Porsche driver's clinic Sat, Feb 18 $130, El Toro Airfield

[mdpalmer]

Here's an email I sent to my "car guy" list:

Hey guys.

-The Porsche Club of America (PCA) Orange Coast Region (OCR) group is having a car control clinic at the El Toro airfield near Irvine (GREAT, GREAT venue for something like this!!!)
-I know a lot of you guys have seen my vids, but for those that haven’t here’s an out of car clip from last Sept 2011 to give you an overview of the auto-x layout (they change it up every time with cones)
LS1 Rx-7 FD 09-11-11 PCA OCR Autocross Outside View Run 4 - YouTube

In car clip from the Dec event:
12-04-11 PCA OCR El Toro Auto-X LS1 FD Rx-7 - YouTube

-Sat, Feb 18. $130
-They provide an instructor and what I assume is a hotdog/hamburger lunch. Last auto-x they had pretty tasty dogs (/w grilled onions if you got there early lol) and potato salad+drink.
-According to their site, NO HELMET IS REQUIRED. So don’t use that as an excuse why you can’t go :)
-For any newbies, and even hopeless drivers with some experience like me, this event should really help with learning your car in a low stress (both you and the car) environment.
-From what I heard, they are supposed to set up a skid pad with water on it to practice oversteer corrections and what not.
-Afternoon session includes a “mini” auto cross course to “practice” your newly learned skills (whatever that means).
-I have done two of the PCA OCR autocross events and am very impressed with their organization and overall execution, they put on a great show. I assume this one will be as good as before.
-Even if you have a total shitbox car (geo metro, Honda civic with no mods, minivan, etc.), you should consider coming out. Especially those of you with a project car that never seems to get finished, you should come out and “get it out of your system” with said shitbox :)
-Same goes for those of you with new rides. Time to break that thing in :)

Event link:
https://www.motorsportreg.com/index.cfm/event/event.advert/uidEvent/45602BB3-9D01-B546-E9ABB521ED424F61

Create an account to sign up.

Driver’s list:
https://www.motorsportreg.com/index.cfm/event/event.status/uidEvent/45602BB3-9D01-B546-E9ABB521ED424F61

Please pass this along to your fellow drivers/car nuts, I really think this will be a good event and folks should at least be aware of it. See you at El Toro!

-mike

[mustangray]

Looks like fun !!

[kdracer73]

tempted......very tempted !

[georgetek]

Wait so anyone can sign up? It doesn't matter what kind of car you have?

George

[Redondo Jon]

kdracer73, georgetek… What do you think? There’s plenty of lead-time on this one. It wouldn’t take much / any prodding for me to say yes to this. Besides, Mike is one of the coolest people I know.

[edit] I’ve e-mailed these guys with a question, so depending upon their answer I’m going to this.

[kdracer73]

kdracer73, georgetek… What do you think? There’s plenty of lead-time on this one. It wouldn’t take much / any prodding for me to say yes to this. Besides, Mike is one of the coolest people I know.

I have to justify the loss of a days pay for a Saturday event. And already have to take the 28th off for a wedding.....

[blackax]

I really want to do this....I need to check a few things out but i should be able to go.

[georgetek]

kdracer73, georgetek… What do you think? There’s plenty of lead-time on this one. It wouldn’t take much / any prodding for me to say yes to this. Besides, Mike is one of the coolest people I know.

[edit] I’ve e-mailed these guys with a question, so depending upon their answer I’m going to this.
Sounds great to me. Adam and my buddy Bryce have both been really wanting to something like this so I'm sure they would be in for this also.

George

[mdpalmer]

Yes yes yes!!!! You guys are all welcome and have badass cars to boot! I know for me, 1/2 the fun is seeing the other machines, and as much as I like Porsches, it's kinda boring when everyone has one there lol. Don't get me wrong, just look at the driver's list as the event draws closer... you'll see all kinds of cars.

Would be great to have you out there. I think we all would learn a lot and have a great time. The point of the event is to practice "screwing around with your car" in a controlled environment with an instructor to point you in the right direction. Since it's winter time, air should be cooler... and this place is close to sea level too so everyone's car should be running with good power!

