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Vettezuki
05-09-2013, 04:21 PM
Mmm, I like it, but can't help but think design is getting sort of homogenized towards a kind of European aesthetic. :huh:

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/2015-ford-mustang-rendered-detailed-future-cars

Damian
05-09-2013, 05:44 PM
I love it.

Leedom
05-10-2013, 10:06 AM
I like it but the company does seem to be going more sports car looking than muscle car looking.

Shaolin Crane
05-10-2013, 11:32 AM
uh,. no.

enkeivette
05-10-2013, 11:37 AM
I like it

Leedom
05-10-2013, 02:20 PM
uh,. no.

Overall I like the design, I do not know if it is the right one for a Mustang or not.

Vettezuki
05-10-2013, 02:30 PM
http://media.caranddriver.com/images/12q4/477962/2015-ford-mustang-artists-rendering-photo-481617-s-520x318.jpg


2015 Baracuda

http://media.caranddriver.com/images/media/510773/srt-barracuda-updated-inline-photo-514514-s-original.jpg

I think the Cuda maintains some unrefined American-ness, but the Stang is getting pretty Euro looking. Not a judgement, just an observation.

BRUTAL64
05-10-2013, 02:36 PM
http://media.caranddriver.com/images/12q4/477962/2015-ford-mustang-artists-rendering-photo-481617-s-520x318.jpg


2015 Baracuda

http://media.caranddriver.com/images/media/510773/srt-barracuda-updated-inline-photo-514514-s-original.jpg

I think the Cuda maintains some unrefined American-ness, but the Stang is getting pretty Euro looking. Not a judgement, just an observation.

Since when are you not judgmental ......:judge:

94cobra69ss396
05-10-2013, 03:46 PM
I like it but not as a Mustang. Maybe call it something like a Daytona?

http://motoburg.com/images/shelby-cobra-daytona-03.jpg

GHOST
05-10-2013, 03:46 PM
I like it especially if they go with the cobra/gt500 and do a twin turbo 5.0

enkeivette
05-10-2013, 03:47 PM
Cuda looks like a Stingray 3

enkeivette
05-10-2013, 03:50 PM
Look at how much of a turn the charger and challenger took. Cars get sleeker as time goes on, its the nature of the industry. They need to stay with the times to get business.

Ron, have you seen the Chevy Malibu? Hahahaha

enkeivette
05-10-2013, 03:51 PM
I like it especially if they go with the cobra/gt500 and do a twin turbo 5.0

That would be supercar power.

94cobra69ss396
05-10-2013, 04:00 PM
How about the 1968 Nova compared to the 1988 Nova. Sometimes they need to just stick to what worked. If they want to make a drastic change give it a new name.

1968 Nova
http://image.popularhotrodding.com/f/31720284+w750+st0/1001phr_91_o+1968_chevy_camaro+1972_chevy_nova.jpg

1988 Nova
http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/chevrolet-nova-42.jpg

BRUTAL64
05-10-2013, 04:36 PM
How about the 1968 Nova compared to the 1988 Nova. Sometimes they need to just stick to what worked. If they want to make a drastic change give it a new name.

1968 Nova
http://image.popularhotrodding.com/f/31720284+w750+st0/1001phr_91_o+1968_chevy_camaro+1972_chevy_nova.jpg

1988 Nova
http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/chevrolet-nova-42.jpg

Yes...the 1988 Nova was a great looking car.....:rolling::rolling:

Vettezuki
05-10-2013, 07:55 PM
Good call with the Daytona idea. And yes, something smaller, lighter, multi-link, that design and TT 5.0 fo $60k or so would be way fing cool, probably start taking from the Vette.

enkeivette
05-10-2013, 11:14 PM
I cant believe in the last 60 years Ford hasnt tried to compete with the Vette in the consumer market.

That reminds me, the new Vette is the 60th anniversary car

Vettezuki
05-11-2013, 12:14 AM
I cant believe in the last 60 years Ford hasnt tried to compete with the Vette in the consumer market.

