Thinking about getting a Powerstroke. Help!

[Leedom]

As the title says... My wife has me thinking about getting a bike. She is taking a class this weekend to get her M1 license. She has a 50cc Vespa that has been sitting in the garage for the last 3 years and finally wants to ride the damn thing. She told me I should get a bike. I almost got one about a decade ago and she has me seriously thinking about it again. I am partial to GSX-R's... that is almost what I bought before (750). I was wondering if some of you guys more familiar with bikes could drop some knowledge on me about what I should look for and some issues that I should try to avoid. Is there a good starter bike? What is considered high mileage on a bike? Thanks in advance.

[Shaolin Crane]

1. Dont buy a bike
2. Save money on bike purchase for blower purchase
3. Enjoy being alive by not riding on the street

[94cobra69ss396]

I didn't like the feel of Eric's GSXR 750. It was too small. If I leaned forward like I do when I cruise on the freeway my head was past the windshield. My buddy's ZX14 is really nice though and I like the size of it. I also used to ride a Katana 600 and that was a nice sized bik as well.

[Vettezuki]

The classic starter bike is the Suzuki SV-650. It's a VTwin with good torque and reasonable power to get around just fine. They are ubuiqutous, easy to buy, easy to sell, HUGE support community. Like my Bandit, it's a "Japanese Standard Bike" which means it's still sporty but is classed completely differently for insurance. I think my Bandit was literally like $75/year.

Think about how and why you're going to ride. If you're looking for a sport bike that can be used for other things, Honda seems to always come out on top: the GSXRs and Yamaha R series are purpose built machines that don't do the longer distance cruising as well as the Hondas it seems.

The high strung I4 600cc bikes (e.g. R6) are amazingingly nimble and fast, however, you'll have to get on the gas to get them into their power range just to get around, unlike the SV VTwin in the same size which doesn't make anywhere near the same peak power, but has much more power at lower revs.

The Hayabusas and ZX14s are BIG bikes that I've heard are very comfortable. They're utterly insane for power to weight, I think the ZX is 8 second something at 150mph . . . out of the box.

New vs. Used.
Can't think of a particuarly good reason to buy new now. There are SOOOO many toys on the market at steep discounts, it's crazy. Nordy racer sold two great (and kind of special) bikes recently for $5k range. .. amazing. You can probably get a great condition SV, Bandit, etc. for $2,000-$2,500.

A bike is way more fun than a car in a lot of ways, It is however, a bit nerve racking because people just don't see you. I will say this, learning to ride a bike made me a much better and more attentive driver.

[Leedom]

I am leaning towards a sport bike if I get one. Nothing for long cruises. maybe ride it to work a few times a week and cruise with Shannon down PCH every once and a while. I am not looking for a "fast" bike at this moment. Something fun without too much power to learn on. Used for sure.

[Vettezuki]

Not sure there's any such thing as an unfast sport bike. :smack: In fact, nearly any bike unless you go quite old or tiny is going to be at least quick. My Bandit was a big old heavy Japanese standard, 1200. It'd run 11.8s at 118 all day. . stock. Check out the SVs, it's basically impossible to go wrong with them. The most important thing for you being sort of a giant is just to find a bike that you feel comfortable on.

[Leedom]

Not sure there's any such thing as an unfast sport bike. :smack: In fact, nearly any bike unless you go quite old or tiny is going to be at least quick. My Bandit was a big old heavy Japanese standard, 1200. It'd run 11.8s at 118 all day. . stock. Check out the SVs, it's basically impossible to go wrong with them. The most important thing for you being sort of a giant is just to find a bike that you feel comfortable on.

When I say fast I mean something like a hayabusa and anything over 1000CC. I am looking for something to learn on not race on. Anyone know what high mileage is considered on a bike?

Thanks for all the info all. I guess I need to sit on some of these bikes and see how I fit.

[Leedom]

1. Dont buy a bike
2. Save money on bike purchase for blower purchase
3. Enjoy being alive by not riding on the street

That is definitively floating around in my head. I am also looking for a 7.3L F250 Crew Cab too.