You don't need crazy brake or tire upgrades or anything really, just bring you, the car, some water, sunscreen, a hat, and you're good! Auto-x the next day will require a helmet though.

And if you're up to it, there is an autocross the very next day at the same place!!! I know of one guy on here who is gonna do that... now I'm tempted to do the same :) Maybe get a hotel in the irvine area on Sat night. What do you guys think?

Really, it's soooooooooooo much fun. Nothing to run into either. Well, except a corner worker or a cone. Either one will buff right out :D

EDIT: I should add that they have events at that venue (El Toro) practically monthly, so if you miss it no biggie. There will be plenty more!! At least for this year, from what I gather they have some kind of contract for 2012. I think DE (driver's education) are once a year and autocross runs for the remainder. Poke around the PCA OCR site, should explain it all.

[Redondo Jon]

Well I’m signed-up, registered, and have paid. The way I look at: If learn something I don’t already know, it’s worth it. (It’ll be worth it ‘cause I’ve got a lot to learn) :) They’re going to run this thing rain or shine by the way. Can’t wait!

[blackax]

Ok just signed up. I'm excited and can't wait.

[kdracer73]

Damn the bills, food and a Valentines day present for Frankie ! I'm signing up tonight when I get home:drink:

[georgetek]

I'm registered. When do we have to do the vehicle inspection by?

George

[Redondo Jon]

That’s a good question. I’m just going to print out their Tech form, fill in the stuff that’s applicable, and bring it with me. I think they’ll want to scrutinize the car and then fill out the rest of the form. I’m also bringing my 8x10 Easy-up so we can get out of the sun / rain. Actually, I’m kind of crossing my fingers for rain.

[kdracer73]

mdPalmer, does this apply????
According to their site:
The Orange Coast Region has established an optional program for Drivers to get their cars ‘Pre-Teched’ prior to driving events. We strongly encourage all drivers to have their cars checked out, ‘Pre-Teched’, prior to DE/Track events. These events may be out of town at tracks and ‘Pre-Tech’ could avoid a mechanical failure on the road hundreds of miles away from home or at the event. Additionally, every car must pass a Technical Inspection prior to Registration so getting your car ‘Pre-Teched’ prior to the event should avoid any Technical Inspection issues at the event that could potentially prevent driving your car. You may also get your car ‘Pre-Teched’ for Autocross events if preferred.

Cars can be ‘Pre-Teched’ anytime after their last event but not more than thirty days prior to an event. We recommend getting your car ‘Pre-Teched’ at one of the stations at http://pcaocr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63 that support our driving events.

Please remember that these businesses are providing this service at no-cost, as a courtesy to OCR club members. CONTACT YOUR STATION OF CHOICE AND BOOK AN APPOINTMENT IN ADVANCE. DO NOT WAIT UNTIL THE LAST WEEK BEFORE EVENT. MOST BUSINESSES ARE BUSY THE WEEK BEFORE AN EVENT PREPARING CUSTOMER CARS.

Bring a copy of the Autocross, D.E. & Time Trial Registration/Tech Form available on our website to the ‘Pre-Tech’ Inspection Station. They will perform the specified inspections and stamp and sign the form. Then bring the completed form to Registration at the event; Technical Inspection at the event will not be required for valid ‘Pre-Tech’ forms.

IT IS THE DRIVER’S RESPONSIBILITY TO ASSURE THAT ALL LOOSE ITEMS ARE REMOVED FROM THE CAR PRIOR TO PARTICIPATING IN THE EVENT.
CAOCR Pre-Tech Stations
by admin » Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:00 pm

PCA Orange Coast Region Driving Series
Pre-Tech Stations

Series Sponsor
Walter’s Automotive Group
Emory Pearson
3210 Adams Street
Riverside, CA 92504
888-656-5003
http://www.waltersporsche.com

Event Sponsors
Autowerkes
Bruce Powers
7452Talbert Avenue
Huntington Beach, CA 92648
(714) 842 -2277
http://www.autowerkes.com

