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Vettezuki
03-18-2014, 01:17 PM
Will be hyrbrid with a combined HP of around 800. . . It's getting to be more like a hyper car for a fraction of the price. Of course a fraction of the price still means starting at over $100k.

blackax
03-18-2014, 04:47 PM
Will be hyrbrid with a combined HP of around 800. . . It's getting to be more like a hyper car for a fraction of the price. Of course a fraction of the price still means starting at over $100k.

I don't think Nissan has the hybrid chops to take on something like that. I think it just needs to add lightness. But i'm not a R35 guy so....

Damian
03-18-2014, 08:43 PM
The pics I've seen so far look pretty bad ass.

Vettezuki
03-18-2014, 10:00 PM
I don't think Nissan has the hybrid chops to take on something like that. I think it just needs to add lightness. But i'm not a R35 guy so....

It's not going to get much if any lighter because of the basic engineering direction they've gone with the platform separate from major breakthroughs in materials. They've also proven they don't really need to. They've also demonstrated substantial engineering chops,and for that matter keep in mind they're affiliated with, among others, the Hitachi industrial group. Could be a car with Porsche 918 level tech and performance for like ZR1, ACR type money. We'll see, still a little ways out.

blackax
03-19-2014, 12:48 AM
well the weight difference between the r35 and the 911 (991) is over 700 pounds. To me that is a lot of weight that can be lost.

Vettezuki
03-19-2014, 02:00 AM
well the weight difference between the r35 and the 911 (991) is over 700 pounds. To me that is a lot of weight that can be lost.

Curb weight to curb weight, GT-R to Turbo Porsche is only about 300lbs difference. The original R35 design brief was specifically targeting the Turbo Porsche, so that's comparing Apples to Apples.

Even the fully loaded Track Edition GT-R is about $65k less. Hell, even the coming Nismo GT-R is *only* going to be about $150k, $30k less than the Turbo Porsche, and damn near $100k less than a GT2 or F458.

The next gen is supposed to be around $120k base and 800HP with a Kers system. Dafuq! That's insane value.

Damian
03-19-2014, 10:34 AM
You have to keep in mind that the GTR can also carry 4 people and a bunch of crap in the trunk.

BADDASSC6
03-19-2014, 12:06 PM
I'm a diehard GTR hater, but it's going to be a beast. It's also going to be heavier than the current model. I predict straightened performance like the new nismo. The depends on how much and how sticky rubber use. The current model uses very sticky rubber for a street car. At its new price point they will probably op for sport cups.

Vettezuki
03-19-2014, 02:36 PM
I'm a diehard GTR hater, but it's going to be a beast. It's also going to be heavier than the current model. I predict straightened performance like the new nismo. The depends on how much and how sticky rubber use. The current model uses very sticky rubber for a street car. At its new price point they will probably op for sport cups.

I was too. But it's really grown on me over the years. Would love to drive one someday just see what it's like if nothing else. I can't even imagine what a thoroughly sorted 800HP AWD car with sticky rubber would be like.

Damian, I know it has back seats, but it's 2+2, *maybe* kids but that's about all. It is however a perfectly reliable all weather DD.

Damian
03-19-2014, 10:34 PM
It may be a 2+2, but thats still way more space than a Porsche has, and even a Vette, and the 458................

Vettezuki
03-20-2014, 01:16 AM
It may be a 2+2, but thats still way more space than a Porsche has, and even a Vette, and the 458................

I think the Turbo Porsche is vaguely similar, but otherwise, true enough.

enkeivette
04-15-2014, 03:05 PM
I was at a Nissan dealer a few weeks ago, and I asked the manager what a ballpark monthly payment would be on the GTR. He tells me $12,000 a month. I said $1,200? No, $12,000... Fuckin moron.

BADDASSC6
04-15-2014, 04:49 PM
They are the second lowest life form after autozone employees in the automotive world.

enkeivette
04-15-2014, 07:59 PM
They are the second lowest life form after autozone employees in the automotive world.

:lmfao:

Whats with the hatred of Autozone employees? Bad experience? Im fairly certain I got one fired before

Vettezuki
04-15-2014, 11:44 PM
I was at a Nissan dealer a few weeks ago, and I asked the manager what a ballpark monthly payment would be on the GTR. He tells me $12,000 a month. I said $1,200? No, $12,000... Fuckin moron.

No. But think mortgage/rent payment, ballpark $1,500/month. Then you have not so cheap insurance. Obviously it depends on down payment, but if you can only get five year terms with moderate rates and DP, that's about what you're looking at.

Aston Martin used to offer their own financing for like 12 years that made them relatively more affordable for upper middle class types at least.

BADDASSC6
04-16-2014, 06:53 AM
You can get financing up to 8 years at certain banks. The problem is that interest rates shoot up at those long terms so it's super stupid.