[Vettezuki]

Most of the things you'll be looking at will be in the low 30s to high 40s, *maybe* low 50s if you pussy foot it. High mileage would be like a 250cc Ninja, I think they're in the 70s pretty easily, but with a feller your size, I really would NOT recommend something that small. Also keep in mind that standards, like my old Bandit ran happily on 87, any of the actual sport bikes have to have 91. Seriously, check out the SV-650 as at least part of your research if you're serious.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Mo6SeNp3HJ8/TT0aDnbl-zI/AAAAAAAAA5k/81le2l2cWgs/s1600/Suzuki+SV650+_most+_sexy_designed_suprer_bike3.jpg

[Ryridesmotox]

Go get a buell firebolt 1200. Put a D&D race exhaust on it and be done with it. It will sound like a dragster ride like the wind and has a powerband like a LS v-8. I had a 97 X1 lightning and with all the work I had done it put down 100whp at like 3krpm all the way to the 7k redline. was a beast but it also got over 50mpg and I have a heavy errr um wrist lol, and they handle really nice. Plus its a harley sportster motor so you can get parts all over the place if you want. And they are really easy to work on. A high performance I4 that turns 15,000 rpm is not easy to work on... plus, why have what every other future organ donor has? get something that is more unique and is super cheap to insure, who wants to steal a buell?

[Shaolin Crane]

That is definitively floating around in my head. I am also looking for a 7.3L F250 Crew Cab too.

Oh i would definitely do the diesel before a bike. I rode for a long time, i was tired of thinking "is today going to be the day?"

[94cobra69ss396]

Have you thought about an enduro bike at all. They are easier to learn on and you can use them on or offroad. Like this XR650R.

http://images.traderonline.com/img/5/plcnad/7738744/103878615_1thumb_550x410.jpg

[Vettezuki]

Good call. If I got another bike, this would likely be the way I'd go.

[Chuck]

First off what is the price range. Then we can go from there. If I were going to get a bike again I would look for a Triumph Daytona 675. Great power, light, easy to ride. They are a little pricey compared to a Gsxr but much easier to ride. I had two bikes in my past one Gsxr 1000 and one Gsxr 750 they are fun and very fast bikes but kinda scary.

[SeanPlunk]

You're not allowed to buy a bike until the Mach 1 has a Kenne Bell and you have an F250 Diesel.

[Leedom]

You're not allowed to buy a bike until the Mach 1 has a Kenne Bell and you have an F250 Diesel.

This is more where I am leaning. The 7.3L F250 Crew Cab, 2WD or 4WD, Short bed in silver, white, DSG or red under 200K around $12K seems to be a unicorn.

Edit:Little higher mileage but possibility if they still have it
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/ctd/3024561847.html

[Damian]

Buell, I should have bought one when I wanted it. You can't get them new anymore, so used is your only option. I still want one.

[Vettezuki]

This is more where I am leaning. The 7.3L F250 Crew Cab, 2WD or 4WD, Short bed in silver, white, DSG or red under 200K around $12K seems to be a unicorn.

Edit:Little higher mileage but possibility if they still have it
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/ctd/3024561847.html

Out of curiosity, what you want a big truck for?

[Leedom]

Out of curiosity, what you want a big truck for?

I always want a truck in my stable and the extra cab does not fit a child seat well. When I watched my niece years ago it just did not work well, so that is why the crew cab. I also would like to some day have have some toys that need hauling so a diesel will give me that power and the gas mileage is much better than a gas engine. On top of everything else the diesel will for sure go 300K plus.

[Vettezuki]

Well a heavy/super duty diesel is the way to go then. Buy well and the damn thing really should last a lifetime if maintained.

[Shaolin Crane]

Yep, lots of million mile 7.3's out there. Stick to a 99-00 if you plan on juicing it up.

[Leedom]

Yep, lots of million mile 7.3's out there. Stick to a 99-00 if you plan on juicing it up.

