Mazdaspeed 3 build

[Boosten ya]

I blew my motor and melted a hole in the #3 piston big enough to put your finger in it and it also melted the cylinder sleeve. They replaced the sleave and honed all the sleaves.

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/car%20stuff/6fb7219d.jpg

pistion with the hole melted thru

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/car%20stuff/2a5106a8.jpg

same but up close

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/car%20stuff/DSC00317.jpg

the new pistions —:icon_thumright:

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/car%20stuff/DSC00320.jpg

the new rods —:icon_thumright:

alright pics of the FMIC

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/car%20stuff/389.jpg

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http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/car%20stuff/385.jpg
hot pipe of the intercooler

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had to move the power steering cooler lines up a bolt

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done and on the car without the bumper

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/car%20stuff/DSC00332.jpg
cold pipe from the intercooler

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/car%20stuff/DSC00333.jpg
with the bumper on


http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/car%20stuff/DSC00334.jpg
another pic with the bumper on

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/car%20stuff/2011-06-15065955.jpg took the gay honeycomb out.

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/car%20stuff/2010-10-09090156.jpg

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/car%20stuff/2010-10-09090209.jpg wrapped the intake with aluminum bubble wrap. Need to warp the turbo inlet pipe and cold pipe. Thanks to Ziggo.

I had the head and intake manifold ported but for some reason I didn't put them on photobucket and deleted the pics. I fail.

The current mods are in my sig. My current tune is sitting at 311whp and 370wtq. I'm going to buy some nt555r's and tune for 3 gal of e85. Should put me around 330whp and 390wtq.

[blackax]

Very very nice. That is a hell of alot of hp for fwd. It should be fun!

[Boosten ya]

Thanks. I dont get traction till 4th right now. Lol

[Vettezuki]

Nice work. Why'd it melt in the first place and how's the torque steer?

[Boosten ya]

I was having fuel pump problems so it ran lean. With solid motor mounts I dont get much...anymore. Before when I just had a rear motor mount it made lane changes for me lol

[Boosten ya]

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/2012-02-15175110.jpg

Let there be traction

[SkunkLookingCar]

Those are interesting connecting rods. I haven't seen that "t" cross section before. You'll love those tires. Last time I was at the track with mine, I cut .12 off of my 60' without a hint of traction loss. Rest assured, I'm working on the too much traction problem though.

[Boosten ya]

Thanks. I can't wait to get the new clutch in/broken in and get these tires on. Then it's e85 time :)

[Boosten ya]

Ok got the clutch in and broken in. Got the drag radials on. Those hook so well. Got the GS ebcs installed in 3 port mode. Tuning boost then start with e85 this weekend.




http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/2012-04-17165926.jpg

[SkunkLookingCar]

Ok got the clutch in and broken in. Got the drag radials on. Those hook so well. Got the GS ebcs installed in 3 port mode. Tuning boost then start with e85 this weekend.




http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/2012-04-17165926.jpg


How much power are you looking at once you crank up the boost? What can the injectors handle? I think you have the stockers based on your signature but am not too well versed in the Mazda speed arena.

[Boosten ya]

Well stock turbo and with e85 I should be running about 21psi tapering to 19ish at redline. This is a direct injection motor and dont have any aftermarket injectors. We are testing out 5th and 6th injectors that are installed in the cold pipe. But with meth there is one guy at 710whp and plenty of 500whp on stock injectors. But we really need aftermarket injectors.

To answer your question, with 21psi tapering to 19psi, with 3gals of e85, and about 23° of timing I'm looking at around 330-340whp and 400-420wtq

[Boosten ya]

Well to update this thread, I finished my e85 tune. Running 21psi tapering to 16ish by 6500, 22° of timing. Car hauls ass. Peak tq is around 4100 (why idk usually it's around 3200) peak power is around 5300 which is prefect for my powerband.

It's time for a new turbo as mine has 62k miles and has been smoking for the past 15-20k miles. I got a used turbo and had my friend that ported the head and intake mani rebuild it and is going to port the back half and add a shim or two to the wastegate so I can hold more boost to redline. :)

[Vettezuki]

:popcorn:

[1992Hatch]

What were the official HP and TQ numbers?

