whats up from the East Coast...

[nordy racer]

Hey guys.. i havent posted on here in a long time.. been really busy with the job, move and getting t he girlfriend to move from LA to here.. anyway, some updates on the Mustang..
went racing last night (seecond time this season) after installing a relocation kit for my lower control arms to help with my 60ft.. it did drop it from my normal 1.95's down to 1.85's on all 7 runs, but the track was stall way cold. hopefully i can get up there on a Saturday when they VHT the complete track.. All most a 11 but still not.. the car has a custom sub box installed plus a fat a$$ driver (230lbs weight lol) still cant complain to much for having about 1500 bucks into the car :)


http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/timeslip1202_zps3cec11a8.jpg

[BADDASSC6]

Nice pass. What tire were you running.

[nordy racer]

275 60 15 MT.. thanks

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/photoshoot5_zpsafbefd91.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/photoshoot6_zpsd8ecba37.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/photoshoot1_zps790df6a6.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/photoshoot2_zps7aea0ab7.jpg

[BADDASSC6]

I fucking love it. Give us the rune down on the mods? What gear do you have in the diff? What mods? I am super interested because I want to start modding my 2013 GT.

[94cobra69ss396]

Along with Carlos's questions, what track were the runs made at?

[nordy racer]

thanks guys.. she's a 2012 GT prim with leather and Auto trans.. the only weight drop i have done is the RTS rims which are 17x4 up front and 15x10's on the back.. Mods are 373 gears, Cold Air Intake, off raod H pipe, GT500 muffs, UPR uppper and lower control arms and an ajustable panhard bar. Ford K springs and a TUNE from my friend Greg from RET in Los Angeles. the car dynoed at 388rwhp and 379tq..

i drive the car a lot so i have a aftermarket radio system (8 speakers and 2 subs) with about 1500 watts and two 12in subs in a custom made box.

i moved to the East Coast this pass July back home to Maryland. Over here we have TONS of tracks, so this was from a local track that is about 25 miles away (Cecil County Raceway)..

my next mods are going to be Long Tube headers and a Converter. this should get the car into the low 11's..

[BADDASSC6]

That is a lot of MPH for 388rwhp. Does the panhardbar do anything for launching the car? I always thought they were great at positively locating the axle side to side. Are the k springs softer?

How are you liking Maryland? I grew up in PG County:crutches: (Hyatsville)

[94cobra69ss396]

Cecil County Raceway is at 320ft. elevation.

[nordy racer]

after dropping that car 2.5 inches with the springs the rear was way out. so i had to get the bar to pull it back in, thats all its used for.. No the K springs are about the same feel as the stock one but you are way lower lol. the LCA relocation kit help bring the arms from going UP to back down like it should be..

the hard shifts hard and i think if i get it a little softer on the shifts i should be able to pick up another 1 or 2 mph..

[Shaolin Crane]

That is a lot of MPH for 388rwhp. Does the panhardbar do anything for launching the car? I always thought they were great at positively locating the axle side to side. Are the k springs softer?

How are you liking Maryland? I grew up in PG County:crutches: (Hyatsville)

Panhard bar does absolutely nothing in terms of helping a car launch

[BADDASSC6]

Panhard bar does absolutely nothing in terms of helping a car launch:suicide:

It does nothing but positively locate the axle side to side. The real question which was answered was "why the aftermarket panhard bar?" The question was worded that way not to be rude and also due to the realization that NO ONE knows everything.

[94cobra69ss396]

Panhard bar does absolutely nothing in terms of helping a car launch

Yes it does, it helps the car track straight on launch which can improve your 60ft.

[nordy racer]

Yes it does, it helps the car track straight on launch which can improve your 60ft.

if i didnt have it installed the driver side wheel would be 3 inches in and the other side 3 inches out lol..

[94cobra69ss396]

I hear that look is the latest rage in Japan.

[nordy racer]

i think so, but not over here at the race track..

[Shaolin Crane]

Yes it does, it helps the car track straight on launch which can improve your 60ft.

Nope, does nothing to improve the 60' of a car at all. Tons of stock suspension cars with no panhard bars that pull 1.3x 60'

[Shaolin Crane]

:suicide:

It does nothing but positively locate the axle side to side. The real question which was answered was "why the aftermarket panhard bar?" The question was worded that way not to be rude and also due to the realization that NO ONE knows everything.

You asked the question, I answered. I was not rude, nor were you. Your very first question was does it help with the launch.

He already answered why to the aftermarket and I answered your first question. Pretty simple stuff here, lets not turn this into stangnet.

[nordy racer]

got my 11 sec slip..

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/atcoraceway3241311sec_zpsfa99d730.jpg

[94cobra69ss396]

Congrats.

[Leedom]

Nice, for having relatively few mods to be in the 11s is awesome. I have about the same mods comparatively and still am in the 13s.

[Vettezuki]

Nice, for having relatively few mods to be in the 11s is awesome. I have about the same mods comparatively and still am in the 13s.

Depending on the car, Fontucky might be good for up to solid 1 second handicap compared to some of the great east coast tracks. Gotta hand it to the GT-R on this one, that goddamn thing was running 11.8 at 118 bone stock no matter where the fuck it was.

[nordy racer]

Nice, for having relatively few mods to be in the 11s is awesome. I have about the same mods comparatively and still am in the 13s.

BUT i have the new motor and that thing is a BEAST.. i cant wait to get some real pwer adders on it to make it into the 10's or quicker.

[enkeivette]

Panhard bar does absolutely nothing in terms of helping a car launch

Maybe not practically in your experience, but less energy pushing sideways could only result in more energy pushing forwards.

[nordy racer]

just did a weight loss program on the front end of the mustang.. havent been to the track yet.

[nordy racer]

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/4413097_zps8cb2eba3.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/4413096_zpse3f416b2.jpg

also adjusted the controls a little bit more.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/4413099_zpsf656532d.jpg

[enkeivette]

You ditched the sway bar?? You only want to drag with that thing Im guessing?

[joedls]

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/4413097_zps8cb2eba3.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/4413096_zpse3f416b2.jpg

also adjusted the controls a little bit more.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/4413099_zpsf656532d.jpg

I gained 2/10 in the 1/8 mile just from that sway bar delete and skinniest on the front.

Where did you have that control arm before? The middle hole?

[nordy racer]

I gained 2/10 in the 1/8 mile just from that sway bar delete and skinniest on the front.

Where did you have that control arm before? The middle hole?

i hope i can get that in the 1/4.. i'm all ready running skinnies on all my other runs.. as for the LCA im going to play with the different locations.. the shop is saying the lowest hole is for mosly stick cars for high RPM lanuches and middle is for Autos.. we will see..

[nordy racer]

You ditched the sway bar?? You only want to drag with that thing Im guessing?

i drive with skinnies on the front all the tire so i'm not racing any turns anytime soon lol.

[joedls]

Below is the best explanation I have seen for the proper adjustment of our lower control arms:

The lower the rear of the arm drops, the "shorter" the IC (instant center) point is, in comparison to the originating point (rear axle)

The "shorter" the instant center, the harder the suspension applies pressure, which drives the tires to the pavement promoting traction.

The location of the instant center in comparison to the neutral line, determines the "anti-squat" percentage. The higher the IC point is, the higher the body of the car will be upon launch, hence, anti-squat.