I really do not plan on doing much. Intake, Exhaust, Tuner. Why the 99-00 out of curiosity?

[Shaolin Crane]

They have forged internals vs. PMR

[Leedom]

They have forged internals vs. PMR

99 or 00! now my selection is even smaller!:surrender:

[SeanPlunk]

This is more where I am leaning. The 7.3L F250 Crew Cab, 2WD or 4WD, Short bed in silver, white, DSG or red under 200K around $12K seems to be a unicorn.

Edit:Little higher mileage but possibility if they still have it
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/ctd/3024561847.html

Like these? (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/searchresults.xhtml?fuelCode=DSL&zip=92807&endYear=2002&modelCode1=F250&keywords=crew+cab&startYear=1998&makeCode1=FORD&numRecords=25&searchRadius=500&maxPrice=12000&showcaseOwnerId=571115&Log=0)

[Shaolin Crane]

Have you thought about an enduro bike at all. They are easier to learn on and you can use them on or offroad. Like this XR650R.

http://images.traderonline.com/img/5/plcnad/7738744/103878615_1thumb_550x410.jpg

Not advocating a bike, but word
http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/ShaolinCrane/XR600.jpg

[Leedom]

Like these? (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/searchresults.xhtml?fuelCode=DSL&zip=92807&endYear=2002&modelCode1=F250&keywords=crew+cab&startYear=1998&makeCode1=FORD&numRecords=25&searchRadius=500&maxPrice=12000&showcaseOwnerId=571115&Log=0)

Only one I liked was the white one for $12K but there are too many miles on it. Looking closer to 200K.

[94cobra69ss396]

You need to change the thread title to need help finding an F250 diesel.

[Shaolin Crane]

hehehehe

[fiveohwblow]

Guy just went full retard. Never go full retard.

[94cobra69ss396]

I'm glad that Guy changed it then instead of me.

[Leedom]

I'm glad that Guy changed it then instead of me.

No worries guys! After a lot of thought I just do not think that now is a good time for a bike. I am over it. Moving on to the F250!! Lets do this. I need to talk to Sean about financing now.

[Shaolin Crane]

No worries guys! After a lot of thought I just do not think that now is a good time for a bike. I am over it. Moving on to the F250!! Lets do this. I need to talk to Sean about financing now.

Ditto, but he wont call me back :(

[Leedom]

Ditto, but he wont call me back :(

I can get a hold of him. I have his batline number!

[SeanPlunk]

Ditto, but he wont call me back :(

I'm not ignoring you, just swamped with work/life. I'm off this week though. Shoot me a text tomorrow.

[SeanPlunk]

I can get a hold of him. I have his batline number!

I think you probably have a 50k pre-approval. Rate is going to be cheap.

[blackax]

Not a crew cab
2001 GMC, 11K
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/3055552588.html

A little more then you wanted to spend but a great truck
2003 Dodge, 15K
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/3046511042.html

I love the dodge's when it comes to pulling and looks.

Edit
A little less but 50K fewer miles.
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/3050268750.html

[Leedom]

Not a crew cab
2001 GMC, 11K
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/3055552588.html

A little more then you wanted to spend but a great truck
2003 Dodge, 15K
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/3046511042.html

I love the dodge's when it comes to pulling and looks.

Edit
A little less but 50K fewer miles.
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/3050268750.html

Thanks John but I am staying in the Ford family. All I have ever owned and ignorance is bliss. I do like the beefy looks of the dodge though, just not more than a Ford. Besides, I am looking for a short bed and no duallies, I don't need that big of a truck.

[Leedom]

I think you probably have a 50k pre-approval. Rate is going to be cheap.

I am sure I do. Gotta love taking care of your credit!

[Leedom]

Contacted the seller on this one asking if it was a diesel. Looks good though.
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/3058002266.html

[blackax]

It not quite the year you wanted but its cheap and low miles.

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/3038597056.html

Again not the year but 4x4

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/3006569117.html

Not a lot of info but the year you wanted.