[Boosten ya]

What were the official HP and TQ numbers?

I have not dyno'd it but ppl with less mods and 3 gals of e85 put down between 340 and 350whp and 380-410wtq. So I'm somewhere right in there.

[94cobra69ss396]

How do you know where the peak hp and tq are without dynoing it?

[Shaolin Crane]

What he said

[fiveohwblow]

Because RACECAR

[Ryridesmotox]

That build looks sic dude. I have the same injector issues as you do since the cobalt ss uses a 2.0 DI motor. I'm not sure how your HPFP works but ours is a cam driven unit. We currently have 2 options, a new set of cams with a different fuel pump gear to turn the pump faster, or a 5th injector in the intake manifold. Our EVAP system uses a port right in the middle of the intake mani directly behind the throttle body. Its perfect for putting a 60lb injector in. For me, it would allow me to run straight E85 instead of having to mix it. I'm not sure how your car responds to E85 but mine will demand about 2300psi of rail pressure from 3000-6000rpm (on my e85/91 mix tune) and the car will only be able to provide about 1000psi rail pressure or less until like 4500rpm. I can't get enough fuel in the cylinders. Having the extra injector would allow me to get enough fuel in there based on boost levels. Just cruising around, I would run on the DI only, then if I needed the extra go juice, the 5th injector would get me there. There are a bunch of cobalt guys trying to do a dyno day this summer, I'll let you know when it is so you can get a run on the rollers, I think they are talking like $50 for 3 pulls on it but I don't have all the details as of yet.

How do you know where the peak hp and tq are without dynoing it?

I'm not sure what tuning software he is using (I'm sure he said earlier in the thread) but most will show peak airflow numbers, That is what I usually use as the guess for peak power at a given RPM. When I tune for my E85/91 mix tune it I get ALOT of airflow from like 3000-5000 RPM, my torque band looks like an LS block V8.

[94cobra69ss396]

I'm not sure what tuning software he is using (I'm sure he said earlier in the thread) but most will show peak airflow numbers, That is what I usually use as the guess for peak power at a given RPM. When I tune for my E85/91 mix tune it I get ALOT of airflow from like 3000-5000 RPM, my torque band looks like an LS block V8.

I don't see how you can get peak hp and tq numbers from airflow data. I didn't tune my Cobra, Steve at Powertrain Dynamics did, but I know that when my buddy (Ron's Friend on here) did his twin turbo GTO we took it to GTR to run it on their dyno to get the power numbers.

[Ryridesmotox]

I don't see how you can get peak hp and tq numbers from airflow data. I didn't tune my Cobra, Steve at Powertrain Dynamics did, but I know that when my buddy (Ron's Friend on here) did his twin turbo GTO we took it to GTR to run it on their dyno to get the power numbers.

Ohhh I see what your saying now I totally missed the point you were making before, my bad... no, you can't determine peak numbers based on datalogs.... you can get a pretty good idea of where you car will make the power though. Example, when my car makes 'x' lbs/min of ve airflow at 'y' rpm, that RPM should yield the peak point in the powerband. as far as peak numbers, you can guess based on acceleration at a given weight but that is a total shot in the dark really. I totally missed what you were saying before lol, my bad.

[94cobra69ss396]

Ohhh I see what your saying now I totally missed the point you were making before, my bad... no, you can't determine peak numbers based on datalogs.... you can get a pretty good idea of where you car will make the power though. Example, when my car makes 'x' lbs/min of ve airflow at 'y' rpm, that RPM should yield the peak point in the powerband. as far as peak numbers, you can guess based on acceleration at a given weight but that is a total shot in the dark really. I totally missed what you were saying before lol, my bad.

Have you dyno'd your car to validate that?

[Ryridesmotox]

Have you dyno'd your car to validate that?

Yea, for my car the datalogged airflow is almost a mirror to the curve of peak torque. I will try and find my data sheets to post up. I have the dyno runs on my other computer along with my datalog info

[94cobra69ss396]

That'd would be cool to see. So max tq happened at max airflow. What about max hp?

[Ryridesmotox]

That'd would be cool to see. So max tq happened at max airflow. What about max hp?

