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SeanPlunk
09-25-2011, 10:48 PM
The Veyron is a straight beast:

The Two Second Club -- Bugatti, Nissan and Porsche - YouTube

Shaolin Crane
09-26-2011, 01:23 AM
Cost for cost, parts availability and downright love for ford, i'd rather take this
http://youtu.be/71eZ-0HDqS0

Vettezuki
09-26-2011, 01:27 AM
In that world, cost is totally irrelevant. It falls into the "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" end of the world. And, as much as I love Ford more and more, and even personally prefer the Agera R for overall style and personality to the Veyron, the Veyron is a seriously bad motherfucker. And who knows prices are falling on standard models. Why, I think you can get one for as little as $750k now. What's going to be more interesting is to see what the next Gen SSC can really do compared to the Bugatti. :huh:

Shaolin Crane
09-26-2011, 01:42 AM
Sure, 750k may be relatively cheap compared to its original purchase price, but the ubb mustang is something i could build, and could have a real good chance of affording.

Besides, you gotta hand it to the stang for romping the buggatti off the line, and man the way it sounded bouncing off the limiter makes my pants tight

Vettezuki
09-26-2011, 02:21 AM
Sure, 750k may be relatively cheap compared to its original purchase price, but the ubb mustang is something i could build, and could have a real good chance of affording.

Besides, you gotta hand it to the stang for romping the buggatti off the line, and man the way it sounded bouncing off the limiter makes my pants tight

Sure. But could you do it 50 times in a row, then hand the keys to grandma to to go grocery shopping? This is the mystical level the Veyron has hit. Astronomical speed, repeatability, reliability, and totally benign driving characteristics. To say nothing of total refinement in every category and exclusivity.

Shaolin Crane
09-26-2011, 04:53 AM
Sure. But could you do it 50 times in a row, then hand the keys to grandma to to go grocery shopping? This is the mystical level the Veyron has hit. Astronomical speed, repeatability, reliability, and totally benign driving characteristics. To say nothing of total refinement in every category and exclusivity.

I dont care about grandma, im talking about what i want :smack:

Reliability is also a meh, tires that only last 1000 miles isnt very reliable

Vettezuki
09-26-2011, 05:07 AM
. . . Reliability is also a meh, tires that only last 1000 miles isnt very reliable

I have no idea where you got the 1,000 mile life span from, but tires and brakes are consumables and have nothing to do with drive line reliability. Also a drag race is no where near as hard on an engine system as a sustained high speed run. Ask a bunch of Termi owners. . .

Shaolin Crane
09-26-2011, 05:14 AM
I thought the tires were only good for 1000 miles at a time :huh: , and far less if ever used at top speed

I'm not saying its not an absolute beast, but its also ugly, expensive, and unrealistic

Shaolin Crane
09-26-2011, 10:15 AM
Ok so i was slightly off, 2500 miles and $60000 and 37 miles if you run top speed, thats a huge reliability and safety risk if you want to push the car ever and you've already put 1000 miles on them, sure i'd love to have the money where when i shit i have rolls of $100 bills to wipe with but its still absolutely retarded
http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2010/01/19/does-owning-a-bugatti-veyron-cost-as-much-as-a-private-jet/

Vettezuki
09-26-2011, 12:45 PM
Ok so i was slightly off, 2500 miles and $60000 and 37 miles if you run top speed, thats a huge reliability and safety risk if you want to push the car ever and you've already put 1000 miles on them, sure i'd love to have the money where when i shit i have rolls of $100 bills to wipe with but its still absolutely retarded
http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2010/01/19/does-owning-a-bugatti-veyron-cost-as-much-as-a-private-jet/

37 miles at a top speed of over 250mph in >4,000lb car = unbelievable engineering marvel.

The price is irrelevant at this level.

It's realistic . . . because they sold all of them at their asking price . . . . in reality.

You might be the only person on planet earth who thinks it's ugly.

Shaolin Crane
09-26-2011, 02:22 PM
I know for a fact im not alone with it being fucking ugly, when it comes down to it, i think the car is absolutely retarded, engineering marvel sure, but still fucking stupid none the less

Vettezuki
09-26-2011, 02:33 PM
I know for a fact im not alone with it being fucking ugly, when it comes down to it, i think the car is absolutely retarded, engineering marvel sure, but still fucking stupid none the less

"You're just wrong" - Sean Plunkett

Sonic03SVT
09-26-2011, 05:56 PM
im with him. car is gross looking. fast? yes. well engineered? undeniably. Ugly? absolutely.

Vettezuki
09-26-2011, 07:34 PM
im with him. car is gross looking. fast? yes. well engineered? undeniably. Ugly? absolutely.

It's not my personal taste, but I have no comprehension how anyone could make an even vaguely rational case for "ugly". It's aesthetics, which is almost always pointless to argue, but seriously . . .


Not pretty. . .

http://images.usedcheapcars.org/used-pontiac/2005-pontiac-aztek-suv-awd-pontiac-3-4l-6-cylinder-4-speed-automatic/2005_pontiac_aztek-pic-43198-ucc.jpg


Ugly?? Why? Because it doesn't have an enormous and totally undefined rear end that Americans find so interesting. :smack:

http://www.thesupercars.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/2009-bugatti-164-veyron-grand-sport-on-the-road.jpg

Shaolin Crane
09-26-2011, 08:23 PM
im with him. car is gross looking. fast? yes. well engineered? undeniably. Ugly? absolutely.

We need to sit down for a root beer someday soon :thumbs_up:

Cause i'd still like to take your car for a spin, i'll update my old thread as to why soon.

enkeivette
09-27-2011, 03:11 PM
Wow, I didn't know a Bugati was 9 second stock car. That's crazy.

Leedom
09-28-2011, 01:37 PM
Not pretty. . .

http://images.usedcheapcars.org/used-pontiac/2005-pontiac-aztek-suv-awd-pontiac-3-4l-6-cylinder-4-speed-automatic/2005_pontiac_aztek-pic-43198-ucc.jpg


I saw one of those at the service station and just kind of wondered why would you repair it? :smack:

silverscmustang
09-28-2011, 03:44 PM
I gotta say, I think its ugly too. I think its mostly the grille that ruins it for me. I know you gotta have some heritage in a car like that but I just dont think the grille matches the rest of the car.

Shaolin Crane
09-28-2011, 03:51 PM
Yup, looks like an anal rape victim from the front