Gay!

[enkeivette]

My intake manifold gasket is leaking again. :mad: :barf: Wasn't even my fault this time, it's not leaking on either side of the gasket, it's seaping right through the gasket itself! Guess I didn't cover it with enough silicone. Still, what a cheap ass gasket to allow coolant to seap right through it. Think I'm going to demand a refund. So gay. Oh well, hopefully my $180 MLS HGs are okay.

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[Vettezuki]

My intake manifold gasket is leaking again. :mad: :barf: Wasn't even my fault this time, it's not leaking on either side of the gasket, it's seaping right through the gasket itself! Guess I didn't cover it with enough silicone. Still, what a cheap ass gasket to allow coolant to seap right through it. Think I'm going to demand a refund. So gay. Oh well, hopefully my $180 MLS HGs are okay.



I don't think I've actually ever even heard of that before. I hope they don't make rubbers too.

[enkeivette]

I don't think I've actually ever even heard of that before. I hope they don't make rubbers too.

Haha, that's for sure. Just my luck, I find new problems with the most famously modded engine in the world! It's funny because it sealed last time, probably because last time I coated the gasket entirely with silicone adhesive.

So the FelPro gasket was too soft and pushed out under boost, the MrGasket gasket was hard enough to maintain shape but it's flippin porous!

Next time I'll be trying an Edelbrock steel core laminate composite gasket. I might even decide to put it on dry this time. I hope that none of that coolant leaked into the lifter valley, that would make 14 wasted quarts of new Mobil 1 in the last month.

[Vettezuki]

Haha, that's for sure. Just my luck, I find new problems with the most famously modded engine in the world! It's funny because it sealed last time, probably because last time I coated the gasket entirely with silicone adhesive.

So the FelPro gasket was too soft and pushed out under boost, the MrGasket gasket was hard enough to maintain shape but it's flippin porous!

Next time I'll be trying an Edelbrock steel core laminate composite gasket. I might even decide to put it on dry this time. I hope that none of that coolant leaked into the lifter valley, that would make 14 wasted quarts of new Mobil 1 in the last month.

Cometic?

[enkeivette]

Do you mean their intake gaskets? They're made of aramid fiber, looks too porous for my liking. Mr Gasket has an expensive set that's rubber coated, I'm going to call and ask about those too.

[enkeivette]

Went with the Edelbrock one. Any votes as to whether I should put it on dry or not?

[BRUTAL64]

Went with the Edelbrock one. Any votes as to whether I should put it on dry or not?

Use sealer on the water ports and china wall gaskets ONLY. ;)--is this too Gay also?

[enkeivette]

Use sealer on the water ports and china wall gaskets ONLY. ;)--is this too Gay also?

China wall gaskets? I have problems not using sealer around the ports, the gaskets tend to push out under boost. But this new gasket is a steel core so I might try putting it on dry, it shouldn't be able to bend in the middle.

[BRUTAL64]

China wall gaskets? I have problems not using sealer around the ports, the gaskets tend to push out under boost. But this new gasket is a steel core so I might try putting it on dry, it shouldn't be able to bend in the middle.


Actually putting sealer on the intake ports could be the reason the gaskets blew out at the port.

China wall gaskets---the intake end gaskets on the front and rear of block.:sm_up_there:

One thing is bothering me here. Why, do you have a seeping gasket? The clamping of the gasket by the intake SHOULD have sealed the port. You MIGHT have another issue here. Hopefully, I'm thinking wrong here and it is just a shitty gasket.

[enkeivette]

Actually putting sealer on the intake ports could be the reason the gaskets blew out at the port.

China wall gaskets---the intake end gaskets on the front and rear of block.:sm_up_there:

One thing is bothering me here. Why, do you have a seeping gasket? The clamping of the gasket by the intake SHOULD have sealed the port. You MIGHT have another issue here. Hopefully, I'm thinking wrong here and it is just a shitty gasket.

Yeah I'm scared too. Thinking that there might be a crack in the cylinder somewhere pressurizing the coolant system. Then again, I only torqued the gasket to 20 ft lbs and it was one of those extra thick ones at .12 versus the usual .06.

The oil still looks clean... Do you think a compression test would tell me anything?

[BRUTAL64]

Yeah I'm scared too. Thinking that there might be a crack in the cylinder somewhere pressurizing the coolant system. Then again, I only torqued the gasket to 20 ft lbs and it was one of those extra thick ones at .12 versus the usual .06.

The oil still looks clean... Do you think a compression test would tell me anything?