If the IC point is under the neutral line, the car will squat. The lower the IC point is, the more the car will squat.

So what does this do? Imagine your car tires being your feet, and the body of the car, being your actual body (ankles to head)

Stand straight up on a scale, squat quickly and what does the weight on the scale read? It drops, right?

Now, squat on a scale, shoot up really quick. What does the weight do, raise? So more pressure is applied on the scale when raising.

Moral of the story: If the rear of the car squats, the suspension is compressing too rapidly to hold enough pressure to maintain traction upon launch.

Keep in mind, if the car raises too much (LCA too low) in the rear....it will fall fast and can/will unload the suspension which causes spinning....

You have to find the fine line.

Here are some pictures I drew up years ago.

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/joedls/InstantCenter_zps876a6642.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/joedls/PercentageofRise_zps3d2f2193.jpghttp://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/joedls/NeutralLine_zps5c8c5f99.jpghttp://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/joedls/AntiSquat_zpsf171e3b3.jpg

[BADDASSC6]

Thanks for sharing that explanation. I found it very helpful.

[enkeivette]

I understood the squatting explanation, and it makes sense that control arms will cause the suspension to compress more slowly, but I dont understand the geometry behind it.

For a drag car do you want longer or shorter control arms? Or is it not that simple?

[joedls]

Not that simple.

[nordy racer]

did another new best time..car went 11.89 at 118mph.. 60ft times are still soft at 1.82..i'm thinking thats going to be it for my 60fts until i get a stall convertor in the car.. photo below is of that best ET and 60ft time..

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/MustangMIR1189117mph_zps14414caa.jpg

[joedls]

did another new best time..car went 11.89 at 118mph.. 60ft times are still soft at 1.82..i'm thinking thats going to be it for my 60fts until i get a stall convertor in the car.. photo below is of that best ET and 60ft time..

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/MustangMIR1189117mph_zps14414caa.jpg

Congrats! Did you run your LCA in the bottom hole? Or did you try the middle one, too?

[nordy racer]

they are set in the middle.. i dont think the lowe hole would be right for a auto car.. all the stick cars use the bottom hole because of the clutch dropping launches..

[nordy racer]

next round of upgrades coming soon :)

[nordy racer]

1pc alum driveshaft and safety loop order : Check
Circle D 3c 3500-3700 stall converter order: Check
Boss Intake and throttle body order: Look for a used one right now..


hoping to get about 2 tenths out of the driveshaft and about 4 tenths out of the converter.. that SHOULD get me into 11.2's or so.. then if i can get a intake that should push me to 10's.. we will see :)

[Vettezuki]

You have to cage-up at that track at < 11.5?

[nordy racer]

i have 8 1/4 tracks i can run at within driving distance.. if one kicks me out i'll just drive to the others lol..

[94cobra69ss396]

Why do you think the driveshaft will pick up 2 tenths?

[fiveohwblow]

Why do you think the driveshaft will pick up 2 tenths?

Because of rotating mass reduction....? Idk but AM claims it so I'm sure that is where others obtain their info

24 lbs lighter

http://www.americanmuscle.com/2011-gt-aluminum-driveshaft.html

Faster Quarters. Shed up to 20 pounds of rotating mass and shave up to 0.2 seconds off your quarter mile time with this lightweight aluminum driveshaft.

[94cobra69ss396]

I can't see it picking up that much. Nordy, you need to test it by itself. Make a pass with the stock driveshaft and then swap it out for the new one and make another pass.

[enkeivette]

Doubt it will make even a tenth of a difference, thats ricer math right there. Maybe that with an aluminum flywheel youd see a tenth.

[Vettezuki]

Well nordy. There's your h/w. Measure before and after with just the d/s difference. Sadly I'm going to have to agree. I don't see .2 coming from a 24lb lighter d/s. But I'd be happily proven wrong.

[nordy racer]

i'm not the one coming up with numbers.. the stock two piece steel is over 40 lbs. this 1 piece will come in at 18lbs.. on thee new 5.0 when you free up that type of rotating wight it picks up alot..

[nordy racer]

Doubt it will make even a tenth of a difference, thats ricer math right there. Maybe that with an aluminum flywheel youd see a tenth.

are you calling me a internet ricer racer?? trust me i have more passing going down the 1/4 then you would EVER wish for. trust me, i under stand how ALL my cars perform on the track.

[BRUTAL64]

are you calling me a internet ricer racer?? trust me i have more passing going down the 1/4 then you would EVER wish for. trust me, i under stand how ALL my cars perform on the track.

:popcorn:......................:cartman:

[joedls]

i'm not the one coming up with numbers.. the stock two piece steel is over 40 lbs. this 1 piece will come in at 18lbs.. on thee new 5.0 when you free up that type of rotating wight it picks up alot..

It's not just the weight. It's also the sloppiness of the 2 piece driveshaft. Still not sure of .2 difference.

I believe NHRA has changed its rules on cages for newer cars. Not sure of the cut-off now, but I think it depends on whether they consider your car "stock" or not.

[Shaolin Crane]

My buddy Kevin before he died was running his auto 07 GT to an 8.41 at irwindale. His only mod was the driveshaft. These were identical times to Vanessa's car that had intake, headers, exhaust and a tune. He died before he had a chance to install everything but i would have bet that he could have broke 7's

[Shaolin Crane]

It's not just the weight. It's also the sloppiness of the 2 piece driveshaft. Still not sure of .2 difference.

I believe NHRA has changed its rules on cages for newer cars. Not sure of the cut-off now, but I think it depends on whether they consider your car "stock" or not.

I remember something along those lines too, I remember seeing some fast ford gt's that had no cages in them.

[enkeivette]

are you calling me a internet ricer racer?? trust me i have more passing going down the 1/4 then you would EVER wish for. trust me, i under stand how ALL my cars perform on the track.

Didnt mean to insult you, or make you feel as if your expensive driveshaft purchase isnt justified, but your track experience is irrelevant to the physics of your driveshaft.

Too much talk on all ends, just let us know if you manage to knock two tenths off. I hope you do, any one willing to drive without a sway bar and skinny tires deserves to run tens. :bigthumbsup:

[enkeivette]

On a separate note, Im surprised Ford went with a steel DS on the GT, considering they put an aluminum DS on the Ranger.

[BRUTAL64]

On a separate note, Im surprised Ford went with a steel DS on the GT, considering they put an aluminum DS on the Ranger.

Ok, I hit my head again...what do you mean by DS...:sm_up_there:

I'm assuming you mean Drive Shaft?

[enkeivette]

When are you going to the strip again?

[nordy racer]

no problem man.. i have driven some crazy set ups over the years.. my Grand National i was running Skinnes with no swaybar and full slicks at 8psi at over 145mph pass the traps, now that was a hand full.. Ths setup drives like a Caddy compair to that..

my buick in the background launch at 24psi boost off the transbrake.. (top end i would run 40psi)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/my%20buick%20Grand%20National/WOWmyGN.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/my%20buick%20Grand%20National/WOWmyGN.jpg.html)

here is one of my slower runs out at Bakersfield when it was 90*. the car had been 9.30's at 149mph.(click the photo for video)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/my%20buick%20Grand%20National/th_DVD.jpg (http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/my%20buick%20Grand%20National/DVD.mp4)

[enkeivette]

Yessir, DS = Drive Shaft, TC = Transfer Case or Torque Converter, AFR = Air to Fuel Ratio or ADAM FUCKING RULES. Just for future reference.

