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BRUTAL64
06-19-2009, 12:17 PM
Ok guys, I'm going to start building my new "REAL" engine. I'm wondering if anyone knows of a GOOD machine shop here or close to Huntington Beach?


Here's what I have to work with:

A stock bore 400 4 bolt block.
A stock bore L82 4 bolt 350 block high tin and nickel block with high nickel main caps.
A two bolt .030 454 block ( possible 496 ) with NO heads.

This will be the REAL engine. I will do everything correctly. :thumbs_up:

It will be faster than BEN and SEAN's vehicles.:smack:


Depending on what I build- the SB will have AFR heads. The Big Block would have China heads.;)


Possible cubic inches:
SB
377--this is what I'm leaning towards
406--this would be the cheapest
415
427
434

BB
496-this is if I go Street Rat crazy:laugh:

First I need a GOOD machine shop here close to me.:thumbs_up:


No, I don't do 383's. That is a poor bore and stoke combo. Also the main bores are TOO SMALL for a 3.75 crank.

To make REAL "NA" horse power you need at least a 4.125 bore.

If I do use the 4.00 inch bore block I'd probably build a 302 or 327 to take advantage of the small 4 inch bore.

94cobra69ss396
06-19-2009, 12:32 PM
I know Santa Ana Speed has a machine shop but I don't know how good they are. They machined a 22R head for my Toyota truck once and did a good job. I had my work done for the 454 at Speed-O-Motive and would recommend them but they are not close to Huntington Beach. However, they do great work.

94cobra69ss396
06-19-2009, 12:34 PM
Is this just going to be a cruiser or are you actually going to race the Vette? I like the 377 too. I'd stick with the one of the small blocks in the Vette.

joedls
06-19-2009, 12:35 PM
I know a guy in Mission Viejo. He will absolutely do the job right, but he takes forever.

BRUTAL64
06-19-2009, 12:35 PM
I know Santa Ana Speed has a machine shop but I don't know how good they are. They machined a 22R head for my Toyota truck once and did a good job. I had my work done for the 454 at Speed-O-Motive and would recommend them but they are not close to Huntington Beach. However, they do great work.

Yes Speed-O-Motive is a great shop. Used them and Engine Dynamics for 15 years.

I want (sound like a woman here) a shop close. So I can double check EVERYTHING they do.

I know of a good head shop in GG--Flow Tech.

But I'm going with NEW heads.

:bigthumbsup:

BRUTAL64
06-19-2009, 12:45 PM
Is this just going to be a cruiser or are you actually going to race the Vette? I like the 377 too. I'd stick with the one of the small blocks in the Vette.

If I go back to racing the bitch, I'm going to have to do something with the diff. That 8.2 isn't worth a shit for over 450 hp.


I have 8.8 FORD IRS sitting on Darlene's drive way.:nuts:


Any of the SBs I build will be over 500 hp and close to or over 500 ft lbs.


The Big Block 496 would be over 600hp EASY.

BRUTAL64
06-19-2009, 12:51 PM
I know a guy in Mission Viejo. He will absolutely do the job right, but he takes forever.

Shit, that is kinda far. But, since you like him I will keep him in mind.:drink:

Vettezuki
06-19-2009, 01:39 PM
Talk to Troy at Ford Performance Solutions (http://www.f-p-s.com/) in Anaheim.

BRUTAL64
06-19-2009, 01:47 PM
Talk to Troy at Ford Performance Solutions (http://www.f-p-s.com/) in Anaheim.

Talk to a FORD guy about machining a Chevy block. I'd be too embarassed.:o

Vettezuki
06-19-2009, 02:07 PM
Talk to a FORD guy about machining a Chevy block. I'd be too embarassed.:o

They're shop is full service. I've bought various stuff my LS there. They have their own Ford and Chevy high nickel blocks, etc. They'll be doing the balancing and cutting on RX-Snake, and I'll use them when the time comes to build up my LS motor . . . to put you in your place. :nutkick:

BRUTAL64
06-19-2009, 03:21 PM
They're shop is full service. I've bought various stuff my LS there. They have their own Ford and Chevy high nickel blocks, etc. They'll be doing the balancing and cutting on RX-Snake, and I'll use them when the time comes to build up my LS motor . . . to put you in your place. :nutkick:

Let the HP wars begin-:getdown: Ok, so this will be old school Glenn against--Rock Star Ben.:drink:

Alright I'll check it out. I don't want any excuses from you when I kick your ass. I can say I got my machine work from the same place you did.:rolling:


Still kinda far away.

