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BlacknBoostn
07-06-2009, 09:50 PM
http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f41/couple-pictures-vanquished-mustang-521930/
lookit those freakin tires in the back... nice build i :surrender:
enkeivette
07-06-2009, 10:05 PM
Eh. There's enough potential to overpower that chassis by just modifying a Ford V8, don't see the point to this. I like upgraded powerplants, but not if the car doesn't need it. This is just for show. No one sat down and said "ok, I only have 60K to spend, what's the best way to make my pony fast?"
Vettezuki
07-06-2009, 10:21 PM
Eh. There's enough potential to overpower that chassis by just modifying a Ford V8, don't see the point to this. I like upgraded powerplants, but not if the car doesn't need it. This is just for show. No one sat down and said "ok, I only have 60K to spend, what's the best way to make my pony fast?"
It's a poor man's Aston Martin, or tribute. Why get caught up with just rational thinking about mechanical details? That's not a very interesting way to go through life. :smack: The guy had an idea and went and realized it. Good for him. :drink:
enkeivette
07-06-2009, 11:00 PM
I'm all for a refined engine, but behind a cheap plastic Ford dash? And with fat heavy pig like Mustang handling? Don't see the appeal.
SeanPlunk
07-06-2009, 11:08 PM
I'm all for a refined engine, but behind a cheap plastic Ford dash? And with fat heavy pig like Mustang handling? Don't see the appeal.
Mustangs rule, and that car is cool :bigthumbsup:
Vettezuki
07-07-2009, 12:43 AM
I'm also curious how the heck they sourced a Vanquish motor?
enkeivette
07-07-2009, 02:10 AM
Mustangs rule, and that car is cool :bigthumbsup:
Mustangs are cool, so are Camaros. But they're both cheap heavy pigs compared to high end Euro sports cars.
Drive an M3 or an RX7 then get back in your Cobra, you'll feel like a big fat American gas waster.
Vettezuki
07-07-2009, 03:27 AM
Mustangs are cool, so are Camaros. But they're both cheap heavy pigs compared to high end Euro sports cars.
Drive an M3 or an RX7 then get back in your Cobra, you'll feel like a big fat American gas waster.
Sean's point: Mustangs are cool!
My Point: I admire anybody who comes up with something they want to do and then does it . . . especially if a bit quirky.
Your Point: What's the point?
enkeivette
07-07-2009, 12:07 PM
I imagine that an Aston Martin engine would hold more value than that Mustang. If he's not building a smoothly refined handling machine (which would be hard to do with a 4500lb car) I don't see the point to spending that much money on a smoothly refined powerplant. He could make as much power with a pulley and a tune like Sean did. No it won't sing like a V12, but in a Mustang, who cares?
My point: Don't see the justification for the cost.
If he had a spare one laying around in his garage, that he was unable to e-bay for religious reasons, then yeah... maybe.
BlacknBoostn
07-07-2009, 01:27 PM
hell why's it even matter, it's a cool idea and he had the money for it! I think it's awesome.
if i wanted to spend 30k doing some kind of ridiculous swap just for kicks and can afford it why not?
maybe there is no justification for you... this bloke thought it'd be a good idea and obviously makes enough money to do it.
Vettezuki
07-07-2009, 01:46 PM
hell why's it even matter, it's a cool idea and he had the money for it! I think it's awesome.
if i wanted to spend 30k doing some kind of ridiculous swap just for kicks and can afford it why not?
maybe there is no justification for you... this bloke thought it'd be a good idea and obviously makes enough money to do it.
Other than your mysterious use of the word "bloke", I basically agree. Enkei is a big fat meanie.
SeanPlunk
07-07-2009, 02:09 PM
hell why's it even matter, it's a cool idea and he had the money for it! I think it's awesome.
if i wanted to spend 30k doing some kind of ridiculous swap just for kicks and can afford it why not?
maybe there is no justification for you... this bloke thought it'd be a good idea and obviously makes enough money to do it.
I agree as well. It wouldn't be 1st idea for a swap, but it's cool anyway.