AFR

[enkeivette]

no problem man.. i have driven some crazy set ups over the years.. my Grand National i was running Skinnes with no swaybar and full slicks at 8psi at over 145mph pass the traps, now that was a hand full.. Ths setup drives like a Caddy compair to that..

my buick in the background launch at 24psi boost off the transbrake.. (top end i would run 40psi)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/my%20buick%20Grand%20National/WOWmyGN.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/my%20buick%20Grand%20National/WOWmyGN.jpg.html)

here is one of my slower runs out at Bakersfield when it was 90*..(click the photo for video)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/my%20buick%20Grand%20National/th_DVD.jpg (http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/my%20buick%20Grand%20National/DVD.mp4)

Shit balls, I love GNs. Brian Plunk kinda made me want one. Id almost want to go V8 though just to piss the Buick guys off, haha

[nordy racer]

When are you going to the strip again?

i moved to Maryland this pass summer. so i run at my home track of Cecil county raceway and also MIR.. i have Capital raceway, Atco NJ, Englishtown, Maplegrove PA and 75-80 raceway to name some aound my way..

[nordy racer]

Shit balls, I love GNs. Brian Plunk kinda made me want one. Id almost want to go V8 though just to piss the Buick guys off, haha

my GN was the 5th quickest in the country with the stock 2 bolt main block.. i also drove the GN on the street too :)

out at speedworld in AZ for a buick race..
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/my%20buick%20Grand%20National/IMGP1018.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/my%20buick%20Grand%20National/IMGP1018.jpg.html)

he was impressed with my setup and ET.. i couldnt believe i impressed Jay Leno lol
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/my%20buick%20Grand%20National/carshow059.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/my%20buick%20Grand%20National/carshow059.jpg.html)

[BRUTAL64]

Yessir, DS = Drive Shaft, TC = Transfer Case or Torque Converter, AFR = Air to Fuel Ratio or ADAM FUCKING RULES. Just for future reference.

AFR

:sm_up_there:

[nordy racer]

just came in today.. the weight is 16lbs and i cant wait to get that 45lb stocker off the car this week :)

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/picstwo051_zpsd913dfc0.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/picstwo051_zpsd913dfc0.jpg.html)

[94cobra69ss396]

Change it at the track, I want to see if it makes a difference.

[BRUTAL64]

Change it at the track, I want to see if it makes a difference.

Since the rotating mas is reduced it should increase (slightly)acceleration...ah but in real world...who knows.:ugh:

[fiveohwblow]

Change it at the track, I want to see if it makes a difference.

Who brings their garage to the track? I wouldn't just to substantiate other people's claims but that's just me.

[nordy racer]

lmao i;m not changing it at the track.. i need to set the pinon angle on the rearend so thats a NO at the track..

[94cobra69ss396]

Who brings their garage to the track? I wouldn't just to substantiate other people's claims but that's just me.

I do. I bring a tool box, jack, etc. I drive the Chevelle over to the track on street tires, change to my slicks and then change them back for the drive home. I've changed carbs at the track, plugs, wires, distributors all to see the difference.

[nordy racer]

I do. I bring a tool box, jack, etc. I drive the Chevelle over to the track on street tires, change to my slicks and then change them back for the drive home. I've changed carbs at the track, plugs, wires, distributors all to see the difference.

i guess thats why newer cars are nice. i drive my car to the track (sometimes over 110 miles one way) on DR's and skinnies and run my times. i datalog my ECM on my PC and drive home. gone are the days of me working on a car at the track :drive:

[94cobra69ss396]

I haven't had to do anything to the Chevelle besides change the tires for about the past 7 years now. I have DOT legal street slicks for the Cobra so when I take it I don't do anything.

At least you're just changing it so you'll know if you go any faster.

[nordy racer]

yea thats why i want to get it on before i install that converter.. that thing is going to make a BIG difference in the car.. i'm just hoping that my local track is prep as good as MIR that day of my launch photo..

[94cobra69ss396]

Let us know how it goes. I'm really interested to see if it makes any difference. Not that it matters for me because I installed an aluminum driveshaft when I went with the T56 but I want to see how close you come to their claim of 2 tenths.

[nordy racer]

i hope to get some good runs in before the temps get warmer over here..

[nordy racer]

new part arrived :).. man the way they ship it, i can see why it cost 1100 bucks lol.. now i cant wait to get it installed.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/photo321051_zps74c898bc.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/photo321051_zps74c898bc.jpg.html)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/photo321052_zps6678a8ea.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/photo321052_zps6678a8ea.jpg.html)

[enkeivette]

I hope that was an exaggeration :o

[nordy racer]

the box it came in was amazing. all pads in different layers. i almost put the padding into my pillow because it was so soft..

[nordy racer]

OK guys here we go..

i run up to Cecil Raceway at 630pm.. its 78* and the Humidity is high because a storm was right around the corner.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/carrun001_zps90de999d.png (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/carrun001_zps90de999d.png.html)

i run the car right off the street not letting it cool down but did lower the DR's down to about 19psi..

the car ran (12.17 at 114.8)

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/carrun002_zpse55fd18b.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/carrun002_zpse55fd18b.jpg.html)

NOW if you look at the two passes below, my best runs at Cecil are those. these passes were on different days in March with temps in the high 40's with only about 50% humidity

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/carrun003_zpsc293dc87.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/carrun003_zpsc293dc87.jpg.html)

the car drop almost 3mph and 1tenth between the days in question.. SO
after looking at my 60ft times and taking into effect the weather for tonight i think the DS did pick up a little ET..

what do you guys think? If the temps were cooler and the MPH was back in the 116 to 117mph the ET would have dropped. the 60ft times are really close (1.89 tonight to a 1.86 and 1.87 other runs).
my best time was at MIR so im not even looking at that ET, that is why i went back to my local track. i really wont know the true increase until the temps are back down, but by then i will have the converter installed.

thanks guys
Mike

[enkeivette]

Nice man! Glad it made a difference. 11s are juuust around the corner. Higher stall should get you there!

[nordy racer]

Nice man! Glad it made a difference. 11s are juuust around the corner. Higher stall should get you there!

Thanks but the car has been 11.8s all ready out here. I'm hoping with the stall and DS to get into the 11.3s.

[enkeivette]

Oh, it looked like you were saying you went from 12.2 to 12.1 after the DS

[nordy racer]

went racing last night because we had freaky cold temps in the 50s and my best ETs at my home track were in the same temps.. please see below..

let me start by posting two time slips from a couple of runs months before with the stock DS installed.. the temps and track were also most the same as last night.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/carrun003_zpsc293dc87.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/carrun003_zpsc293dc87.jpg.html)


now these runs below are from last night. my 60fts are the same and you can see an increase in ET and MPH because of the DS.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/picscar006_zps94ed952a.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/picscar006_zps94ed952a.jpg.html)


so the drive shift DID pick up 1 tenth and about 2mph in the 1/4 mile.. well worth it for $599 and knowning that i have a great 1 piece DS under my car.