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/ctd/3018833024.html

Edit
A little newer then you wanted and a little bit more money
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/3054718710.html

[blackax]

The IE is the best place to find trucks at a low price.

[Shaolin Crane]

No, sacramento is generally a 35% price difference

[blackax]

No, sacramento is generally a 35% price difference

But I'm kind of sure he doesn't want to go that far for a truck

[Shaolin Crane]

If the difference is several thousand dollars then i'm sure he would. I drove to sac for the 08 cause it was 6k less then comperable trucks in the area

Besides, staying in old town sac is always worth it

[SeanPlunk]

Contacted the seller on this one asking if it was a diesel. Looks good though.
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/3058002266.html

I can't tell either.

[blackax]

I can't tell either.

I would bet V8 gas, tail pipe looks smallish.

[Leedom]

No, sacramento is generally a 35% price difference

That is where the Mustang came from but not really at this point wanting to go that far. If I saved a few thousand though, I would consider it.

[Shaolin Crane]

Tis where my mustang came from as well.

[Shaolin Crane]

I'm not ignoring you, just swamped with work/life. I'm off this week though. Shoot me a text tomorrow.

I'll try, we're going to SD for a little vacation for the next couple days

[Chuck]

Kinda hard to tell but my guess is its gas. Get a 4x4 you will regret not getting one later. Just my advice.

[Shaolin Crane]

What he said

[Leedom]

What he said

That is what I am thinking as well. That truck was gas.

[SeanPlunk]

Do it. (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?fuelCode=DSL&zip=92807&endYear=2002&keywords=crew&modelCode1=F250&driveCode=4WD%7CAWD&showcaseOwnerId=571115&startYear=1999&makeCode1=FORD&keywordsfyc=crew&searchRadius=500&maxPrice=13000&listingId=322565110&Log=0) You could get him down to 12k.

[SeanPlunk]

Another. (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?fuelCode=DSL&zip=92807&endYear=2002&keywords=crew&modelCode1=F250&driveCode=4WD%7CAWD&showcaseOwnerId=571115&startYear=1999&makeCode1=FORD&keywordsfyc=crew&searchRadius=500&maxPrice=13000&listingId=319334171&Log=0)

Looks like a road trip to Arizona may be in order. Bring your papers ;)

[Leedom]

Another. (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?fuelCode=DSL&zip=92807&endYear=2002&keywords=crew&modelCode1=F250&driveCode=4WD%7CAWD&showcaseOwnerId=571115&startYear=1999&makeCode1=FORD&keywordsfyc=crew&searchRadius=500&maxPrice=13000&listingId=319334171&Log=0)

Looks like a road trip to Arizona may be in order. Bring your papers ;)

That would be quite the road trip. Not really looking forward to something like that right now. Tempting though.

[SeanPlunk]

Don't be a puss. We'll rent a car and drive out, LOL.

[Shaolin Crane]

Adam, that truck is WELL worth the drive. I know i'm interested in it, especially for such low miles.

[Leedom]

Don't be a puss. We'll rent a car and drive out, LOL.

Thinking about this one (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?fuelCode=DSL&zip=92807&endYear=2002&keywords=crew&modelCode1=F250&driveCode=4WD%7CAWD&showcaseOwnerId=571115&startYear=1999&makeCode1=FORD&keywordsfyc=crew&searchRadius=500&maxPrice=13000&listingId=322565110&Log=0). Not sure what restored title means, been salvage at some time? Gotta check the schedule. You are coming with? 6.5 hrs there 6.5 back.

Anyone have a way to get a VIN checked (free)?

[Chuck]

Thinking about this one (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?fuelCode=DSL&zip=92807&endYear=2002&keywords=crew&modelCode1=F250&driveCode=4WD%7CAWD&showcaseOwnerId=571115&startYear=1999&makeCode1=FORD&keywordsfyc=crew&searchRadius=500&maxPrice=13000&listingId=322565110&Log=0). Not sure what restored title means, been salvage at some time? Gotta check the schedule. You are coming with? 6.5 hrs there 6.5 back.