I am gonna have to look at my logs. I dont want to shove my foot further in my mouth lol... I know that peak VE airflow (Volumetric Effeciency) is where you will hit your peak torque. But I don't know where the peak hp comes in on the logs. But I don't really care about HP since Torque is what moves you haha... what is that one saying: Oversteer is the back hitting the wall, unersteer is the front hitting the wall, torque is how far the wall moves when you hit it and HP is how far you along the wall... or something like that?

I'm not sure if these pictures will work since they are off another site. They ar kinda chopped and messed up but they kinda show what I'm talking about

Here is a picture of a log. Ok so in the second row down the white line is the VE airflow. In a 3rd gear pull @4400rpm the airflow is at 27.00 lbs/min. On this picture I wasn't looking for a VE shot but I was showing the fuel rail pressure drop.
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/5/5/9/6/0/e85logpic2.png

In this picture you can see that the VE airflow is at 30.25lbs/min. If you look at the graph you can see the line kinda peaks between 4600-5000rpm. It's hard to see, sorry about that, and my injector pump had to catch up before the engine would make real power. But that is more or less fixed now.
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/5/5/9/6/0/e85logpic1.png

And here is an old dyno sheet with a horrible slipping clutch and the wheels were losing traction on the dyno, just a shitty run but its all i have access to right now... sorry about the huuuge weird spot. It is on 91 octane so it isn't exaclty a proper analog for the comparison I'm trying to make.
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/5/5/9/6/0/ryan3.jpg

That dyno is on a straight 91 octane tune, and the log is on an E85/91 50/50 mix tune, I couldn't find a picture of the log that went with this dyno run soooo the logs will show the airflow a little later, this was pretty early on in my tuning and I was still having pretty bad fuelling issues. hopefully it kinda answer your questions more than it confuses everyone

[Boosten ya]

How do you know where the peak hp and tq are without dynoing it?

I use virtual dyno.

[Boosten ya]

That build looks sic dude. I have the same injector issues as you do since the cobalt ss uses a 2.0 DI motor. I'm not sure how your HPFP works but ours is a cam driven unit. We currently have 2 options, a new set of cams with a different fuel pump gear to turn the pump faster, or a 5th injector in the intake manifold. Our EVAP system uses a port right in the middle of the intake mani directly behind the throttle body. Its perfect for putting a 60lb injector in. For me, it would allow me to run straight E85 instead of having to mix it. I'm not sure how your car responds to E85 but mine will demand about 2300psi of rail pressure from 3000-6000rpm (on my e85/91 mix tune) and the car will only be able to provide about 1000psi rail pressure or less until like 4500rpm. I can't get enough fuel in the cylinders. Having the extra injector would allow me to get enough fuel in there based on boost levels. Just cruising around, I would run on the DI only, then if I needed the extra go juice, the 5th injector would get me there. There are a bunch of cobalt guys trying to do a dyno day this summer, I'll let you know when it is so you can get a run on the rollers, I think they are talking like $50 for 3 pulls on it but I don't have all the details as of yet.



I'm not sure what tuning software he is using (I'm sure he said earlier in the thread) but most will show peak airflow numbers, That is what I usually use as the guess for peak power at a given RPM. When I tune for my E85/91 mix tune it I get ALOT of airflow from like 3000-5000 RPM, my torque band looks like an LS block V8.


Sweet yeah let me know man.

Yes we have a HPFP that is driven by the exhaust cam. Our release valve opens at around 1950psi, ptp has a RV that holds to just under 2150psi. We have fuel pump internals that get us to 2k psi no problem but thats it.

I wonder if a new exhaust cam with bigger HPFP lobes would work for us.

[94cobra69ss396]

I use virtual dyno.

What's virtual dyno?

[Boosten ya]

It's a program someone made. You datalog your car. 4th gear start at around 2500 and takr it to redline. Just like a dyno pull. Load the log in VD and enter your car weight, driver/passengers weight, and tire size. And it gives you your estimated numbers.

The program has a bunch of cars main stats I.E. stock tire size, weight, and gear ratio.

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f505/battle-my-virtual-dyno-94798/

[Shaolin Crane]

Have you scaled your car to know it's exact weight?