[enkeivette]

A consistent 1/10th is still pretty good! Congrats! Those are some impressive numbers

[nordy racer]

order some headers from Lethal over the holidays and they just arrived..
i want to get one more thing before i install the headers & converter..

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/72613047_zpse9e33ee2.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/72613047_zpse9e33ee2.jpg.html)

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/72613046_zps9f7f0a02.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/72613046_zps9f7f0a02.jpg.html)

[94cobra69ss396]

Nice, what one more thing do you want to get?

[nordy racer]

maybe a 150 shot of NOS..

[enkeivette]

maybe a 150 shot of NOS..

Fuck. Yeah.

[BADDASSC6]

Fuck yeah!

[fiveohwblow]

Fuck. Yeah?

[Vettezuki]

Dafuq?

[nordy racer]

fuck yeah lol..

[94cobra69ss396]

Are you going to use a wet or dry kit?

[BADDASSC6]

Dry! Wet kits scare me on FI cars.

[nordy racer]

i'm not a NOS guy, so i'm looking into kits.. all my other cars have been FI's..

[Vettezuki]

Dry! Wet kits scare me on FI cars.

Don't know anything about this really, but can't you get a NOS manifold so you add the NOS and extra fuel AFTER the compressor? :huh: Or is that not your concern?

[BADDASSC6]

Wet kits will have a Nitrous nozzle and a fuel nozzle somewhere on the intake track. Dry kits will have a nitrous nozzle in the intake track or in the runners (direct port), but they supply the added fuel via the fuel injectors. Dry kits often require a fuel system upgrade since most modified cars don't have an excess capability of fuel delivery. Wet kits are cheaper, but fuel can pool up in the intake track. This is why you see videos of nitrous backfires where the car erupts in flames. Spend the money on a dry kit with a good controller and all the safety micro switches. The peace of mind alone is worth it.

[nordy racer]

car went 11.58 at 117.4 mph with 1.61 60ft this past wednesday night.. once i learn more with the car launching, i think i can get mid 1.5's and a 11.4's time slip.. not bad for a car that has a race weight of 3820lbs...

also the car picked up 23rwhp and 27tq with the long tube install :)

[Vettezuki]

Did you end up with a NOS kit yet, or is that all NA motor, suspension, tires still?

[nordy racer]

Did you end up with a NOS kit yet, or is that all NA motor, suspension, tires still?

still N/A.. no power adders yet.

converter, long tubes, 373, CAI, UCA & LCA, alum Driveshift, tune on 93 gas.. skinnies and DR's on RTS wheels.

[Vettezuki]

still N/A.. no power adders yet.

converter, long tubes, 373, CAI, UCA & LCA, alum Driveshift, tune on 93 gas.. skinnies and DR's on RTS wheels.

And a really good track. ;)

But yeah, that's impressive. :creepy_thumbsup:

[nordy racer]

thanks.. well the track wasnt really prep but its a great track.. my tuner looked at my logs and saw that we could get another 200rpms out of my shift points and we are going to lock the converter out in 4th to see if that will pick up my MPH..

[BADDASSC6]

Nice run. That MPH is great for the mods listed especially on a automatic car. The ET is also very good for street car with that MPH.

[nordy racer]

thanks.. i was really wanting 119 to 120mph..

[nordy racer]

car went 11.54 at 118 last night with a 1.60ft

[enkeivette]

car went 11.58 at 117.4 mph with 1.61 60ft this past wednesday night.. once i learn more with the car launching, i think i can get mid 1.5's and a 11.4's time slip.. not bad for a car that has a race weight of 3820lbs...

also the car picked up 23rwhp and 27tq with the long tube install :)

Woah, shes a pig. Perform lipo.

[Vettezuki]

car went 11.58 at 117.4 mph with 1.61 60ft this past wednesday night.. once i learn more with the car launching, i think i can get mid 1.5's and a 11.4's time slip.. not bad for a car that has a race weight of 3820lbs...

also the car picked up 23rwhp and 27tq with the long tube install :)

BTW, what is your current RWHP/TQ?

I'm at around 3,300 race weight (full tank of gas plus me). 390RWHP/360RWTQ and the best on DRs I could ever get was 12.6@113 with like a 2.0 60' . Admittedly that was at Fontana on a street legal day, kinda hot, not terribly well prepped track. Now that's in a C3 Vette, hard sprung IRS and a manual transmission. I'm not a great drag driver, but I'm not terrible either. Just curious where you're at for power:weight relative to the impressive times you're getting.

[enkeivette]

Those new GTs are fast and soft. They go in stock form, no complaining.

[nordy racer]

BTW, what is your current RWHP/TQ?

I'm at around 3,300 race weight (full tank of gas plus me). 390RWHP/360RWTQ and the best on DRs I could ever get was 12.6@113 with like a 2.0 60' . Admittedly that was at Fontana on a street legal day, kinda hot, not terribly well prepped track. Now that's in a C3 Vette, hard sprung IRS and a manual transmission. I'm not a great drag driver, but I'm not terrible either. Just curious where you're at for power:weight relative to the impressive times you're getting.

413rwhp and 388rwtq.. my weight with me and a half of tank is 3820 (true scale weight) my 60ft time was 1.60ft. launch the car off the two step at 3200rpm..

[Vettezuki]

413rwhp and 388rwtq.. my weight with me and a half of tank is 3820 (true scale weight) my 60ft time was 1.60ft. launch the car off the two step at 3200rpm..

Damn. I'm considerably lighter, somewhat less powerful, but not a lot, but much slower. I wonder what the most important differences are. I think it's probably track>suspension>transmission>driver.

I put track number 1, because my 60' was a little better at Irwindale, but my 1/8 ET and trap were considerably higher.

Suspension next for planting and best 60'. Basically I have an ancient IRS and it's hard to boot. Ok for farting around, not so good for drag or best track performance (does weird shit under hard braking).

Transmission next as I'm undoubtedly losing more time between shifts, but not as much time as above factors.

Driver is not particularly relevant here as the car and everything else are so different. Maybe you or Ron could get an extra <=.2~ at Fontana based on way more experience, but I'd be surprised if it was much more than that.

:huh:

[enkeivette]

Damn. I'm considerably lighter, somewhat less powerful, but not a lot, but much slower. I wonder what the most important differences are. I think it's probably track>suspension>transmission>driver.

I put track number 1, because my 60' was a little better at Irwindale, but my 1/8 ET and trap were considerably higher.

Suspension next for planting and best 60'. Basically I have an ancient IRS and it's hard to boot. Ok for farting around, not so good for drag or best track performance (does weird shit under hard braking).

Transmission next as I'm undoubtedly losing more time between shifts, but not as much time as above factors.

Driver is not particularly relevant here as the car and everything else are so different. Maybe you or Ron could get an extra <=.2~ at Fontana based on way more experience, but I'd be surprised if it was much more than that.

:huh:

You have a Corvette with IRS and stiff front suspension. It was designed in the 70s to be Cobra competitive on a road course. Now you've set it up semi-Gymkhana. You want to drag race buy a drag car.

[BADDASSC6]

Damn. I'm considerably lighter, somewhat less powerful, but not a lot, but much slower. I wonder what the most important differences are. I think it's probably track>suspension>transmission>driver.

I put track number 1, because my 60' was a little better at Irwindale, but my 1/8 ET and trap were considerably higher.