Cape Auto Repair
James Buck
27762 Forbes Road,Suite 1r,
Laguna Niguel, CA 92677
(949) 582-3131
capeautorepair@yahoo.com
http://local.yahoo.com/info-21051002-ca ... una-niguel
Cape Auto Repair

GMG-Global Motorsport Group
John Ghaemmaghami - Service Manager
3210 S. Shannon St.
Santa Ana, CA 92707
Telephone # 714-432-1582
http://www.gmgracing.com

Hergesheimer MotorSports
Laura Hergesheimer
20612 Cañada Rd.
Lake Forest, CA 92630
949 458-7223
http://www.hergesheimer.com

Stuttgart Performance (993 or Newer Porsches Only)
Michael Schalke - Service Manager
1275 Logan Avenue
Costa Mesa, Ca. 92626
714-498-2275
http://www.stuttgartperformance.com

Vision Motorsports
Dwayne Dement
22681 Granite Way
Laguna Hills, Ca 92653
949-770-2888
http://www.visionmotorsports.com
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[blackax]

I might even install an oil cooler before the event!

[mdpalmer]

I'm registered. When do we have to do the vehicle inspection by?

George

You can do it any time up to the day of. Aside from going over my car personally right before an event, I have never ever "pre-teched" my car.. just drove up the day of, they check it out, sign you off, done :)

I think the only things they are really looking for is that your car is not leaking fluids, your body work is together (bumpers are bolted up, etc.), seats are bolted down, seat belts are good, wheels are bolted up and don't wobble (bad bearings, loose lugs), and that your battery is SECURE!!!! For most guys with OEM type setups, no problem, but guys like me with engine swaps and what not, it can be a little more work. No big deal.

That’s a good question. I’m just going to print out their Tech form, fill in the stuff that’s applicable, and bring it with me. I think they’ll want to scrutinize the car and then fill out the rest of the form. I’m also bringing my 8x10 Easy-up so we can get out of the sun / rain. Actually, I’m kind of crossing my fingers for rain.

Yeah, just print it up and sign off stuff. That's what I've done. Bring it with you when you tech the car. Typically you drive into the venue early A.M. and park, and when you get all the crap out of your car you drive to the tech line and they check you out.

But rain???? Noooooo!

mdPalmer, does this apply????
According to their site:


Yep, it should apply. If you pre-tech your car, and everything is OK... you can show up later than everyone else and still run :) Only problem is if you show up "late" you will have a pit area far away from the "center stage" where all the announcements are made. It is very important to be there early though, as they make announcements and "walk the track" for autocross to get everyone familiar with the layout and rules.

I am very tempted to pre-tech mine actually just to get it done. But, if you show up early, when you park leave some room around you (esp. side to side) for the other guys parking next to you.

I might even install an oil cooler before the event!

lol no way!!! you will not need one for this event. This is NOT an open track day at Willow Springs or Buttonwillow. IOW, not stressful on your car! LS6 in ur whip right? If you're running synthetic oil, you're probably good up to 280-300*F intermittent, that's what I've read on the C5 Z06 guys at least :) I have no oil coolers on my ls1 and my oil temps never go past 240 on a hot day autocrossing. I hit 260 a few weeks ago driving in canyons, but car likes to be beaten I guess :smack:

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So glad to see you guys signed up, can't wait!!!!

[blackax]

lol no way!!! you will not need one for this event. This is NOT an open track day at Willow Springs or Buttonwillow. IOW, not stressful on your car! LS6 in ur whip right? If you're running synthetic oil, you're probably good up to 280-300*F intermittent, that's what I've read on the C5 Z06 guys at least :) I have no oil coolers on my ls1 and my oil temps never go past 240 on a hot day autocrossing. I hit 260 a few weeks ago driving in canyons, but car likes to be beaten I guess :smack:

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So glad to see you guys signed up, can't wait!!!!

Its a blowen ls2, I can get up to 270 on the cruises we go on. I don't like my oil sitting at 280 that's why i've been planing it for a wile i just haven't done it. I also need to flush my breaks again.

[georgetek]

Ok good to know. How early should we get there? Question my rear tires are fairly worn out, should I use those or get a new set prior to this event?