Anyone have a way to get a VIN checked (free)?

When Your Vehicle Becomes Salvage
Sometimes cars that have been stripped, damaged in an accident, or waterlogged don't get a second chance―but sometimes they do! It depends on whether your insurance company considers it financially prudent to revive the car or just send it to the junkyard. If it goes with the latter, the Motor Vehicle Division (MVD) will certify the automobile as "salvage," deeming it unfit for use on the road. It will be issued a new title branded with the term Salvage.

However, even that does not mean the end if you believe in restoration. You can choose to restore the salvage vehicle to make it ready for the road, but it will be the MVD that has the final say. Once you have completed the necessary repairs, your salvage vehicle needs to be inspected to verify that it is fit to drive on the open road.

Still not a bad deal for something with such low miles. Maybe when you register it here you don't have to keep the salvage title.

[SeanPlunk]

I'd stay clear of the grey truck and go for the white.

Once your car passes the inspection, it will be issued a new title branded with the term Restored Salvage. This will alert all future owners that it was rebuilt after being greatly damaged.

[Shaolin Crane]

Greatly damaged isnt alwasy true, theft, is one where a truck can suffer no damage but it was missing longer then 30 days and a payout was made

[SeanPlunk]

Greatly damaged isnt alwasy true, theft, is one where a truck can suffer no damage but it was missing longer then 30 days and a payout was made

That's true.

[Shaolin Crane]

If you have AAA every member gets one vin check for free and additionals at a greatly discounted rate, something to look into

[Leedom]

If you have AAA every member gets one vin check for free and additionals at a greatly discounted rate, something to look into

I do have AAA and will look into that.

[Leedom]

Greatly damaged isnt alwasy true, theft, is one where a truck can suffer no damage but it was missing longer then 30 days and a payout was made

Exactly what the owner said. I am still pretty leery and leaning toward staying away..

His response to my e-mail:
I have not modified this truck since I bought it Feb 2010. When I bought it, it had no muffler and no catalytic converter. I have installed a cat, and it now passes Phoenix emissions with no problems. I have no idea what any previous owner might have done. It is much faster than I thought a big diesel truck should be.

A restored title means that at some point in the vehicle’s history, the title was classified as salvage. In the case of this truck, it is because it was stolen, then recovered. Since the insurance company had to pay the claim on it, the title was classified salvage. I bought it from a dealership after all of that. I had Arizona do a Level III inspection, and the paperwork states all of this. I find no evidence of collision damage anywhere. There is a small section of the lower left fender that got crinkled when the tire came apart on the freeway. All tires (including spare) were replaced after that.

[Leedom]

I'd stay clear of the grey truck and go for the white.

This is kind of picky but I really do not want a Tan interior. Ideally I'd get gray.

[Vettezuki]

What does it matter if you're going to get it reupholstered in Seafoam anyway?

[Chuck]

If you have AAA every member gets one vin check for free and additionals at a greatly discounted rate, something to look into

Vehicle History Reporting
As a Classic or AAA Plus member, you are entitled to a 20 percent discount on the purchase of vehicle history reports. AAA Premier Members are entitled to one (1) free report per household per membership year. To order a free report, please call AAA Premier services at 1-800-852-7188. Subsequent reports are available to AAA Premier members at a 40 percent discount.

I guess you have to call you can't get it online.

[SeanPlunk]

This is kind of picky but I really do not want a Tan interior. Ideally I'd get gray.

Picky, picky, LOL.

[Leedom]

What does it matter if you're going to get it reupholstered in Seafoam anyway?

Shiiiitttt. How did you know? :gay:

[SeanPlunk]

What exterior colors are okay? Most of the whites have tan interiors...