Suspension next for planting and best 60'. Basically I have an ancient IRS and it's hard to boot. Ok for farting around, not so good for drag or best track performance (does weird shit under hard braking).

Transmission next as I'm undoubtedly losing more time between shifts, but not as much time as above factors.

Driver is not particularly relevant here as the car and everything else are so different. Maybe you or Ron could get an extra <=.2~ at Fontana based on way more experience, but I'd be surprised if it was much more than that.

:huh:

He has an auto with a torque convertor and he is running MT tires. Huge difference in acceleration in the first 60' and 330'. It the same thing for me in my corvette, all the drag car launch hard on me and it's just a matter if there is enough track to reel them in. He launches as 3200 you launch at 1500? Those are great times an mph because he has the supporting mods. I could resist the 6 speed, but I know I'm going to be leaving some et on the table because of it.

[enkeivette]

He has an auto with a torque convertor and he is running MT tires. Huge difference in acceleration in the first 60' and 330'. It the same thing for me in my corvette, all the drag car launch hard on me and it's just a matter if there is enough track to reel them in. He launches as 3200 you launch at 1500? Those are great times an mph because he has the supporting mods. I could resist the 6 speed, but I know I'm going to be leaving some et on the table because of it.

Thread is messed up, your message looks like a repeat of Bens until I quote it. Same thing happened to me this morning.

[enkeivette]

942943

[enkeivette]

You have a Corvette with IRS and stiff front suspension. It was designed in the 70s to be Cobra competitive on a road course. Now you've set it up semi-Gymkhana. You want to drag race buy a drag car.

...

[Vettezuki]

You have a Corvette with IRS and stiff front suspension. It was designed in the 70s to be Cobra competitive on a road course. Now you've set it up semi-Gymkhana. You want to drag race buy a drag car.

The C3 suspension geometry all originates in the early 60s coming form the C2, from which there isn't a great deal of practical difference. It has a couple known non-trivial problems compared to modern suspensions. But yes, it is far closer to a Gymghana setup than a drag setup.

Carlos, my launch window is extremely narrow. I do have DRs but around 2,200 would be the best I could do, there's just not much weight transfer. Basically outside of getting somewhat lucky, it will either bog or spin, either of which means the best et/trap is already out the window. I think 1.9 60' is my best 60' ever. Usually it's like 2.1 AIR.

[enkeivette]

The C3 suspension geometry all originates in the early 60s coming form the C2, from which there isn't a great deal of practical difference. It has a couple known non-trivial problems compared to modern suspensions. But yes, it is far closer to a Gymghana setup than a drag setup.

Carlos, my launch window is extremely narrow. I do have DRs but around 2,200 would be the best I could do, there's just not much weight transfer. Basically outside of getting somewhat lucky, it will either bog or spin, either of which means the best et/trap is already out the window. I think 1.9 60' is my best 60' ever. Usually it's like 2.1 AIR.

I know, 63-82 is pretty much the same. Notice of errata - 60s

[Shaolin Crane]

Damn. I'm considerably lighter, somewhat less powerful, but not a lot, but much slower. I wonder what the most important differences are. I think it's probably track>suspension>transmission>driver.

I put track number 1, because my 60' was a little better at Irwindale, but my 1/8 ET and trap were considerably higher.

Suspension next for planting and best 60'. Basically I have an ancient IRS and it's hard to boot. Ok for farting around, not so good for drag or best track performance (does weird shit under hard braking).

Transmission next as I'm undoubtedly losing more time between shifts, but not as much time as above factors.

Driver is not particularly relevant here as the car and everything else are so different. Maybe you or Ron could get an extra <=.2~ at Fontana based on way more experience, but I'd be surprised if it was much more than that.

:huh:

Mustangs are better, duh. :pot_stir: <------ (Because without that people might take it the wrong way.)

[enkeivette]

944

[fiveohwblow]

Mustangs are better, duh. :pot_stir:

Now when you say "people" which of those without the amazing gift of discernment are you referencing?

[Shaolin Crane]

Now when you say "people" which of those without the amazing gift of discernment are you referencing?

People

[Shaolin Crane]

944

Poopietalk

[nordy racer]

i went to the track rental at MIR.. i did about 14 runs with my 2012 Auto and was able to get about 5 to 6 runs in the 11.4's and the below was my best run at abotu lunch time heat.. the car weight was 3890 with 3/4 tank of gas in it..


i'm launching off a MSD 2 step box at about 3200rpm.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/1146slip_zpsb7453b3e.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/1146slip_zpsb7453b3e.jpg.html)

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/563185_738528392829711_334294858_n_zps247e4b05.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/563185_738528392829711_334294858_n_zps247e4b05.jpg .html)

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/wheelsup_zps89681bc9.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/wheelsup_zps89681bc9.jpg.html)

link to video below
11.46 @118 - YouTube

[94cobra69ss396]

Congrats man those are great times. I like the pic of the wheel up. That's about how high the Chevelle yanks the wheel.

[nordy racer]

I want to thank Cervinis for selecting my car as their test mule for the newly design cowl hood they did. this hood is their new 3 inch with a newly designed front nose. Their manufacturing and final product is top notch. This hood will be on their web site and other Vendors within the next two weeks.


http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/mustang1_zps48f848ba.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/mustang1_zps48f848ba.jpg.html)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/mustang2_zps4ce780fe.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/mustang2_zps4ce780fe.jpg.html)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/mustang3_zpsa2ff4416.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/mustang3_zpsa2ff4416.jpg.html)

[BADDASSC6]

It looks great.

[94cobra69ss396]

I agree with Carlos. Now the question is do you have plans that require the additional clearance?

[nordy racer]

thanks and the car went 11.44 at 118 before the season closed this year.

Cobra Jet Intake and TB are going in this winter.. going for 10.7s on 93 pump gas.

[joedls]

Badass!

[BADDASSC6]

I was looking at the cobra jet parts too. Right now the vette is eating all my discretionary funds though. Thanks for sharing the build.

[nordy racer]

I was looking at the cobra jet parts too. Right now the vette is eating all my discretionary funds though. Thanks for sharing the build.

parts are arriving.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/1474017_10153475934180463_2015882417_n_zps3190806d .jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/1474017_10153475934180463_2015882417_n_zps3190806d .jpg.html)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/1479832_10153489769595463_1963546830_n_zps537942b8 .jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/1479832_10153489769595463_1963546830_n_zps537942b8 .jpg.html)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/1465049_10153489769405463_1620338168_n_zps561b335a .jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/1465049_10153489769405463_1620338168_n_zps561b335a .jpg.html)

getting ready to order 4.30 gears and Stage 3 Comp cams..

[BADDASSC6]

Man. That is going to make a huge difference. I predict........10.8.

[nordy racer]

i'm hoping for that with a little weight savings i'm going to do to the car.. and after cams are installed it should rock out a 10.5 or quicker on 93 gas..

[BADDASSC6]

Nice, I just ordered the rear control arms and the upper control arm, along with the rear control arm relocation brackets and catalytic delete pipes. I'm trying to get around the same 10.5, but I'm going with forced induction because ti will be a daily driver. The Cervini's hood looks great.

