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SeanPlunk
07-03-2009, 12:07 AM
The Ford Falcon F6 310. Such a gorgeous car:

http://www.zcars.com.au/images/fpv-falcon-f6-3101.jpg

Oh, and check out this torque curve :hail:

http://wheelsmag.com.au/wheels/wheelsed.nsf/e4708d9b1feab2d7ca256c59000e7e17/4e7d4dbf015e8dc2ca2574480047ef57/Body/19.A6?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg

Vettezuki
07-03-2009, 12:33 AM
Is that a production car?

Leedom
07-03-2009, 01:53 AM
Can you say flat?! I would assume that car is an Aussie productions model. I like it!

BRUTAL64
07-03-2009, 09:32 AM
Not bad for a FOUR door.:p

SeanPlunk
07-03-2009, 10:11 AM
Is that a production car?

Yes. It's kind of like the Australian version of SVT. I think they call it FPV (Ford Performance Vehicles).

enkeivette
07-04-2009, 04:53 AM
:popcorn:

joedls
07-04-2009, 09:48 AM
Oh, and check out this torque curve :hail:

http://wheelsmag.com.au/wheels/wheelsed.nsf/e4708d9b1feab2d7ca256c59000e7e17/4e7d4dbf015e8dc2ca2574480047ef57/Body/19.A6?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg


That dyno graph is made up. There is no way that is making over 550 Lb-ft of torque and just over 300 HP at 5200 RPM. That is an impossibility, considering HP is just a calculation. Torque is what is actually measured. (Torque X RPM)/5252 = HP.

SeanPlunk
07-04-2009, 11:19 AM
That dyno graph is made up. There is no way that is making over 550 Lb-ft of torque and just over 300 HP at 5200 RPM. That is an impossibility, considering HP is just a calculation. Torque is what is actually measured. (Torque X RPM)/5252 = HP.

The lines do appear to cross at 5250 and that dyno graph is in metric units. I think the torque would convert to approx. 405 ft/lb and the hp would convert to 416.

joedls
07-04-2009, 03:35 PM
The lines do appear to cross at 5250 and that dyno graph is in metric units. I think the torque would convert to approx. 405 ft/lb and the hp would convert to 416.


Yeah, I saw they crossed at the right place. The numbers just didn't make sense. I guess it makes more sense with the metric units (I haven't done the math), but I still think that flat torque line is BS. I've never seen a real graph look like that.

Leedom
07-04-2009, 03:50 PM
http://www.fpv.com.au/fpv-range/f6/overview.aspx

SeanPlunk
07-06-2009, 11:35 PM
Stock time slip for an XR6 (not even the F6 310) - damn impressive:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/fkregan/time.jpg

12.59@112mph with a 2.04 60ft.

BADDASSC6
07-06-2009, 11:40 PM
I call bullshit on the Dymmoc chart and the timeslip. Also I've never seen any type of measured output draw absolutely straight lines.

SeanPlunk
07-06-2009, 11:47 PM
I call bullshit on the Dymmoc chart and the timeslip. Also I've never seen any type of measured output draw absolutely straight lines.

Yeah, you're right on. It's basically just the dyno sheet Ford released at the announcement. Here is the same sheet for the new Taurus SHO, see any similarities?

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/2010-mustang/61143d1234391631-2010-taurus-sho-w-tt-v6-2010_ford_taurus_sho_ecoboost_power-curve.jpg

The times the guys are running in mildly modded Falcon's is impressive though. They run easy low 12's with mild mods and seem to be able to run 11's relatively easily.

Vettezuki
07-06-2009, 11:58 PM
I call bullshit on the Dymmoc chart and the timeslip. Also I've never seen any type of measured output draw absolutely straight lines.

Maybe just and overly aggressive smoothing function for the graphic display. :huh:

SoCalC55
07-07-2009, 12:12 AM
agreed, sweet car... Ford needs to take quite a few non US cars and bring them over here *cough*Focus RS

Not bad for a FOUR door.:p
:tantrum:

BRUTAL64
07-07-2009, 09:35 AM
:tantrum:

Of course I didn't mean anything about your vehicle. Your vehicle is one of best looking being a four door or not.:thumbs_up:

SeanPlunk
07-07-2009, 10:23 AM
Of course I didn't mean anything about your vehicle. Your vehicle is one of best looking being a four door or not.:thumbs_up:

Speaking of 4 doors, I've decided I want one of these eventually:

http://www.sgangafamily.com/images/McKell-R1-10.jpg

A Mitsubishi Galant VR4. They have AWD and are powered by the good old 4G63T engine :hail:

BRUTAL64
07-07-2009, 11:04 AM
Sean:
I'm speechless.