George

[kdracer73]

I work next door to Vision Racing, so I will have them tech me ahead of time, but I will be there early to park together.

[kdracer73]

I work next door to Vision Racing, so I will have them tech me ahead of time, but I will be there early to park together.

BAMM !!!! DONE !!!
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad94/kdracer73/motorgen%20stuff/Photo218.jpg

[Redondo Jon]

What!? Already? Man, I gotta’ get moving.

[mdpalmer]

Its a blowen ls2, I can get up to 270 on the cruises we go on. I don't like my oil sitting at 280 that's why i've been planing it for a wile i just haven't done it. I also need to flush my breaks again.

Damn... I hear you on high oil temps. I wouldn't worry about it for this event. Flushing brake fluid is not a bad idea but even if it's "old", I think you'll be fine, you probably know the limits of the brakes by now anyway :) You will most likely NOT boil your fluid on this day.


Ok good to know. How early should we get there? Question my rear tires are fairly worn out, should I use those or get a new set prior to this event?

George

I wouldn't worry about new tires. In fact, if I was you, I would make it a point to destroy them so you can get some new ones :) Many people argue that you learn more about car control with crappy tires, in that you learn to slide the car around. Make sure you let your instructor know you have bald tires before you start your day heehee :) As far as when to get there... I would say as soon as the gates open, esp. if you have not pre-teched your car. It's kind of a mad dash to tech your car, esp. if there are a lot of people.

BAMM !!!! DONE !!!

Oh yeah!! I love it. Man you're ready to go! :D

BTW, if you bring an EZ UP or shade structure to bring something to tie it down. When the wind kicks up it blows stuff everywhere!

[silverscmustang]

mike wanna go to one of those places and get pre-teched one of these upcoming weekends? Itd be nice to not have to worry about that the morning of.

[mdpalmer]

mike wanna go to one of those places and get pre-teched one of these upcoming weekends? Itd be nice to not have to worry about that the morning of.

we should, just get it out of the way. PM/IM/text/email me where you think is a good place close by, I haven't even looked at the list yet lulz :smack:

EDIT: so it looks like they are in orange county, duh (OCR=orange county region). I'm down for a pre-tech man. LMK when you want to go.

[Redondo Jon]

mike wanna go to one of those places and get pre-teched one of these upcoming weekends? Itd be nice to not have to worry about that the morning of.Umm… me too. Let me know when you decide on a place & time because I’d like to do this as well.

[Shaolin Crane]

I want to go :(

Who wants to fund the completion of my car?

[silverscmustang]

ok Mike and Jon lol wanna just head down to Autowerkes one of these weekends? Maybe this sunday?

[Redondo Jon]

I’m okay with any time you guys want to go. Are you going to call them or should I? It doesn’t look like they have any parking to speak of & there’s three of us. Hmm…

[georgetek]

ok Mike and Jon lol wanna just head down to Autowerkes one of these weekends? Maybe this sunday?
Can I go too?

George

[Redondo Jon]

I don’t see why not. Daniel, Mike & I live almost a stones-throw away from one another so we’ll drive down together & meet you there after the details are finial. Sound good?
Event Sponsors:
Autowerkes: Bruce Powers
7452 Talbert Avenue, Huntington Beach, CA 92648 (714) 842 -2277

[georgetek]

Sounds good! That's right down the street from my house.

George

[kdracer73]

Might be out...lost a days pay to the flu yesterday:barf::barf::barf:...don't get paid for sick days. And work has been a little slow already.....

[Chuck]

I am very tempted but work is so unpredictable... I may wait till it gets closer.

[mdpalmer]

Might be out...lost a days pay to the flu yesterday:barf::barf::barf:...don't get paid for sick days. And work has been a little slow already.....

^ That sucks, everyone has been getting sick at my work.... kind of scary, one guy was out for almost two weeks!!!!! Yikes :( No worries man, there are many more of these events. Hope you get better.

Hey Jon, Daniel, George, I was tied up the last week, so next weekend, or any time after that, would be better for me... Feb 4-5. There will be a couple of us...