That reminds me, the new Vette is the 60th anniversary car

If I'm not mistaken they considered it early on with the T-Bird, then took the cruiser direction.

Other than that there is the GT of course, but mostly they just have focused on their massive Mustang market with all of its numerous forks and levels. Probably smart overall, but I wished they would have done something more too.

enkeivette
05-11-2013, 02:47 AM
The GT has never been on the same playing field as the Vette. The supercharged IRS Cobras got closer, but theyre still a four seater and they still look like a Mustang.

GT goes after the Camaro market. Its kind of funny that there is so much shit talking that goes on between those two cars, since theyre fundamentally the same. Its like Accord owners talking shit on Maxima owners.

Vettezuki
05-11-2013, 03:07 AM
The GT has never been on the same playing field as the Vette. The supercharged IRS Cobras got closer, but theyre still a four seater and they still look like a Mustang.

GT goes after the Camaro market. Its kind of funny that there is so much shit talking that goes on between those two cars, since theyre fundamentally the same. Its like Accord owners talking shit on Maxima owners.

I'm talking about Ford's estimate of Return on Investment, not what the cars are. These corporations are about making scratch, and with some amazing exceptions from history, that is mostly a bean counters game now. I'd love to see Ford step into the ring against Vette with a high mid-end two seater, but there's already Vette (and Viper). It's an enormous risk without terribly clear potential gain. If I were on the Board at Ford, I wouldn't advise it at scale, but might entertain some kind of relationship with a boutique maker like Panoz. Sort of how Shelby was in the 60s, but modernized.

enkeivette
05-11-2013, 10:57 AM
Do they own panoz? They own aston martin dont they? A stripped down Aston Martin would be a good contender

Vettezuki
05-11-2013, 01:47 PM
Do they own panoz? They own aston martin dont they? A stripped down Aston Martin would be a good contender

TMK, they never owned Panoz they no longer own AM.

But you sure can see the AM design influence through designs like this and many other makes. I want to say it was Fisker (the designer) who started going down this line with AM years ago, but that's a fuzzy memory, so don't hold me to it.

Shaolin Crane
05-12-2013, 05:50 PM
IIRC Ford lost their ass with the GT and GTX1 did they not?

enkeivette
05-12-2013, 06:28 PM
Thats ten times as expensive as a Vette. Different market.

Shaolin Crane
05-12-2013, 07:04 PM
Thats ten times as expensive as a Vette. Different market.

Uhm, no.

enkeivette
05-13-2013, 02:04 AM
860

Oh I see, when I googled it I saw the price for some special GTX1. Nevertheless, the Ford GT does not meet the base Vette price point. Thus, irrelevant example. So suck a dick. Ha

Vettezuki
05-13-2013, 02:25 AM
The GT was a halo car, I don't think they ever intended to make money on it really. They only made 4,000~ and the platform other than the base engine was all special this and that AFIK. Great car that has really held its value.

Shaolin Crane
05-13-2013, 03:25 AM
860

Oh I see, when I googled it I saw the price for some special GTX1. Nevertheless, the Ford GT does not meet the base Vette price point. Thus, irrelevant example. So suck a dick. Ha

Pretty sure they only made one GTX1 and Jeremy clarkson bought it

enkeivette
05-13-2013, 01:58 PM
Remember the Shelby GR1? Id take one of those over a Viper or a Vette easy

Leedom
05-13-2013, 04:53 PM
Forgot about that bad boy. That was sexy!

http://img2.netcarshow.com/Ford-Shelby_GR1_Concept_2005_800x600_wallpaper_01.jpg

Vettezuki
05-13-2013, 05:07 PM
That was going to be a NA V10 AIR.

Shaolin Crane
05-13-2013, 10:23 PM
Looks like a daytona

kdracer73
05-13-2013, 10:30 PM
My first thought was Austin Martin copy..