[SeanPlunk]

Maybe. (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2002&zip=92807&keywords=crew+cab&keywordsfyc=crew+cab&maxPrice=16000&fuelCode=DSL&modelCode1=F250&driveCode=4WD%7CAWD&makeCode2=FORD&modelCode2=F350&showcaseOwnerId=571115&makeCode1=FORD&startYear=1999&searchRadius=500&listingId=312876311&Log=0)

[SeanPlunk]

This one is in Orange. (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2002&zip=92807&keywords=crew+cab&keywordsfyc=crew+cab&maxPrice=16000&fuelCode=DSL&modelCode1=F250&driveCode=4WD%7CAWD&makeCode2=FORD&modelCode2=F350&showcaseOwnerId=571115&makeCode1=FORD&startYear=1999&searchRadius=500&listingId=316556841&Log=0) How good are you at negotiating?

[SeanPlunk]

I'm looking at F350's (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2002&zip=92807&keywords=crew+cab&keywordsfyc=crew+cab&maxPrice=16000&fuelCode=DSL&modelCode1=F250&driveCode=4WD%7CAWD&makeCode2=FORD&modelCode2=F350&showcaseOwnerId=571115&makeCode1=FORD&startYear=1999&searchRadius=500&listingId=313504294&Log=0) and it really opens up the selection. What's the difference?

Another. (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2002&zip=92807&keywords=crew+cab&keywordsfyc=crew+cab&maxPrice=16000&fuelCode=DSL&modelCode1=F250&driveCode=4WD%7CAWD&makeCode2=FORD&modelCode2=F350&showcaseOwnerId=571115&makeCode1=FORD&startYear=1999&searchRadius=500&listingId=319931566&Log=0)
And more. (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2002&zip=92807&keywords=crew+cab&keywordsfyc=crew+cab&maxPrice=16000&fuelCode=DSL&modelCode1=F250&driveCode=4WD%7CAWD&makeCode2=FORD&modelCode2=F350&showcaseOwnerId=571115&makeCode1=FORD&startYear=1999&searchRadius=500&listingId=323610344&Log=0)
Another. (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2002&zip=92807&keywords=crew+cab&keywordsfyc=crew+cab&maxPrice=16000&fuelCode=DSL&modelCode1=F250&driveCode=4WD%7CAWD&makeCode2=FORD&modelCode2=F350&showcaseOwnerId=571115&makeCode1=FORD&startYear=1999&searchRadius=500&listingId=320805521&Log=0)
White with tan :( (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2002&zip=92807&keywords=crew+cab&keywordsfyc=crew+cab&maxPrice=16000&fuelCode=DSL&modelCode1=F250&driveCode=4WD%7CAWD&makeCode2=FORD&modelCode2=F350&showcaseOwnerId=571115&makeCode1=FORD&startYear=1999&searchRadius=500&listingId=321365699&Log=0)
Blue (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2002&zip=92807&keywords=crew+cab&keywordsfyc=crew+cab&maxPrice=16000&fuelCode=DSL&modelCode1=F250&driveCode=4WD%7CAWD&makeCode2=FORD&modelCode2=F350&showcaseOwnerId=571115&makeCode1=FORD&startYear=1999&firstRecord=26&searchRadius=500&listingId=321796931&Log=0)

[Shaolin Crane]

Exactly what the owner said. I am still pretty leery and leaning toward staying away..

His response to my e-mail:
I have not modified this truck since I bought it Feb 2010. When I bought it, it had no muffler and no catalytic converter. I have installed a cat, and it now passes Phoenix emissions with no problems. I have no idea what any previous owner might have done. It is much faster than I thought a big diesel truck should be.

A restored title means that at some point in the vehicle’s history, the title was classified as salvage. In the case of this truck, it is because it was stolen, then recovered. Since the insurance company had to pay the claim on it, the title was classified salvage. I bought it from a dealership after all of that. I had Arizona do a Level III inspection, and the paperwork states all of this. I find no evidence of collision damage anywhere. There is a small section of the lower left fender that got crinkled when the tire came apart on the freeway. All tires (including spare) were replaced after that.

if the truck is an auto it shouldnt have a cat at all. Sounds like he purchased it from the auto salvage place in AZ. Run the VIN and check the story, i personally have always wanted the gunmetal color to match the race car. Worse case scenario, i'll buy it from you later :) if you do buy it, make sure you remove the cat before titling in CA

[Shaolin Crane]

I'm looking at F350's (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2002&zip=92807&keywords=crew+cab&keywordsfyc=crew+cab&maxPrice=16000&fuelCode=DSL&modelCode1=F250&driveCode=4WD%7CAWD&makeCode2=FORD&modelCode2=F350&showcaseOwnerId=571115&makeCode1=FORD&startYear=1999&searchRadius=500&listingId=313504294&Log=0) and it really opens up the selection. What's the difference?