Me
Daniel
Jon
George
my gf (yellow rx7)

I will call the shop tomorrow to see what the deal is, I think they would be stoked to see 5 very different cars show up :)

:thumbs_up:

Hope you other guys consider going, I'm so excited!!!!! Daniel, you should show these guys the new tires you got :D

[Redondo Jon]

Any day or time you set-up is okay with me Mike. Thanks for doing this.

[mdpalmer]

I don’t see why not. Daniel, Mike & I live almost a stones-throw away from one another so we’ll drive down together & meet you there after the details are finial. Sound good?
Event Sponsors:
Autowerkes: Bruce Powers
7452 Talbert Avenue, Huntington Beach, CA 92648 (714) 842 -2277

Crap, I just got off the phone with Bruce. He's not open on weekends.. there is no way I can make it during the week. He said to give a heads up the day before you guys come in if you want to do it.

[Redondo Jon]

Okay, well… Thanks for finding out. I’ll go during the week then.

[silverscmustang]

ya I cant go during the week either. any of the other sponsors open on weekends?

[SoCalC55]

My car has been in the shop, but barring any further issues or schedule conflicts I'm going to try and make this.

I am also talking to one of my friends who just bought a 2012 5.0 Stang about going as well.

[kdracer73]

Might be out...lost a days pay to the flu yesterday:barf::barf::barf:...don't get paid for sick days. And work has been a little slow already.....

Well, looks like I CAN do it.

I called my boss at the smog shop yesterday and told him to put me back on the schedule for the 18th. I told him I just couldn't swing the cash+lost day of work. He called me today and told me he would pay my entry fee, cause he knows how bad I wanted to go, and he appreciates how hard I work! :drink::drink::drink::drink:

[Redondo Jon]

^^^ yes... :penguin:

[Chuck]

Now that's a cool boss.

[Shaolin Crane]

Seriously, my boss isnt even that cool and he's my Dad :huh:

[kdracer73]

Seriously, my boss isnt even that cool and he's my Dad :huh:

Maybe if ya didn't fill his shop with broken cars, he would be nicer ??:D

[Redondo Jon]

Oh snap :smack:

[blackax]

Maybe if ya didn't fill his shop with broken cars, he would be nicer ??:D

Good man good man...but now your most likely gonna die... guy is crazy!....and he loves kittens!

[kdracer73]

Good man good man...but now your most likely gonna die... guy is crazy!....and he loves kittens!

MEEEOW.....

[Shaolin Crane]

Maybe if ya didn't fill his shop with broken cars, he would be nicer ??:D

I was actually required to keep the cars there. You know what they say, no one screws you like family...


And yes, i hope my old POS ford's brakes work the next time I park behind your camaro :smack:

[Shaolin Crane]

Good man good man...but now your most likely gonna die... guy is crazy!....and he loves kittens!

Hey hey now, until there is clinical proof i'm going to call you a liar sir :D

[Vettezuki]

Well, looks like I CAN do it.

I called my boss at the smog shop yesterday and told him to put me back on the schedule for the 18th. I told him I just couldn't swing the cash+lost day of work. He called me today and told me he would pay my entry fee, cause he knows how bad I wanted to go, and he appreciates how hard I work! :drink::drink::drink::drink:

Smart boss too. Betcha you keep working hard. :drink:

[blackax]

Hey hey now, until there is clinical proof i'm going to call you a liar sir :D

Your right you are allegedly crazy, But I know for a fact that you love kittens! Nice big fluffy ones.

[Chuck]

Kitten Mittons!!! - YouTube

[Shaolin Crane]

Gawd if you guys are going to try and razz me step up your game.
eHarmony Video Bio - YouTube

Chuck has undeniable evidence that he loves nemo. Probably all disney movies.

[Chuck]

Okay ill admit I have some dumb tattoos the results of living across the street from your roommates tattoo shop. Many nights spent there drinking till 4-5-6 am and it was hard for me to turn down a free tattoo. But it has nothing to do with finding Nemo it was going to be an underwater scene but like many things it is unfinished.

AT LEAST I DO NOT LOVE KITTENS!!!

kittens inspired by kittens - YouTube

[Shaolin Crane]

Dude, I dont have to defend myself about my girlfriends post, you willingly let pixar brand you :D

[mdpalmer]

Well, looks like I CAN do it.