But, do you anyone with a truck that I use to get the block there?

I want something closer so I can go bug them everyday. But, it can be a back up.:judge:

joedls
06-19-2009, 04:02 PM
But, do you anyone with a truck that I use to get the block there?



I know someone, but it may cost you. :thumbs_up:

BRUTAL64
06-19-2009, 04:16 PM
I know someone, but it may cost you. :thumbs_up:

I don't kiss on the first date.:smack:

Vettezuki
06-19-2009, 04:17 PM
Let the HP wars begin-:getdown: Ok, so this will be old school Glenn against--Rock Star Ben.:drink:

Alright I'll check it out. I don't want any excuses from you when I kick your ass. I can say I got my machine work from the same place you did.:rolling:


Still kinda far away.

But, do you anyone with a truck that I use to get the block there?

I want something closer so I can go bug them everyday. But, it can be a back up.:judge:

I won't be building anything for quite a while I think. I have a truck.

BRUTAL64
06-19-2009, 04:39 PM
I won't be building anything for quite a while I think. I have a truck.

As soon as I get my check and decide which way I'm going engine size, I'm going to start mine. So all I have to do is beat the current LS motor. Hell, that should not........................................... :drink:



You know I'm kidding right??????:sm_laughing:

Vettezuki
06-19-2009, 04:51 PM
As soon as I get my check and decide which way I'm going engine size, I'm going to start mine. So all I have to do is beat the current LS motor. Hell, that should not........................................... :drink:



You know I'm kidding right??????:sm_laughing:

Well, I might do little things like LTs and a retune, which should put me at about 430WHP (rough, but fair guess). To be comparable you would only need roughly 500BHP.

Check? You mean a $250 stimulus check. :smack:

BRUTAL64
06-19-2009, 05:04 PM
Well, I might do little things like LTs and a retune, which should put me at about 430WHP (rough, but fair guess). To be comparable you would only need roughly 500BHP.

Check? You mean a $250 stimulus check. :smack:

I can do 500 hp with a 400 SBC in my sleep--Yea,in my dreams.


No I was talking T-Bird check.:thumbs_up:


I going to get the block done with part of that. That's why I have to decide on the cubic inches.

I can do the 400 block for either the 377 or 404 (.020 over) or 406 (.030 over):pot_stir:.

heypal
06-19-2009, 11:31 PM
I know Santa Ana Speed has a machine shop but I don't know how good they are. They machined a 22R head for my Toyota truck once and did a good job. I had my work done for the 454 at Speed-O-Motive and would recommend them but they are not close to Huntington Beach. However, they do great work.

If you go to santa ana speed talk to mike tell him Jerry with the turbo Impala sent you...not sure if they still use the machine shop anymore but worth a shot.

BRUTAL64
06-20-2009, 12:02 PM
If you go to santa ana speed talk to mike tell him Jerry with the turbo Impala sent you...not sure if they still use the machine shop anymore but worth a shot.

Well, you did beat Pony Boy in a race.:laugh: Did you use Santa Ana Speed for your machine work?:drink:

BRUTAL64
06-22-2009, 03:16 PM
This is all you guys have?? :censored:

Vettezuki
06-22-2009, 03:51 PM
This is all you guys have?? :censored:

My brother mentioned one in Norco (our hometown) that was supposedly very good and affordable. You willing to go that far? I can ask him more and see if there still around.

BRUTAL64
06-22-2009, 04:02 PM
My brother mentioned one in Norco (our hometown) that was supposedly very good and affordable. You willing to go that far? I can ask him more and see if there still around.

Yea, ask him. Machining has to to right. IF I have too, I will drive a distance. :bigthumbsup:

heypal
06-23-2009, 12:32 AM
Well, you did beat Pony Boy in a race.:laugh: Did you use Santa Ana Speed for your machine work?:drink:

Pony boy??? and no I didn't use them for my machining work so I can't tell you how they are I just saw someone dropped their name and I have a friend that works there so yeah.

BRUTAL64
06-23-2009, 04:12 PM
Pony boy??? and no I didn't use them for my machining work so I can't tell you how they are I just saw someone dropped their name and I have a friend that works there so yeah.

Pony Boy---07 White Mustang CS-- Big guy that walks with a limp.:p

heypal
06-23-2009, 09:39 PM
Oh yeah I remember now yeah he got drug 3-4 times we raced the last time he got me by like a car or 2 cause I was heat soaked and the transmission was pissed as all hell at me. We where going to go like 5 times but the first time he noobed up and he heard me boostbraking and he took off. didn't even wait for the honks lol.