BlacknBoostn
07-07-2009, 02:17 PM
Other than your mysterious use of the word "bloke", I basically agree. Enkei is a big fat meanie.
bloke, chap, chappie, amigo, hombre, dude, guy, gent, gentleman... which would u prefer? It's all the bloody same to me... :sm_laughing:
Lol all seriousness aside I knew a guy who swapped an h22 honda prelude motor into an acura integra gsr (a fantastic platform in and of itself), and made it a mid engine rwd car. ridiculous by your standards right Enkei...? however... fine craftsmanship and a sleeper to boot. Why did he do it? cause it'd be cool, he could afford it, and noone else had done it. isn't that part of what modifying is all about? Sure, I could buy an M3 if I had the money, it'd be a great platform. or even an RX7 IMO an even better platform. maybe not to you, but I see the option for extreme customization. I always that modifying was about making something that is original and unique, let alone fast.
one more example is Vettzuki's vette. why not just buy a c5? or a z06? he put the motor in something different and exciting thus completing the cycle of modification and customization. Vettezuki, i :hail: you.
This guy/bloke with the vanquished mustang? FTW. A true visionary with a greater realization for going outside the box and doing something no one thought could or should be done.
Do I hear a "hear hear" ???
Vettezuki
07-07-2009, 02:21 PM
bloke, chap, chappie, amigo, hombre, dude, guy, gent, gentleman... which would u prefer? It's all the bloody same to me... :sm_laughing:
Lol all seriousness aside I knew a guy who swapped an h22 honda prelude motor into an acura integra gsr (a fantastic platform in and of itself), and made it a mid engine rwd car. ridiculous by your standards right Enkei...? however... fine craftsmanship and a sleeper to boot. Why did he do it? cause it'd be cool, he could afford it, and noone else had done it. isn't that part of what modifying is all about? Sure, I could buy an M3 if I had the money, it'd be a great platform. or even an RX7 IMO an even better platform. maybe not to you, but I see the option for extreme customization. I always that modifying was about making something that is original and unique, let alone fast.
one more example is Vettzuki's vette. why not just buy a c5? or a z06? he put the motor in something different and exciting thus completing the cycle of modification and customization. Vettezuki, i :hail: you.
This guy/bloke with the vanquished mustang? FTW. A true visionary with a greater realization for going outside the box and doing something no one thought could or should be done.
Do I hear a "hear hear" ???
Jolly good lad.
BlacknBoostn
07-07-2009, 02:28 PM
*patiently awaits for Enkei's comeback*
BRUTAL64
07-07-2009, 03:07 PM
bloke, chap, chappie, amigo, hombre, dude, guy, gent, gentleman... which would u prefer? It's all the bloody same to me... :sm_laughing:
Lol all seriousness aside I knew a guy who swapped an h22 honda prelude motor into an acura integra gsr (a fantastic platform in and of itself), and made it a mid engine rwd car. ridiculous by your standards right Enkei...? however... fine craftsmanship and a sleeper to boot. Why did he do it? cause it'd be cool, he could afford it, and noone else had done it. isn't that part of what modifying is all about? Sure, I could buy an M3 if I had the money, it'd be a great platform. or even an RX7 IMO an even better platform. maybe not to you, but I see the option for extreme customization. I always that modifying was about making something that is original and unique, let alone fast.
one more example is Vettzuki's vette. why not just buy a c5? or a z06? he put the motor in something different and exciting thus completing the cycle of modification and customization. Vettezuki, i :hail: you.
This guy/bloke with the vanquished mustang? FTW. A true visionary with a greater realization for going outside the box and doing something no one thought could or should be done.
Do I hear a "hear hear" ???
In my High School Auto Voc class, one of the guys took a VW BUS and shortened it and put a 289 mid ships inside. Why......cause he could.:judge:
BlacknBoostn
07-07-2009, 03:30 PM
In my High School Auto Voc class, one of the guys took a VW BUS and shortened it and put a 289 mid ships inside. Why......cause he could.:judge:
YES haha very nice :bigthumbsup:
Leedom
07-07-2009, 05:38 PM
I would love to have a V12 in my stang. That would be fun. I think the front end is ugly though. Maybe it is the first part of the build for that car but I would like to see more body and suspension mods.
enkeivette
07-07-2009, 06:01 PM
hell why's it even matter, it's a cool idea and he had the money for it! I think it's awesome.
if i wanted to spend 30k doing some kind of ridiculous swap just for kicks and can afford it why not?
maybe there is no justification for you... this bloke thought it'd be a good idea and obviously makes enough money to do it.