I called my boss at the smog shop yesterday and told him to put me back on the schedule for the 18th. I told him I just couldn't swing the cash+lost day of work. He called me today and told me he would pay my entry fee, cause he knows how bad I wanted to go, and he appreciates how hard I work! :drink::drink::drink::drink:

That is sooooooo awesome man. Great to hear!!!! Keep up the good work, your boss sounds like a good guy.

And man... I haven't checked this thread in a while... you guys are so off topic it cracks me up :laugh:

2 weeks to go!!!!! can't wait!!! :thumbs_up:

[Redondo Jon]

I know huh. Things get weird here quickly. I’m getting my car checked-out tomorrow so I should be okay to just show up & park.
[Edit] Tech done. Wow, that was easy.

[mdpalmer]

Last minute bump. See you guys on Sat :)

[Redondo Jon]

Last minute bump. See you guys on Sat :)Mike, you have a P.M.

[kdracer73]

Are we going to roll in at 6:30am to get our pit area set up, or are you guys sleeping in?

[mdpalmer]

Are we going to roll in at 6:30am to get our pit area set up, or are you guys sleeping in?

We can all meet up at the gas station right by the airfield entrance a little bit before 6:30 and we can roll in together. I'll post up some details on where to go either later tonight or tomorrow sometime. There's a couple of us locally in the South Bay that will caravan out and we can meet you guys there.

Here's the gas station:
14886 Sand Canyon Avenue, Irvine, CA 92618-2101 (Sand Canyon Services Station)
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=AMCI+Drive+Center&hl=en&ll=33.676603,-117.758431&spn=0.001847,0.002497&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&hq=AMCI+Drive+Center&hnear=El+Segundo,+California&t=h&z=19&iwloc=lyrftr:h,5361730494516474067,33.676729,-117.758567

Map showing the airfield and the gas station is on the left hand side. Maybe later I will post another map that shows the directions on how to get into the airfield.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=AMCI+Drive+Center&hl=en&ll=33.67189,-117.747581&spn=0.012983,0.027874&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&hq=AMCI+Drive+Center&hnear=El+Segundo,+Los+Angeles,+California&t=h&z=16

There is a forum where some questions/answers are posed/answered. Check it out: http://www.pcaocr.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=3&sid=b160bff7e9b79aa1df6009ca5fa84c7d

Basic directions to air field/driving event area:
http://www.pcaocr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12

[blackax]

We can all meet up at the gas station right by the airfield entrance a little bit before 6:30 and we can roll in together. I'll post up some details on where to go either later tonight or tomorrow sometime. There's a couple of us locally in the South Bay that will caravan out and we can meet you guys there.

Here's the gas station:
14886 Sand Canyon Avenue, Irvine, CA 92618-2101 (Sand Canyon Services Station)
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=AMCI+Drive+Center&hl=en&ll=33.676603,-117.758431&spn=0.001847,0.002497&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&hq=AMCI+Drive+Center&hnear=El+Segundo,+California&t=h&z=19&iwloc=lyrftr:h,5361730494516474067,33.676729,-117.758567

Map showing the airfield and the gas station is on the left hand side. Maybe later I will post another map that shows the directions on how to get into the airfield.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=AMCI+Drive+Center&hl=en&ll=33.67189,-117.747581&spn=0.012983,0.027874&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&hq=AMCI+Drive+Center&hnear=El+Segundo,+Los+Angeles,+California&t=h&z=16

There is a forum where some questions/answers are posed/answered. Check it out: http://www.pcaocr.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=3&sid=b160bff7e9b79aa1df6009ca5fa84c7d

Basic directions to air field/driving event area:
http://www.pcaocr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12

I'm down with this.


I do hate that this is so damn early!

[mdpalmer]

I'm down with this.


I do hate that this is so damn early!

lmfao ^ yes, it sucks. I hate getting up early too if I can avoid it. You'll be happy you did it, trust me :thumbs_up:

I'll try marking up a map later to show exactly where to go on the airfield. When I look at the map I thought to myself "duh" it's not that hard :smack:

[blackax]

Hey paul it looks like we are in the same group!