[Boosten ya]

No. I've taken stuff out and have a bunch of shit in the hatch. Tool kit, small sub and amp, oil, coolant, baseball bag, a chair, a clutch with flywheel, and some other little shit. Hahaha

[94cobra69ss396]

Any idea how accurate the virtual dyno is?

[Boosten ya]

It's suppost to be really accurate and some ppl have found it to be +- 5hp and tq. But just like any dyno it varies.

[94cobra69ss396]

Are you going to dyno your car to find out what the real numbers are? It'd be cool to actually see.

[Boosten ya]

At some point, yeah but I'm not in a hurry.

[Boosten ya]

So i got my manifold in on Friday

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/IMG003.jpg

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/IMG004.jpg

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/IMG005.jpg

[Shaolin Crane]

Wow some of those welds look like dog shit. Maybe just the angle? Or it was used and repaired by someone. Otherwise its a nice manifold.

[Boosten ya]

I believe someone added the EWG on there as the welds are horrible on there. And it probably cracked so they repaired it. But it is coated. Don't know with what tho.

Btw I'm not planing on using the EWG with the stock turbo as it won't net me anything but more money lol

[heypal]

SHITS WEAK lol Looks good Josh. Well those welds don't but everything else looks good.

[Boosten ya]

Hahaha thanks Jerry. As long as those welds hold I'm ok with it. Your vette seems to be treating you well.

[Boosten ya]

These eyes, are cryen.....

[heypal]

damn thing is trying to kill me and make me go broke in the process...wouldn't trade her for anything love that car.

[Boosten ya]

I hear you. 2 weeks ago the bolt that holds the ball joint in the spindle was missing and the A arm came out. The tire went back towards the fender, smashed it, then went forward and the car landed on it. luckily i was only going like 2 mph so there wasn't much damage.

[Boosten ya]

Got my manifold installed. I'll post vids up later tonight.

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/IMG034.jpg

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/IMG032.jpg

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/IMG033.jpg

[Ryridesmotox]

How much power are you expecting after all this? I'm hoping.upwards of like 600

[Boosten ya]

If I installed a gtx3582r lol I'm still stock turbo. With e85 it won't make much of a difference.

Here are some vids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gckrxg_wOG4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqYPodFz67s&feature=youtube_gdata_player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfhkCJLS5lY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[Ryridesmotox]

Damn, after all that work and money, I would have at least been shooting for like 400whp.

[Shaolin Crane]

Damn, after all that work and money, I would have at least been shooting for like a V8.

fixed.

[Ryridesmotox]

fixed.

Lol thanks... I knew something was wrong in my post... just couldn't put my fiber on it haha

Turbo 4s are this generation's V8. Plus my car would have put up a good fight with most current V8s. But anything under 400hp feels anemic to me. Even my CTS-V needs a lot more balls for me to get excited after driving around my cobalt as fully bolted and tuned for 2 years.

[Shaolin Crane]

Meh, same goes for a boosted v8 car. Every truck compared to my 08 has been balls ass slow.

Compare a turbo 4 to turbo 8 and I'll choose the latter every time.

[Ryridesmotox]

Yea true. But there are a lot more boosted 4 bangers that run around on the streets than Turbo V8 cars. With the exception of diesel v8s of course, lots of them. I can't wait til I put a kenne bell on the cts-v

[Shaolin Crane]

I wouldnt put a kenne bell on my lawn mower.

[Boosten ya]

Our turbo just can't flow enough air to make anywhere close to 400. The gtx2876r can get us close, but we need a gtx3071r at 22-24psi and about a 3 gal mix of e85 to get to 400/400.

If i had the money I'd build a twin turbo 03 mach 1

[Shaolin Crane]

Holy crap, 24lbs to make 400hp?
That has got to be a ton of stress on the engine.

[Boosten ya]

On a stock block...ehh there are a lot of ppl running that boost/power. There are a couple guys running 450+ with 28psi. And 1 guy with 500+ with a gt35r at 32psi all on stock block.

Our motors don't flow very well but they are strong.

[Ryridesmotox]

With the cobalts, you can throw ridiculous amounts of boost at the engines as long as you have a H20/meth injections. There are 9 second balts running around with 600+ whp on stock blocks. They need some Carillo rodsd though as the stock rods will start bending at like 550-ish whp. The most I have seen on a stock turbo is like 425wtrq and about 380whp. That was on 26psi with straight E85 on an LNF. And that was a car I was helping tune. Its a Saturn Sky Redline (watch out for the black one with white strips, tis a beast.

Guy, just FYI there are a few 800-900whp cobalts running around the streets lol. Look up ZZP. They build literally some of the fastest FWD cars ever. on cobalt started life as a 06 SS supercharged balt. It then got a MASSIVE turbo, runs like 50psi on a stock-ish (girdled) block with a new lower end and some head work with cams. they were trying to break the block and just kept turning the boost up, but they ended up popping the head gasket instead. I love how strong this little motor is.

http://shop.zzperformance.com/store/default.aspx

Granted these full setups cost like 10k but for less than $30000 you can have a car that is about as fast as anything out there. And you can get it in a RWD platform as long as you don't mind running around in a Saturn sky or a pontiac solstice. haha ew

[Shaolin Crane]

Holding the power or not, its still alot of stress on an engine, any engine. I'd be willing to be most of those are 3 season engines, if that. Plus all you hear about are the cool ones making the big power, not the dozen or so to that one who blow their shit up trying to get there. IE the OP. I'm not saying its not an impressive feat. Just seems like a whole lot of work to be at a disadvantage from the start. I'm not saying i wouldnt have one as a sporty DD but I wouldnt go beyond a tune a bolt ons either.

[Boosten ya]

Yeah but it's nice to see the look on the guys face with a bolt on ls1 02 Camaro when you beat him :-)

I'm not looking for big power out of this car. I plain on getting a gtx3071r and throw 26-28psi at it and see where it lands me.

We are just now starting to experiment with cams on this platform. One company makes some but only offer one option. 10 ppl are getting custom cams and I'm watching closely and trying to learn as much as I can so when I do it I know what to get and expect.

[Ryridesmotox]

Holding the power or not, its still alot of stress on an engine, any engine. I'd be willing to be most of those are 3 season engines, if that. Plus all you hear about are the cool ones making the big power, not the dozen or so to that one who blow their shit up trying to get there. IE the OP. I'm not saying its not an impressive feat. Just seems like a whole lot of work to be at a disadvantage from the start. I'm not saying i wouldnt have one as a sporty DD but I wouldnt go beyond a tune a bolt ons either.

Absolutely correct, that is why I never went as far with the cobalt. Plus a FWD chassis just doesnt handle that kind of power well. The motors in those cobalts are 'daily drivers' but most have multiple tunes and don't run at that pwer level all the time. But having almost 400whp with my E85 combo tune was sweet.

[Ryridesmotox]

Hey boosten... sell that MS3 and get a balt if you wanna run like this... LOL sorry, couldnt resist... your riding in the daily driver cobalt stock block

GTR vs Cobalt SS vs Procharged Vette - YouTube

[Boosten ya]

Very nice. Where does that guy live? I'll try to pull up some vids of gtx3076r ms3 for you. This guy lives in NM.

[Boosten ya]

That bolt is fast as fuck.

[Boosten ya]

Go on you tube and type in rg73gz

[Ryridesmotox]

That bolt is fast as fuck.

Yea he is from Texas somewhere.

I looked up that MS3 and its pretty sweet. The best I saw was like a mid 13 with a trap of 114. I hope that was the right video. Man your guy's turbos must be different than the K04 we have even though they are supposed to be similar. On my car in Tucson, AZ I ran a 13.7 at 107 with just a tune. it was hot so the DA was like 6000 or 7000 that night

[Boosten ya]

Yeah our k04 is crap compared to yours. It's not TS like yours and I only can hold 16psi to redline.

[Boosten ya]

did you check out any of his other videos? He races some fast cars. And he on stock block.

[Ryridesmotox]

Yeah our k04 is crap compared to yours. It's not TS like yours and I only can hold 16psi to redline.

That sucks. The mazda factory is fuckin with ya'll :suicide:

[Ryridesmotox]

did you check out any of his other videos? He races some fast cars. And he on stock block.

Yea I saw a few, I am looking at CTS-V stuff right now though, so the videos are on the back burner. Gotta figure out what diff and axles I want to run so I don't shred the rear end like cheap confetti if I accidentally dump the clutch at 3k rpm next to a boy racer honda with a fart can and leave him bathed in tire smoke and a puddle of his own urine

[Boosten ya]

That sucks. The mazda factory is fuckin with ya'll :suicide:

Yeah. I was thinking if the manifold is the same then i would buy your guys stock setup and make some power lol but I doubt it would fit.

[Ryridesmotox]

Yeah. I was thinking if the manifold is the same then i would buy your guys stock setup and make some power lol but I doubt it would fit.

It probably wouldnt be worth the time and money to make that work. The KD04 we have is nice, its a twin scroll so it boost quick and it holds like 20psi at redline. But for the money of getting a mani and turbo, I would say just go big turbo and call it a day. Ours would only get you to MAYBE 400whp on race gas, and that is a BIG MABYE.

[Shaolin Crane]

Hey boosten... sell that MS3 and get a balt if you wanna run like this... LOL sorry, couldnt resist... your riding in the daily driver cobalt stock block

GTR vs Cobalt SS vs Procharged Vette - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmFQdtq3e-4)

I raise you a turbo v8 ;)
Ford Mustang Launch (street) - YouTube

[Ryridesmotox]

Hell yea, that was sweet! Looks like that driver barely fit in that little fox body though lol

[Shaolin Crane]

Shit I barely fit in mine, anyone over 5'8" has a hard time in them. Not as bad as Ben's vette though.

[Ryridesmotox]

Yea that was one of the limiting factors of me not getting one 2 years ago, I sat in one and my head was touching the ceiling, I was thinking there is no way I will get in here if I ever cage it. lol

[Shaolin Crane]

I'm 6'1'' And I sorta fit, I plan on relocating the seat mounts for extra head room.

[Ryridesmotox]

I'm 6'1'' And I sorta fit, I plan on relocating the seat mounts for extra head room.

There is an easy fix for us taller guys... i like to call it the CTS-V mod. I actually had to move the seats up from all the way back (the standard position in any car's seat rail)

[Boosten ya]

It probably wouldnt be worth the time and money to make that work. The KD04 we have is nice, its a twin scroll so it boost quick and it holds like 20psi at redline. But for the money of getting a mani and turbo, I would say just go big turbo and call it a day. Ours would only get you to MAYBE 400whp on race gas, and that is a BIG MABYE.

Yeah. I was just thinking as long as it's pretty much a direct fit I would try it.

[Boosten ya]

I raise you a turbo v8 ;)
Ford Mustang Launch (street) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPkSlhYWOe4)

I've seen this video before and that car is fast as fuck. I wouldn't mind a foxbody with the new 5.0 in it.

[Shaolin Crane]

I wouldnt either, but a swap is gonna cost around 10-15k depending on how you do it. And thats just for a stock engine. I'll take a boosted ls plz.

[Ryridesmotox]

I wouldnt either, but a swap is gonna cost around 10-15k depending on how you do it. And thats just for a stock engine. I'll take a boosted ls plz.

Even the Ford guys like the GM LS engines? Never though I would see the day Guy

[Boosten ya]

I'm more of a Ford guy but I cars with performance. So even it means putting a Chevy motor in a Ford or vice versa.

Have you guys seen a is250/300 with a ls1?

[Boosten ya]

emoFTW vs H/C LS1 IS300 - YouTube

[Boosten ya]

Bought a 3.5" intake. Haven't got it dailed in yet but soon I will. Car pulls hard up top now almost holds 18psi now lol vs 15-16.

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/car%20stuff/20130302_224945.jpg

[Boosten ya]

Here are some pics of the 3.5" intake installed and my new valve cover. This intake allows so much more flow. I'm only hitting 20 psi in the mid range so I think I'm going to up the boost back up to 22 and see what happens.

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/20130320_183653.jpg

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/car%20stuff/20130321_200041.jpg

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad146/08speed3/car%20stuff/20130321_200532.jpg

Please excuse the dirty engine bay. Lol

[Vettezuki]

You'll either have to dirty up the new bits or clean up the dirty bits. :)

[Boosten ya]

I was hoping the clean bits would keep your eyes occupied hahaha.