[nordy racer]

went to the track for a rental this pass Friday to test the new set up.. car picked up 4mph and .22 tenths in the 1/4 (fastest was 11.22 at 120.8).. I didn't really like how the 4.30 gears worked out so she is in the shop getting another set of lower gears installed. we are also installed a Pulse Wheel on the crank to help pass the 7700 redline problem. with this part we will be able to tune the car up to 8100rpm :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk3KEomdZ58&sns=fb

[94cobra69ss396]

Nice. What is the issue with the 4.30 gears? By the way you need a higher flash stall.

[nordy racer]

those launches were with my new 5c converter which is at 4300.. I was using the foot brake and E brake at 4000 launch..

I was thinking that staying in 4th would be the best but I don't think it is. once I get this 7700 rpm problem and we can get her up to 8100 I can stay in third gear with 3.31s and its one less gear switch in the 1/4 mile.. also it should increase my MPH another 3 so I should be close to 124 or more.. this SHOULD get me my 10 sec slip before I start in loss some weight from the car. she is still at 3760 with me in it..

Oh and the Motive gears SUCK.. the gear whine is so Freakin bad..

[94cobra69ss396]

It doesn't sound anywhere near that high and with the way you where pushing it in the beams I thought it was much lower. Did your 60ft improve with the 4.30's over the 3.31's?

[BADDASSC6]

Nice! Are you running a 275?

[nordy racer]

It doesn't sound anywhere near that high and with the way you where pushing it in the beams I thought it was much lower. Did your 60ft improve with the 4.30's over the 3.31's?

yup it was up there.. and I went from 373 to 430s and it did a little but not worth the noise.. we will see how the 331 work shortly later this month at the track..

[nordy racer]

yes 275 M&H dr's..

[94cobra69ss396]

I'm surprised that you have noise. I used Motive gears in the front of the Explorer and they didn't wine at all. The only issue I've had is three teeth broke on the ring gear which caused a vibration but that's not the fault of the gear. That's just a given with 4.56 gears and a locker in a Dana 30 with 33's and a 5000lb truck.

What did you set the backlash at? Do they make noise all the time or only on accel or decel?

[nordy racer]

we spent a full day setting the lash.. it is on accel and avg speed. its loud. its all good I really want to try out 3.31's and spin this cars RPM in third gear.. we are thinking it should trap about 124 to 125 with these gears and 8100 red line now.

[Shaolin Crane]

Motive gears are notorious for whining like whores

[94cobra69ss396]

I must have just lucky with mine. I guess I'll look for another brand when I'm able to fix the front end on the Explorer.

[nordy racer]

Motive gears are notorious for whining like whores

the HO's were bad.. I drove the car for a total of about 150 miles to and from the track and that was it. they are coming out right now lol..

[94cobra69ss396]

What brand are the 3.31's.

[nordy racer]

What brand are the 3.31's.

Ford Racing..

[Shaolin Crane]

the HO's were bad.. I drove the car for a total of about 150 miles to and from the track and that was it. they are coming out right now lol..

Did a set of 3.90's and they screamed like a dog box transmission. IIRC it has something to do with how the gears are cut. They eventually stopped screaming after a couple thousand miles, unacceptable.

[Vettezuki]

Did a set of 3.90's and they screamed like a dog box transmission. IIRC it has something to do with how the gears are cut. They eventually stopped screaming after a couple thousand miles, unacceptable.

I wonder what that would be? Maybe just a slightly unfinished edge that gets smoothed off without separating (metal bits are bad mmkay).

[Shaolin Crane]

I wonder what that would be? Maybe just a slightly unfinished edge that gets smoothed off without separating (metal bits are bad mmkay).

Dunno, that's just the word floating around. The faces are the teeth are kinda rough and take time to smooth out as the gears mesh. Or so forums would have you believe, I have never bought another set of motive gears. Stick to good ol' junkyard take outs

[nordy racer]

Did a set of 3.90's and they screamed like a dog box transmission. IIRC it has something to do with how the gears are cut. They eventually stopped screaming after a couple thousand miles, unacceptable.

they got louder after a day of racing because of the launches. I couldn't take it anymore after 3 hr drive.. my Ford Racing gears never made news and I had over 130 runs on the them and 22K miles.

[nordy racer]

new 3.31 ford racing gears should be here this week. New race seats just came in and are now getting suede installed.

[94cobra69ss396]

Nice. When will you be able to run the car with the new gears? On a side note I saw a lot of stock 2013-2014 5.0 Mustangs at Fontana this weekend. They were all running around 111-112mph. I also noticed that most of them had terrible wheel hop.

[nordy racer]

should be at the track in about 2 weeks.. I remember back in the day 111mph lol.. I should be able to pull about 70 more pounds out of the car also with the seats and rear delete kit.

[nordy racer]

track rental is in 2 weeks.. cant wait to see some new times I hope..

[nordy racer]

some pics from today.. hopefully it wont rain tomorrow and I can get some track times..

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/DSC05803_zps9024dff8.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/DSC05803_zps9024dff8.jpg.html)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/DSC05807_zps37e163a3.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/DSC05807_zps37e163a3.jpg.html)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/DSC05810_zpsfde6b82e.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/DSC05810_zpsfde6b82e.jpg.html)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/DSC05819_zpsa725be93.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/DSC05819_zpsa725be93.jpg.html)

[Vettezuki]

That's pretty sick looking. I think that's what the kids say.

[BADDASSC6]

Yup. That's a nice looking ride

[nordy racer]

kids lol.. yup those Vette guys do say that alot..

[nordy racer]

got kicked out of the track before we could really dial in the trans.. heading to a track this month that doesn't really care about cages.. new gears, new shift points take a lot of time to figure out lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAQYp36OudU&feature=youtu.be

[BADDASSC6]

Nice run.

[Vettezuki]

I don't remember if it was asked above, but are you not going to get a cage at any point?

[nordy racer]

maybe later in the summer.. really don't want to..

[nordy racer]

new numbers on E85 corn gas 460hp 397tq.. old number was on 93 pump 442hp and 384tq.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/10252958_10154008891520463_425318276_o_zpsb8c1d6f3 .jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/10252958_10154008891520463_425318276_o_zpsb8c1d6f3 .jpg.html)

[BADDASSC6]

Man. That's a lot for a little NA 5.0.

[enkeivette]

At the wheels?

[94cobra69ss396]

That's almost as much HP as I'm making with my 347 with 10psi. Is that NA?

[nordy racer]

well the quest is completed.. thanks to Adam Browne and his team at Revauto. my 2012 GT 6r80 auto has hit 10's (4 times in a row) today at MIR track rental. it has been a long road to get to this ET. I was running high 11's on May 2013, to running 11.22 on Feb 2014 and now today 10.94 at 123mph.. 

race weight today was 3760 or so with me driving and the car was on E85 pump gas.
Rev Auto Tuned
Cobra Jet Manifold
SuperCobra Jet TB
Rev Auto 5in Cobra Jet CAI
JBA 1-7/8 longtubes
JBA 3in X
GT-500 Mufflers
1 Piece Driveshaft
Circle D 5c
3.31 ford racing gears
rear seat delete and aftermarket front seats.

Jason Miller had the track hooking and people were break parts but I was able to drive about 190 miles round trip and get on avg about 19mpg and keep the car in one piece. cant beat that :)

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/DSC05842_zps82571d53.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/DSC05842_zps82571d53.jpg.html)
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http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/20mpg_zpsaea0caf2.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/20mpg_zpsaea0caf2.jpg.html)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/allslips_zpse9d4564b.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/allslips_zpse9d4564b.jpg.html)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/410sslips_zpscd8b941a.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/410sslips_zpscd8b941a.jpg.html)

[nordy racer]

At the wheels?

yes at the wheel on a 3rd gear pull..

[nordy racer]

That's almost as much HP as I'm making with my 347 with 10psi. Is that NA?

yes all NA with stock cams, heads and motor..

[Vettezuki]

yes all NA with stock cams, heads and motor..

Dafuq! Just intake, tune and exhaust?

[nordy racer]

Dafuq! Just intake, tune and exhaust?

yup :nuts:..

[Vettezuki]

My goal for my OHV 5.7, which I'm not sure I can reach, is 430WHP NA. I'm at 390~ with H&C. Plan is full exhaust (mine is pretty restrictive at the stock manifolds), rockers, lifters and a retune. That would be on 91, but there wouldn't be much left to do NA and stay CA smog compliant for the sniffer.

[nordy racer]

you can get there man.. i'm shooting for mid to low 10's on NA next..

[enkeivette]

Shit balls. Go Ford.

<- Guy's new sig I'm sure.

[nordy racer]

video of runs..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbGN6T3T_nc

[BADDASSC6]

Ben you just need long tube headers and more cam. You can get 460 no problem.

These little 5.0's are sick. I'm basically hoping to get mine to the low tens. I think I did do myself any favors by getting a stick car. That's why I decided to get a big procharger.

[nordy racer]

i'm shooting for low 10's all NA.

[Vettezuki]

Ben you just need long tube headers and more cam. You can get 460 no problem.

These little 5.0's are sick. I'm basically hoping to get mine to the low tens. I think I did do myself any favors by getting a stick car. That's why I decided to get a big procharger.

My cam is the biggest cam (not to be confused with big) that I can have and pass the CA sniffer. Technically I could add a pro-charger (my car is consider an 01 F Body), but I like a good tight NA motor and mid 400s is plenty of power for a 3,000lb street car. I also flirt with the idea of converting the T56 manual to a modern 6-speed auto. But it's all just dreaming at the moment.

Anyway, that Coyote is a serious engine. I like resto-rods obviously. Putting one in a 60s era fastback, etc., would be pretty cool!

[BADDASSC6]

I just need more money and a bigger garage. I would love to have a NA coyote with big cams in a Cobra replica.

[Vettezuki]

I just need more money and a bigger garage. I would love to have a NA coyote with big cams in a Cobra replica.

You could do a kill er job with a FF MK4 for round about $35k~ all in I figure. Less if you worked at it.

[enkeivette]

My friend rented one of those, they are damn fast stock.

[nordy racer]

I just need more money and a bigger garage. I would love to have a NA coyote with big cams in a Cobra replica.

next upgrades are Stage 3 cams, elect water pump, and some more weight loss. those two parts should net me 500rwhp and I could drop another 100lbs from the car.. with those 10.40's shouldn't be a problem.

[BADDASSC6]

Nice. I'm excited to see the results. I can't wait to be done with this vette so I can start installing these parts in my GT. I'm hoping to run that number with a blower and factory manifolds in a stick car. Probably won't happen. Lol.

[nordy racer]

thanks we will see.. im not going to really do anything over the summer with the car other then car shows. winter time she will go under the knife.

[nordy racer]

little star action by my Mustang..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px56QxtKHEg&list=UU6oDFPwm-ePPMb8lmToCcnQ

[94cobra69ss396]

Congrats, that's awesome!

[Leedom]

Pretty awesome. Good luck with getting the record!

[nordy racer]

thanks Guys.. we will see.. got a couple more things to do to the car and we are going to try out some new gas that's on the market now.

[Vettezuki]

New gas?

[nordy racer]

FTW gas (purple)

[94cobra69ss396]

Wow, $165 for a 5 gallon can. At that price it would cost me $990 in fuel to do one track day in the Cobra and $330 to make 4 passes at Fontana in the Chevelle.

[nordy racer]

all you need is 5 gal can.. I can drive my car down to the track and use my fuel pump tune to empty the tank and then fill up with this. this gas will net another 20 to 25rwhp over top the 20 I get off of E85.. we will be dyno tuning this gas and a electric water pump on my car shortly and i'm hoping for 500rwhp over top the 460 its doing now.. all in the new for the NA record.

[94cobra69ss396]

The Chevelle won't run on pump gas and it takes me almost 10 gallons to drive to the track, make 4 passes and drive home. For the Cobra I have to run straight race fuel when I do a track day and in a 20 minute session I go through 7 gallons of fuel.

Good luck, I really hope you get the record!

[nordy racer]

parts are on the car and it should be on the dyno Monday with the FTW gas.. hope to hit up the track Friday night ..

[nordy racer]

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/10699179_10154578871500463_548167448_n_zpsaad5ab58 .jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/10699179_10154578871500463_548167448_n_zpsaad5ab58 .jpg.html)
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[94cobra69ss396]

When do we get the new dyno numbers?

[nordy racer]

as I was leaving he was at 17rwhp over my E85 numbers..

[nordy racer]

The car made 453hp 386tq on e85 and with FTW in the car it made 474hp 404tq car picked up 21hp over reg e85

[94cobra69ss396]

Nice! Are you still planning to run it this Friday?

[nordy racer]

going to test out the shocks on E85 Friday night..

[nordy racer]

a little video..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN9gH1o36LE&list=UUm4Pc4Xk0Qe4M3HMW7hXL_g

[94cobra69ss396]

It sounds great! Good luck with the tuning Friday.

[nordy racer]

It sounds great! Good luck with the tuning Friday.

thanks. we will see.. just running pump E85 tonight.

[94cobra69ss396]

So how did testing go? Did you pick up any 60ft?

[nordy racer]

after about 4 runs in 90% humidity I was able to get the car to launch with a 1.48 60ft and a 10.98 at 125mph. wasn't really trying to run great times due to the weather, but I was happy with the 60ft.. car also wasn't shifting right on the 1-2 again, it was down by 400rpm.

[nordy racer]

went to Cecil and ran some PB times.. the air was great and the track was "some what" hooking. as you can see, the MPH in my quickest run was low. this was due to a MPH timing light problem. I would think that 10.85 pass would have been a 126mph run.. anyway, next season we will have Stage 3 cams and another 70 to 80lbs out of the car. also on the drive home after filling up with 93 and my 93 street tune I got 29mpg :). Thanks again to RevAuto in Baltimore and UPR produces.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/111514car_zpsc7fed502.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/111514car_zpsc7fed502.jpg.html)
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[94cobra69ss396]

Nice. So what are the specs on stage 3 cams?

[nordy racer]

Nice. So what are the specs on stage 3 cams?

they are crazy.. we are also doing some head work.. hoping for 60rwhp or more..

[Vettezuki]

Are you worried about crossing over into a car that's not very street able at some point? Or is the point to build a race car that just happens to be street legal. :judge:

[nordy racer]

Now far from it. This car is a amazing. After that 10.85 run I put 93 gas in the car and my street tune and got 29mpg driving home. Even with those big cams I should be able to pull 25 to 27mpg on the highway and pull 10.4s on race gas. My friend just went 8.98 at 155mph with his wife's daily driver.