[kdracer73]

Hey paul it looks like we are in the same group!

Yes, I saw that ! Love the description of our day ! This sounds like work :D

[Redondo Jon]

How do you guys know that you’re in the same group? Where / what are you looking at? :confused:

[blackax]

How do you guys know that you’re in the same group? Where / what are you looking at? :confused:

Look at your email.

[kdracer73]

Look at your email.

From Dennis Neff. 3 attachments with all kinds of good info !

[Redondo Jon]

Guess I should check my email occasionally... :o
Ahh, I’m green; I don’t have any friends in green. :( Sad Christmas. See you guys tomorrow.

[georgetek]

Go red team! See you guys at the gas station in the morning.

George

[blackax]

Damn it i forgot to print a tech sheet at work!

[kdracer73]

That was FREAKIN AWESOME !!!!!

[mdpalmer]

I was stoked to have all of you guys come out. I had a great time, aside from having to fix my heat shield rubbing my tires issue :) I was a little disappointed how the communication was between staff and students, they didn't have a PA/megaphone working. There was some lopsidedness in how many runs for a given event depending on what group you were in. I enjoyed the costco pizza, however ;)

My favorite event was definitely the figure 8, esp on the dry, I had the instructor with the red shirt who was encouraging me to drift, I learned more in 2 minutes with that guy in my car than I have in the last 6 years of driving it lol. The skidpad was really fun too, it really gave me a feel for the under/oversteer.

The braking one was retarded. I got totally different tips from different instructors. Oh well.

Look forward to another one, keep in mind these guys put autocross on almost monthly!

[mdpalmer]

That was FREAKIN AWESOME !!!!!

Glad you had fun :) There were a lot of people checking your car out BTW. Clean as hell man, good job. Sounds mean as shit too :thumbs_up:

[kdracer73]

Glad you had fun :) There were a lot of people checking your car out BTW. Clean as hell man, good job. Sounds mean as shit too :thumbs_up:

It was a huge ego boost, having instructors fight for my ride along

[Redondo Jon]

I had the same experience with the accident avoidance exercise; three different instructors, three completely different sets of instructions. That coupled with an almost useless flag-person… :tongue: However, set aside that one exercise and the rest of the day was tremendously fun! My favorite, by a huge margin, was the skid pad. Strangely enough, that was the one event I was most concerned with. I just pictured myself continually spinning out and not being able to do it but the minute I relaxed and felt how the car was responding, it was like the sky opening up before me. I couldn’t be any more pleased with my progress. The mini auto-cross at the end of the day was a thousand tons of fun too.

I’d like to thank you again Mike for posting the initial info and for all the work you put into the organization; maps, times, meet spots, etc. And of course to those who attended. The event was made more enjoyable by you being there. :drink:

[Shaolin Crane]

Is is sad i cannot attend

[georgetek]

Today was a blast thank you Mike for inviting us! I also loved the figure 8 and for some reason my group didn't end up doing the braking exercise. Oh well I don't need to brake anyway.:thumbs_up: So when's the next one?

George

[Vettezuki]

Pics and vids ya'll.

[kdracer73]

Pics and vids ya'll.
Working on it. I woke up and felt like crap today..still in bed.
Can you get a adrenaline hangover?

[mdpalmer]

I just pictured myself continually spinning out and not being able to do it but the minute I relaxed and felt how the car was responding, it was like the sky opening up before me. I couldn’t be any more pleased with my progress. The mini auto-cross at the end of the day was a thousand tons of fun too.

I’d like to thank you again Mike for posting the initial info and for all the work you put into the organization; maps, times, meet spots, etc. And of course to those who attended. The event was made more enjoyable by you being there. :drink:

I had the same initial feelings about the skid pad. Pretty amazing how relaxing allows you to drive better and feel the car out, isn't it? Very satisfying feeling too, when you "get it". That exercise was definitely the most eye opening for me.

No problem about the initial post, I tried to give you guys a little more time for a heads up this time lol. Also, the porsche guys shouldn't have all the fun, I thought it was cool we kinda crashed their party. I like their little stab at the GTOs & Caddy in the morning lol.