SoCalC55
07-07-2009, 11:50 AM
ONLY is it comes with that bad ass travel storage thingy

...I think driving your DD beater has skewed your mind :sm_laughing:

SeanPlunk
07-07-2009, 12:15 PM
ONLY is it comes with that bad ass travel storage thingy

...I think driving your DD beater has skewed your mind :sm_laughing:

Nah, you can pick them up for like $4500 and how awesome would it be to have a low 12 second beater car? How pissed off would you be if I beat you in a race in one of those :laugh:

Vettezuki
07-07-2009, 12:34 PM
Speaking of 4 doors, I've decided I want one of these eventually:

. . .

A Mitsubishi Galant VR4. They have AWD and are powered by the good old 4G63T engine :hail:

Death Cult has a friend who turned one of these into a psyco-sleeper.

BRUTAL64
07-07-2009, 01:20 PM
Nah, you can pick them up for like $4500 and how awesome would it be to have a low 12 second beater car? How pissed off would you be if I beat you in a race in one of those :laugh:

Would you be driving????:smack:

SeanPlunk
07-07-2009, 01:47 PM
Would you be driving????:smack:

I'm hoping the AWD would take my driving somewhat out of the equation :sm_laughing:

BlacknBoostn
07-07-2009, 02:38 PM
i'm gonna run against you when my trans and clutch is dealt with... grrrr

vroom vroom :sm_up_there:

BRUTAL64
07-07-2009, 03:11 PM
I'm hoping the AWD would take my driving somewhat out of the equation :sm_laughing:


Actually I meant; he would be really pissed if you were driving. :drink:

shutter
09-10-2009, 09:46 PM
hmmm...looks interesting, but im pissed about the taurus sho...its got a decent engine, but its WAY too heavy.

SeanPlunk
09-10-2009, 10:52 PM
hmmm...looks interesting, but im pissed about the taurus sho...its got a decent engine, but its WAY too heavy.

Agreed, 4300lbs is a lot :fatnana:

shutter
09-10-2009, 11:28 PM
i was all excited when i saw the commercial, and then when I went online to check the stats, i was really let down lol

SeanPlunk
09-10-2009, 11:31 PM
i was all excited when i saw the commercial, and then when I went online to check the stats, i was really let down lol

I talked to an insider Ford guy on another site and he says the same Ecoboost engine with AWD could be done in a Fusion. He said he didn't see it happening soon though because it would steal sales away from the SHO :rant:

enkeivette
09-11-2009, 01:21 AM
The Ford Falcon F6 310. Such a gorgeous car:

http://www.zcars.com.au/images/fpv-falcon-f6-3101.jpg

Oh, and check out this torque curve :hail:

http://wheelsmag.com.au/wheels/wheelsed.nsf/e4708d9b1feab2d7ca256c59000e7e17/4e7d4dbf015e8dc2ca2574480047ef57/Body/19.A6?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg

I wonder how far Ford had to reach up its ass to pull out that graph.

Vettezuki
09-11-2009, 01:38 AM
. . . He said he didn't see it happening soon though because it would steal sales away from the SHO :rant:

That's totally sensible though. And thank god somebody is thinking about how to actually generate a profit and enable economies of scale.

shutter
09-11-2009, 10:57 AM
I talked to an insider Ford guy on another site and he says the same Ecoboost engine with AWD could be done in a Fusion. He said he didn't see it happening soon though because it would steal sales away from the SHO :rant:


thats so lame...they would have a killer car on their hands if they had made the fusion sho instead.

BRUTAL64
09-11-2009, 11:16 AM
Agreed, 4300lbs is a lot :fatnana:

My 70 T-bird is 4500 lbs shipping weight and it's got a WAY BIGGER engine.:judge: