View Full Version : Thicker HG
enkeivette
05-19-2008, 05:46 PM
Since I have to replace the HG I've decided to go with a thicker one to drop the compression so that I can run more boost in the future. With my current pulley, I will actually be making less power but when I go to intercool it I will now be able to run 20lbs of boost as opposed to 15lbs. And if I so desired, I could run 12lbs with my current setup.
I would be going from a 4.166/ .041 gasket to a 4.2/ .071 gasket. This will take me from 9.5:1 down to 8.9:1. I've also decided to go with the Fel Pro MLS over the Cometic. With the Cometic a smooth surface is even more critical, and I will obviously not be pulling the motor apart to machine the deck.
http://www.procharger.com/images/tech_chart.jpg
I've already calculated that with a 3.1" pulley from ATI my D1SC will make 19lbs.
Although, I don't plan to order the HG till after I pull the heads. I want to measure the piston depth myself to make sure that my numbers are right.
Vettezuki
05-19-2008, 06:14 PM
So what's the over under on you making it a thousand miles with the new setup? :nutkick:
enkeivette
05-19-2008, 09:40 PM
So what's the over under on you making it a thousand miles with the new setup? :nutkick:
I'm going to be one of those guys on the forums everyone talks about that's making ridiculous power with stock parts and getting away with it, I just know it. :D :leaving:
Vettezuki
05-19-2008, 10:44 PM
I'm going to be one of those guys on the forums everyone talks about that's making ridiculous power with stock parts and getting away with it, I just know it. :D :leaving:
Just let me know so I can have the camera ready . . . . you know, just in case.
big_G
05-20-2008, 07:33 AM
Don't run the high boost numbers on the 4th of July. We won't be able to tell the difference between fireworks going off or your engine grenading...:laugh:
BRUTAL64
05-20-2008, 12:11 PM
Don't run the high boost numbers on the 4th of July. We won't be able to tell the difference between fireworks going off or your engine grenading...:laugh:
Are you saying we should start practicing "he blewed his engine up"?:rolleyes:
I have a little more faith. :sm_up_there:
enkeivette
05-20-2008, 12:18 PM
Don't run the high boost numbers on the 4th of July. We won't be able to tell the difference between fireworks going off or your engine grenading...:laugh:
My engine will be fine, it's my diff first and my T56 second that I'm worried about.
I have a 4 bolt block, forged steel crank, forged steel I beam rods, forged aluminum pistons, arp fasteners, chromeoly one piece pushrods, billet rockers, stud girdles, and the upgraded valves and valve springs from AFR to handle the high revs.
If I do buy the Camaro, when I pull this motor out of the car I will build the trans to handle the power and upgrade the clutch. My clutch should be slipping already technically. And I would only buy a Camaro with a stout 12 bolt or 9."
Are you saying we should start practicing "he blewed his engine up"?:rolleyes:
I have a little more faith. :sm_up_there:
:beer:
Vettezuki
05-20-2008, 12:20 PM
Are you saying we should start practicing "he blewed his engine up"?:rolleyes: . . .
You need to practice?
Vettezuki
05-20-2008, 12:24 PM
My engine will be fine, it's my diff first and my T56 second that I'm worried about. . . . .
If you clutch drop on sticky tires all kinds of shit is going to break. If you keep your wiener in your pants and practice safe acceleration, nobody will get hurt. (Not quite as much fun though.)
enkeivette
05-20-2008, 06:46 PM
If you clutch drop on sticky tires all kinds of shit is going to break. If you keep your wiener in your pants and practice safe acceleration, nobody will get hurt. (Not quite as much fun though.)
True true, but not my engine. It's built for 800hp easy so says the machine shop. IMHO the HG will always be the weakest link in the engine.
Vettezuki
05-20-2008, 08:12 PM
True true, but not my engine. It's built for 800hp easy so says the machine shop. IMHO the HG will always be the weakest link in the engine.
No, I meant output shafts on your transmission, followed by drive shaft and/or diff and half shafts, U joints. You don't have a 6 link or safety hoops so it's going to flail the hell out of everything along the way to self-destruction . . . your motor should be fine.
enkeivette
05-20-2008, 09:46 PM
No, I meant output shafts on your transmission, followed by drive shaft and/or diff and half shafts, U joints. You don't have a 6 link or safety hoops so it's going to flail the hell out of everything along the way to self-destruction . . . your motor should be fine.
Agreed. Then again, if life goes as planned, Cambria will never see that much wheel hp. I would wait till I had the Camaro to intercool.
Vettezuki
05-20-2008, 11:14 PM
. . . Then again, if life goes as planned. . .
:laugh:
Leedom
05-20-2008, 11:53 PM
...if life goes as planned....
I have to agree...:laugh::sm_laughing:
BRUTAL64
05-21-2008, 10:56 AM
You need to practice?
I think he is really thinking things out here. His is very thorough in his approach to building this engine. Every engine is a learning curve. I think his engine will hold up just fine.:bigthumbsup:
enkeivette
05-21-2008, 01:20 PM
I think he is really thinking things out here. His is very thorough in his approach to building this engine. Every engine is a learning curve. I think his engine will hold up just fine.:bigthumbsup:
I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not. :confused:
Vettezuki
05-21-2008, 02:23 PM
I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not. :confused:
Master of sarcasm that I am, I'll go with no on this one. I think he was being complimentary. :bigthumbsup: I'm the one who makes fun of you.:nutkick:
big_G
05-21-2008, 02:31 PM
If you keep your wiener in your pants and practice safe acceleration, nobody will get hurt.
Now what fun would that be?:laugh:
Enkeivette....you built it strong, MLS gaskets would have been my requirement at the build point...water under the bridge. BTW, I have an appointment with the dyno Saturday. Maybe with a tighter belt I can get real numbers this time. :sm_up_there: (last run I stopped at 4,600. 539/493 wheel tq/hp.)
BRUTAL64
05-21-2008, 05:39 PM
I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not. :confused:
No sarcasm here. Just my honest thoughts. :judge:
enkeivette
05-21-2008, 09:38 PM
BTW, I have an appointment with the dyno Saturday. Maybe with a tighter belt I can get real numbers this time. :sm_up_there: (last run I stopped at 4,600. 539/493 wheel tq/hp.)
:eek:
No sarcasm here. Just my honest thoughts. :judge:
:beer:
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