Why does it matter? Read my earlier posts, they are very explanatory.
Lol all seriousness aside I knew a guy who swapped an h22 honda prelude motor into an acura integra gsr (a fantastic platform in and of itself), and made it a mid engine rwd car. ridiculous by your standards right Enkei...?
Not at all, unless he paid some shop 50K for the fab work to do it. But if he did it in his driveway, rad. Cheap motor in a cheap car with some ingenuity, putting down some respectable performance... Good for him.
one more example is Vettzuki's vette. why not just buy a c5? or a z06? he put the motor in something different and exciting thus completing the cycle of modification and customization. Vettezuki, i :hail: you.
Zuki's Vette is not a good comparison. An LS1 is one of, if not the most affordable and reliable source for hot rod power. You're comparing filet mignon to a burger. They both provide ample protein, but you can't buy a steak at Carls Jr for 99 cents. Zuki's rod makes a whole hell of a lot of sense, and many other LS1 C3ers seem to agree.
Do I hear a "hear hear" ???
No.
BlacknBoostn
07-07-2009, 07:37 PM
Why does it matter? Read my earlier posts, they are very explanatory.
Not at all, unless he paid some shop 50K for the fab work to do it. But if he did it in his driveway, rad. Cheap motor in a cheap car with some ingenuity, putting down some respectable performance... Good for him.
Zuki's Vette is not a good comparison. An LS1 is one of, if not the most affordable and reliable source for hot rod power. You're comparing filet mignon to a burger. They both provide ample protein, but you can't buy a steak at Carls Jr for 99 cents. Zuki's rod makes a whole hell of a lot of sense, and many other LS1 C3ers seem to agree.
Yes you're absolutely right and I concede my argument.
As far as Vettezuki's vette goes, it's still a prime example of customization although it does make perfect sense and I wasn't arguing that particular fact... simply that its custom.
So why not an expensive motor in a cheap car then? Cheap + Cheap equals good, Expensive + Cheap equals better then right? If you want to compare relatively speaking... a b18c5 into a 1990 integra... 5-6k for motor.... 500 bucks for the car. that relative enough to you? 15k car + 60k motor or however much? Pretty similar.
and he did do it in a shop... just by himself and friends however.
You're entitled to your opinions... I just think they're wrong. My only real point I guess is... wait for it... wait for it... THERE'S NO POINT TO THIS AT ALL EXCEPT THAT IT'S AWESOME. The End.
:drink:
Vettezuki
07-08-2009, 01:42 AM
enkei, allow me to posit the following query.
What about an exotic mill in a C3? Something like this AM V12, or a Lambo V10, etc.
BADDASSC6
07-08-2009, 08:18 AM
Austin Martin is owned by ford and that V12 was originally a Ford concept car motor that didn't make it into production until AM used it. I like the build. Looks clean with the exception the the AM side vents.
You could put an exotic motor in a C3, but unlike the current Mustang line-up Corvettes actually have motors that are worth a shit:pot_stir:.
Remember if you can't make a strong motor then just through some aftermarket rods and pistons in it then blow it:thumbs_up:.
enkeivette
07-08-2009, 11:31 AM
Sure, if you can score one dirt cheap. I'd throw a 4 rotor in my Vette if it was more cost effective than a blown V8.
But I doubt this guy found a V12 relatively cheap. I guess it's a little cooler knowing that it is a Ford concept motor. Btw, if this were something more exotic like a GTM, then I could see more of a justification.
Who cares what I think though, I'm sick of typing, I'm over this topic.
Vettezuki
07-08-2009, 11:35 AM
Austin Martin is owned by ford and that V12 was originally a Ford concept car motor that didn't make it into production until AM used it. I like the build. Looks clean with the exception the the AM side vents.
You could put an exotic motor in a C3, but unlike the current Mustang line-up Corvettes actually have motors that are worth a shit:pot_stir:.
Remember if you can't make a strong motor then just through some aftermarket rods and pistons in it then blow it:thumbs_up:.
Just FYI, AM is no longer owned by Ford. Your point remains.
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