Another. (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2002&zip=92807&keywords=crew+cab&keywordsfyc=crew+cab&maxPrice=16000&fuelCode=DSL&modelCode1=F250&driveCode=4WD%7CAWD&makeCode2=FORD&modelCode2=F350&showcaseOwnerId=571115&makeCode1=FORD&startYear=1999&searchRadius=500&listingId=319931566&Log=0)
And more. (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2002&zip=92807&keywords=crew+cab&keywordsfyc=crew+cab&maxPrice=16000&fuelCode=DSL&modelCode1=F250&driveCode=4WD%7CAWD&makeCode2=FORD&modelCode2=F350&showcaseOwnerId=571115&makeCode1=FORD&startYear=1999&searchRadius=500&listingId=323610344&Log=0)
Another. (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2002&zip=92807&keywords=crew+cab&keywordsfyc=crew+cab&maxPrice=16000&fuelCode=DSL&modelCode1=F250&driveCode=4WD%7CAWD&makeCode2=FORD&modelCode2=F350&showcaseOwnerId=571115&makeCode1=FORD&startYear=1999&searchRadius=500&listingId=320805521&Log=0)
White with tan :( (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2002&zip=92807&keywords=crew+cab&keywordsfyc=crew+cab&maxPrice=16000&fuelCode=DSL&modelCode1=F250&driveCode=4WD%7CAWD&makeCode2=FORD&modelCode2=F350&showcaseOwnerId=571115&makeCode1=FORD&startYear=1999&searchRadius=500&listingId=321365699&Log=0)
Blue (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2002&zip=92807&keywords=crew+cab&keywordsfyc=crew+cab&maxPrice=16000&fuelCode=DSL&modelCode1=F250&driveCode=4WD%7CAWD&makeCode2=FORD&modelCode2=F350&showcaseOwnerId=571115&makeCode1=FORD&startYear=1999&firstRecord=26&searchRadius=500&listingId=321796931&Log=0)

towing capacity, rear end, and a great difference in insurance

[SeanPlunk]

towing capacity, rear end, and a great difference in insurance

Why would the insurance be a lot more expensive?

[Leedom]

This one is in Orange. (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2002&zip=92807&keywords=crew+cab&keywordsfyc=crew+cab&maxPrice=16000&fuelCode=DSL&modelCode1=F250&driveCode=4WD%7CAWD&makeCode2=FORD&modelCode2=F350&showcaseOwnerId=571115&makeCode1=FORD&startYear=1999&searchRadius=500&listingId=316556841&Log=0) How good are you at negotiating?

Long bed.:suicide:

[Leedom]

Maybe. (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2002&zip=92807&keywords=crew+cab&keywordsfyc=crew+cab&maxPrice=16000&fuelCode=DSL&modelCode1=F250&driveCode=4WD%7CAWD&makeCode2=FORD&modelCode2=F350&showcaseOwnerId=571115&makeCode1=FORD&startYear=1999&searchRadius=500&listingId=312876311&Log=0)

Do not want a big lifted truck.

[Shaolin Crane]

Why would the insurance be a lot more expensive?

I dont know, but it was substantially more to insure the 350 then it was to insure the 250's. And yearly registration was $100 more for the 350

[SeanPlunk]

Portland. (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ctd/3053712003.html) Doesn't say how many miles though.

[Leedom]

Portland. (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ctd/3053712003.html) Doesn't say how many miles though.

Damage behind both rear tires and on the tailgate not to mention rubber floors.