Is is sad i cannot attend

Next time man, they put the clinic on once a year and they have autocross almost every month.

Today was a blast thank you Mike for inviting us! I also loved the figure 8 and for some reason my group didn't end up doing the braking exercise. Oh well I don't need to brake anyway.:thumbs_up: So when's the next one?

George

Hey George, glad you could make it, I think you guys opened some eyes. It was a lot of fun watching you and gabe with the other black GTO drive the autocross course. I was working the last corner with daniel (supercharged mustang). I'm pretty sure they put the driver's clinic at el toro on once a year in the Jan/Feb timeframe. I think they have another event they put on at willow springs, which sounds like a lot of fun... but it's far away, which sucks.

Pics and vids ya'll.

Sadly, the two pics I took came out like shit. I didn't get any video cuz I was running around early in the morning trying to figure out/fix my tire rubbing issue, didn't get my camera set up :(

Working on it. I woke up and felt like crap today..still in bed.
Can you get a adrenaline hangover?

lol, yep... I felt like poop too. Kinda wears you out doesn't it? I look forward to you guys' vids, I think everyone had a camera running (besides me).

[kdracer73]

Sadly, the two pics I took came out like shit. I didn't get any video cuz I was running around early in the morning trying to figure out/fix my tire rubbing issue, didn't get my camera set up :(



lol, yep... I felt like poop too. Kinda wears you out doesn't it? I look forward to you guys' vids, I think everyone had a camera running (besides me).

We have a thread, just for the pics and vids...
http://motorgen.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36690

[kdracer73]

I sent Dennis Neff a thank you:



Hello Dennis,
I attended the car Control Course on Saturday, and just wanted to thank you and all the people that made this event so great. My freinds and I had a blast ! I had the red Camaro, and was with the GTOs , Cadi and RX7 guys. It was a honor to be included in your Porsche event. I look forward to your future events.
Thank You,
Paul Galante

Got this back,


Hello Paul,

Glad your group had a blast at the PCA_OCR Drivers' Car Control Clinic sponsored by Walters Porsche of Riverside. I enjoyed watching you & your American-muscle red Camaro negotiate the exercises. You even brought your own cheering section complete with canine - a Chihuahua?

Thanks for your kudos to our excellent team of volunteer instructors and event organizers. We welcome you & your friends at any of our future events to include auto crosses & drivers education track events. Follow our events and sign-up at http://pcaocr.motorsportreg.com/. Hope to see your group at our next event.

Regards,

Dennis Neff

[Shaolin Crane]

Maybe i can make it to the next one, next year...

[mdpalmer]

Hey that's cool! Mention my name next time, maybe I can get some referral bonus hehe :thumbs_up: EDIT: I am very thankful for the volunteers, they aren't getting anything in return other than joyrides in everyone's car :p

One thing I want to stress is that we should take advantage of this while we can, sounds like from what I heard, it's not real certain how long they are going to have access to that airfield..... :( I encourage all of you guys to go to as many events as you can afford. I know, it's not cheap, you eat tires and drink gas... but autocrossing is a lot cheaper than a full track day.... esp when the closest track is like 100 miles away from most of us.

I sent Dennis Neff a thank you:



Hello Dennis,
I attended the car Control Course on Saturday, and just wanted to thank you and all the people that made this event so great. My freinds and I had a blast ! I had the red Camaro, and was with the GTOs , Cadi and RX7 guys. It was a honor to be included in your Porsche event. I look forward to your future events.
Thank You,
Paul Galante

Got this back,


Hello Paul,

Glad your group had a blast at the PCA_OCR Drivers' Car Control Clinic sponsored by Walters Porsche of Riverside. I enjoyed watching you & your American-muscle red Camaro negotiate the exercises. You even brought your own cheering section complete with canine - a Chihuahua?

Thanks for your kudos to our excellent team of volunteer instructors and event organizers. We welcome you & your friends at any of our future events to include auto crosses & drivers education track events. Follow our events and sign-up at http://pcaocr.motorsportreg.com/. Hope to see your group at our next event.

Regards,

Dennis Neff