No, I'm thinking this way--was your block decked? If so how much? You just took a little more off the heads too, Right?:(

[enkeivette]

Yeah, took .004 off the heads. Block has never been decked to my knowledge. Why? What are you thinking?

And should my overflow tank be... overflowing if the cylinder was leaking pressure?

[BRUTAL64]

Yeah, took .004 off the heads. Block has never been decked to my knowledge. Why? What are you thinking?

And should my overflow tank be... overflowing if the cylinder was leaking pressure?

I'm thinking intake to head aligment. But since it isn't decked there should not be a problem. The heads only got .004 and the intake has never been shaved you should be ok. If you have cylinder pressure leaking into the water then the pressure builds VERY quickly. Could just be shitty gaskets.:huh:

[Vettezuki]

I got a bad feeling . . .:sm_up_there:

[enkeivette]

I got a bad feeling . . .:sm_up_there:

Thanks! :eek:

Well I'm going to try and put 25 ft lbs on them first, remember they are extra thick gaskets. Then I'll try the Edlebrock gaskets. Cross your digits for me.

[BRUTAL64]

Thanks! :eek:

Well I'm going to try and put 25 ft lbs on them first, remember they are extra thick gaskets. Then I'll try the Edlebrock gaskets. Cross your digits for me.



Well, what happened??:huh:

[SeanPlunk]

Yeah, I'm curious too - don't leave us hanging.

[enkeivette]

Going to work on it later today when it's not 220 degrees outside.

[enkeivette]

Brought it up to 23 ft lbs, and it's now sealing. It feels like I'm putting a lot more than 23 ft lbs on otherwise I'd go higher, I don't trust that Craftsman torque wrench on an aluminum head.

I bought one of those stethoscopes to track the tick tick, can't find it. Don't hear anything peculiar holding over the rockers... so? I don't know, guess it's an exhaust leak. Anyone want to come over and lend an ear? I sure as hell can't find where it's coming from. My car is so freaking loud its hard to track one specific noise down.

The car has a rough spot in the low rpm band. I'm worried that it could have to do with the tick, lifter adjustment? HG? Intake leak? But I do have lower compression and a lot more lift, and my fuel level is way low for some reason all of a sudden. :confused: So I'll spend some time tuning it before I draw any radical conclusions.

Another strange thing that I noticed, the idle comes down slowly. It's never done that before. What does that indicate? Anyone know? Glenn? :sm_up_there:

[Vettezuki]

You can have your Torque wrench calibrated. You should also NEVER store it with a torque setting; it should always be 0 lbs when not in use. You may think you're overtorquing, but remember thats a clamping force, if something soft-ish like a gasket is compressing you'll think you're putting in more force than you are.

[BRUTAL64]

Brought it up to 23 ft lbs, and it's now sealing. It feels like I'm putting a lot more than 23 ft lbs on otherwise I'd go higher, I don't trust that Craftsman torque wrench on an aluminum head.

I bought one of those stethoscopes to track the tick tick, can't find it. Don't hear anything peculiar holding over the rockers... so? I don't know, guess it's an exhaust leak. Anyone want to come over and lend an ear? I sure as hell can't find where it's coming from. My car is so freaking loud its hard to track one specific noise down.

The car has a rough spot in the low rpm band. I'm worried that it could have to do with the tick, lifter adjustment? HG? Intake leak? But I do have lower compression and a lot more lift, and my fuel level is way low for some reason all of a sudden. :confused: So I'll spend some time tuning it before I draw any radical conclusions.

Another strange thing that I noticed, the idle comes down slowly. It's never done that before. What does that indicate? Anyone know? Glenn? :sm_up_there:

Fuel level low--in the carb? Adjusting float level doesn't help?

Ticking sound can be many different things. I would need to listen to it. Exhaust leaks -headers- are the most common.


Slow return to idle is usually --1) a vacuum leak 2) the mechanical advance is sticking and not returning to "0" in the dizzy 3) butterflys in carb binding before they close. This is just off the top of my head at this time.:rolleyes:

[BRUTAL64]

You can have your Torque wrench calibrated. You should also NEVER store it with a torque setting; it should always be 0 lbs when not in use. You may think you're overtorquing, but remember thats a clamping force, if something soft-ish like a gasket is compressing you'll think you're putting in more force than you are.



True, so true.:thumbs_up:

[enkeivette]

Haven't tried to adjust the float level yet, I was just mentioning that I noticed it was low yesterday. Which is strange since it wasn't low before.

[BRUTAL64]

Haven't tried to adjust the float level yet, I was just mentioning that I noticed it was low yesterday. Which is strange since it wasn't low before.



Adjust the float level, it MAY help with the idle.:)