[Vettezuki]

That's amazing for mpg, but there's a lot more to a street car regarding NVH, high stall converters aren't that pleasant, etc. It's subjective of course, so some people wouldn't give a damn almost no matter what.

An 8 second DD is incomprehensible! Although the new ZO6 is a 10 second car from the factory on pump gas and street tires, so the whole world is kind of nuts.

[Shaolin Crane]

That's amazing for mpg, but there's a lot more to a street car regarding NVH, high stall converters aren't that pleasant, etc. It's subjective of course, so some people wouldn't give a damn almost no matter what.

An 8 second DD is incomprehensible! Although the new ZO6 is a 10 second car from the factory on pump gas and street tires, so the whole world is kind of nuts.
No shit, as I get older the idea of a street car changes wildly.

[nordy racer]

That's amazing for mpg, but there's a lot more to a street car regarding NVH, high stall converters aren't that pleasant, etc. It's subjective of course, so some people wouldn't give a damn almost no matter what.

An 8 second DD is incomprehensible! Although the new ZO6 is a 10 second car from the factory on pump gas and street tires, so the whole world is kind of nuts.

you haven't driven in a new Mustang with a great tuner tuning the trans. my car drives like stock, you cant even tell that I have a 4300 stall converter.. Still have A/C and cruise control. I drive this car every other day and have driving down as far as 300 miles one way from home without missing a beat.

here is a video of my friends wifes car..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FucWcpcU-ZM&list=UUDxY7yP73nhobjLiUOm8how

[BADDASSC6]

Nice runs man. Nice to see someone out there racing making progress..

[Vettezuki]

Nice runs man. Nice to see someone out there racing making progress..

Do you want to share your feelings with the group? :judge:

[nordy racer]

Do you want to share your feelings with the group? :judge:
is it a sit down with a round table?

[Vettezuki]

is it a sit down with a round table?

Free coffee and doughnuts.

I think Carlos has done a great job of spending a grip of cash on upgrading his C6, but probably hasn't seen as much track time as he'd like.

[nordy racer]

Free coffee and doughnuts.

I think Carlos has done a great job of spending a grip of cash on upgrading his C6, but probably hasn't seen as much track time as he'd like.

damn free stuff and i'm all the way over here..

yes we are VERY lucky to have a ton of strips around here.. i'm even running one more time this Saturday at one of the best track ever MIR..

[BADDASSC6]

The vet has been done for months, but I've been too busy. Too many hour at the job.

[nordy racer]

well I have the record for un open coyote motor for 2011-2014 mustang GT's. sticks and autos.. amazing day today.. I cant believe the car trapped 128mph and that 1.43 60ft was CRAZY.. i'm still on cloud 9..

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/1059s_zps6db6f2bf.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/1059s_zps6db6f2bf.jpg.html)
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[Vettezuki]

That is redonkulous.

What were you running back in the day in your GN? Or was it a TB?

[94cobra69ss396]

Congrats man that's awesome!

[nordy racer]

That is redonkulous.

What were you running back in the day in your GN? Or was it a TB?

thank you, we are really happy to take the record..

I was running 9.50's on a stock block with the GN, 2nd quickest in the Country.. the quickest was my engine builder's car lol..

[Vettezuki]

thank you, we are really happy to take the record..

I was running 9.50's on a stock block with the GN, 2nd quickest in the Country.. the quickest was my engine builder's car lol..

Where would you like to end up with the Mustang?

[nordy racer]

9.99 all motor with a/c and all the normal nice stuff :)

[nordy racer]

Congrats man that's awesome!

thank you man..

[Vettezuki]

9.99 all motor with a/c and all the normal nice stuff :)

What's left, other than cams, to get you that half second?

[nordy racer]

What's left, other than cams, to get you that half second?

another great DA day.. I went from 10.85 to 10.59 because of DA and track prep (and 120lbs lighter).. with Cams and Headers this car will go from 475rwhp right now to north of 540rwhp and we will pull about 80 more pounds out with front brakes and shocks and other little things.. that's how we will get a 9.99 or 10 flat..

[nordy racer]

from my builder:

Congratulations to our customer Mike for running 10.59 withOUT a power adder!!! He currently holds the 2011-2015 bolt-on record (factory transmission)! Congrats!!

http://youtu.be/Z6v5d6P0sHU

[Vettezuki]

That's an actual accomplishment!

[nordy racer]

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cams are in and ready to hit the dyno.. didn't do the heads this time, waiting for next winter.. also had the intake painted :)

[nordy racer]

new numbers.. only installed cams.. NO head work this time around..

93 pump, E85 gas and FTW Purple
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/nordyracer87/mustang/new%20dyno%20numbers_zpsy0vaonla.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/nordyracer87/media/mustang/new%20dyno%20numbers_zpsy0vaonla.jpg.html)

[Vettezuki]

Stock Coyote, race gas tune, cams, intake(?), exhaust(?) gets you to 500RWHP?

[Shaolin Crane]

Stock Coyote, race gas tune, cams, intake(?), exhaust(?) gets you to 500RWHP?

I thought he was running giggle gas too? :huh:

[nordy racer]

I thought he was running giggle gas too? :huh:

all motor buddy.. I never own or run a spray car..

[nordy racer]

Stock Coyote, race gas tune, cams, intake(?), exhaust(?) gets you to 500RWHP?

32000 mile stock coyote GT. Cobra Jet intake, CAI and big blade TB, 1 7/8 long tube headers. electric water pump.. only thing added to the motor.. all other parts can be seen on this video.. in the video it was running FTW race fuel at 474rwhp and 404rwtq

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6v5d6P0sHU&feature=youtu.be

NOW the car has Comp stage 3 cams, Boss Valve springs and TSS oil pump gears.. and now she's at 503rwhp with race fuel and 476rwhp on 93 pump..

[Vettezuki]

32000 mile stock coyote GT. Cobra Jet intake, CAI and big blade TB, 1 7/8 long tube headers. electric water pump.. only thing added to the motor.. all other parts can be seen on this video.. in the video it was running FTW race fuel at 474rwhp and 404rwtq

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6v5d6P0sHU&feature=youtu.be

NOW the car has Comp stage 3 cams, Boss Valve springs and TSS oil pump gears.. and now she's at 503rwhp with race fuel and 476rwhp on 93 pump..


That's impressive. The furthest I'll probably be able to get on an all motor LS 5.7 on CA 91 with a moderate cam, decent heads, and headers is *maybe* 425~.

[94cobra69ss396]

I'm super impressed with the Coyote. You're making as much horsepower NA as I am with a blower and 45 more cubes.

[nordy racer]

I'm super impressed with the Coyote. You're making as much horsepower NA as I am with a blower and 45 more cubes.
thanks man.. i'm having a house built right now so money has been taken away from the Stang. but I plan on getting the heads port and bigger valves done to net me another 30 to 40rwhp.. then when that's completed, she is DONE :sm_up_there:

[94cobra69ss396]

Did you get the untouched N/A record? I remember that's what your goal was but I don't remember if you got it.

[nordy racer]

YUP.. we crushed that record of 10.74 @ 125.. I went 10.59 at 128 in Nov..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6v5d6P0sHU&feature=youtu.be