[Leedom]

What exterior colors are okay? Most of the whites have tan interiors...

Here is what I sent Julian tonight...
Years: 99-03 (prefer 99-00 as they have forged rods, just in case I upgrade power)
Model: F250 Crew Cab, Short bed
Engine: 7.3L
Trans: Auto
Drive: 4X4
Paint Color: White, Red, Silver, DSG
Interior: prefer Gray but might be willing to go tan for right price/truck
Want a truck with a bed liner or one with a bed in decent condition
Tow package
225K or fewer miles
Want relatively stock truck with all the usual power options of a XLT.
Price $13K and under

[Leedom]

I think you probably have a 50k pre-approval. Rate is going to be cheap.

Got an e-mail today confirming this!

[Leedom]

Saw this one (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/cto/3030276676.html) tonight. Not stoked on the 2 tone paint but seriously thinking about it.

[Chuck]

Do it get a truck fly up and drive it back down.

[Shaolin Crane]

I'd still do the gray one

[SeanPlunk]

I found better red ones than that. Didn't know you were okay with red. That one is ugly.

[enkeivette]

I missed this thread and Im not going to read through it, but I say if youre not prone to broken bones and you deal with pain well, go for it. Just realize you will go down, its only a matter of when.

As far as size, heres a tip, the 600s weigh as much as the 750s and the liter bikes. So only go with a 750 if youre worried about the power.

[Vettezuki]

He's ditched the bike idea and has gone for getting a big ole diesel.

[enkeivette]

Win

[Leedom]

So Guy forwarded me a 99 F-250 7.3L with 150K on it and I contacted the seller because the price is dirt cheap. Almost seems to good to be true.

eBay Auction link (http://motorsebyvpp.altervista.org/cgi/Private/Auction/FORD-F250-4X4-POWESTROKE-DIESEL-PLATINIUM-ED/#picc)

So I got a Reply from the seller that has me kind of worried about pursuing the purchase...

E-mail:
The truck is already at a shipping company in Denver, CO. I took the ford to them to be able to ship it to a potential buyer because I am located out of the city due to occupational obligations so unfortunately this means I can not meet you in person. My brother in law works there, and he promised me that it will cost me nothing to ship it. I listed the truck on eBay Motors and that lets me use their secured system. According to eBay you have 3 days from the time you receive the truck to inspect it, test it, verify that everything is in order and decide if you want to keep it or not. I've included the eBay auction link below, the only remaining thing is to press buy it now option and follow the eBay instructions. I really hope this isn't uncomfortable for you but I need to sell it using eBay due to the fact that I can not do it personally, so we are both protected and insured .

Anyone purchased a vehicle off ebay like this?

Thanks.

[Shaolin Crane]

I received the same email word for word, it's a scam. Sucks cause the first few emails seemed legit

[Ryridesmotox]

I wouldn't bid on that scam of a truck.

[Leedom]

Looking at it further...Total scam! If you look at the link he sent it does not include ebay in it. I am going to play along though and tell him I have family in Colorado (which I actually do) that would be willing ot come see the truck. See what happens.

[SeanPlunk]

It's a scam. Look at this (http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/982939-spam-right.html). The same truck has been for "sale" for years all over the country...

[Shaolin Crane]

It was somewhat believable since i've had a few buddies lately pull killer deals on similar condition trucks, seems the scammers are trying to take advantage of that

[Ryridesmotox]

Honestly if I'm gonna scam someone, I'm gonna do it for like 30grand not 5.

[Shaolin Crane]

Honestly if I'm gonna scam someone, I'm gonna do it for like 30grand not 5.

Completely diffierent criminal level between 5k and 30k. Plus more people have smaller amounts to drop on a deal.

[Ryridesmotox]

Completely diffierent criminal level between 5k and 30k. Plus more people have smaller amounts to drop on a deal.

Very true assuming these scammers are in the good ole USofA and not in some shithole corner of the world.

[Leedom]

What do any guys think about this one? The fact that title is not in hand concerns me. I do not know about the cracked injector either.

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/3216729275.html