View Full Version : UH_OH ! 2011 Mustang trans a problem.
kdracer73
05-12-2011, 08:19 AM
http://jalopnik.com/5792482/faulty-chinese+built-transmissions-plague-new-ford-mustang
Some of the Mustang forums are filling up with complaints.
Slipping clutches
Clutch failing completely
Warped flywheels
Sheared pins
Clutch plate disintegration
Slave cylinder failure
Release bearing disintegration
Rough shifting
Hard to engage 1st and 2nd gears
Grinding, banging, and clunking sounds from the transmission
The 6-speed manual is built in China and the clutch assemblies are built in Turkey.
silverscmustang
05-12-2011, 08:40 AM
yup, mine was having issues but they did a temporary friction modifier and it has been great ever since. just waiting for the TSB
enkeivette
05-12-2011, 12:51 PM
The 6-speed manual is built in China
FAIL
Vettezuki
05-12-2011, 05:58 PM
It fails because it fails, not because of where it's built .
Leedom
05-12-2011, 05:58 PM
The company I work for imports almost everything we sell from China and let me tell you... most of their workmanship and competence is crap to put it mildly.
We have to explain things to our factories like we would a 1st grader and they still fuck it up!
Ryridesmotox
05-13-2011, 01:42 AM
The company I work for imports almost everything we sell from China and let me tell you... most of their workmanship and competence is crap to put it mildly.
We have to explain things to our factories like we would a 1st grader and they still fuck it up!
Thats what happens when you work in a communist country and get paid $5 a day. Thank GOD for free market economies, 2 speed powerglides, 4 speed m-22s.
By the way is this doing this under stock power or with high performance mods?
Vettezuki
05-13-2011, 02:15 AM
I work for a Japanese company with the highest manufacturing standards and procedures for what we do in the world. We have factories in China (and elsewhere) and they turn out product as good as anyone. Actually, when comparing some of the product they put out to the now closed American plant, it's better. That's what my American technician frond who told me, a red blooded Made in the USA kind of guy who was not happy to admit it.
Any American who simply equates China with junk or inability is going to be in for a rude surprise sooner rather than later. Communism is a blip on China's historical radar and it's a very odd form at that. In certain ways, they have a more free pro-entrepreneur market than we do.
IMF Predicts end of Age of America in 2016 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1380486/The-Age-America-ends-2016-IMF-predicts-year-Chinas-economy-surpass-US.html)
It doesn't mean we snap off and sink into the sea by any means, but the age of "we're no. 1, we're no.1" is winding down. The people's of China are unbelievably hungry, hard working, and optimistic about their future. And unlike us, are making *mostly* intelligent long term moves, like buying up distressed capital assets and sources for raw materials. They know what leverage is and they're getting it.
injdinjn
05-13-2011, 01:29 PM
Our govt is allowing American business to get fat off our purchasing power and third world slave wages.
Chinese products = JUNK.
They probably check the first batch or two then the chinese company says "How can we make this cheaper" then the junk arrives.
I know of auto parts store owners that said no more. Buyers wanted the cheap junk and then were Po'd because it failed. The returns were over whelming. My son told me they would order 5 alternators even though they only stocked 2. Why, because the bench test would send 3 back.
Chinese bad mfg put Schwinn bicycles out of business.
Vettezuki
05-13-2011, 01:51 PM
Our govt is allowing American business to get fat off our purchasing power and third world slave wages.
Chinese products = JUNK.
They probably check the first batch or two then the chinese company says "How can we make this cheaper" then the junk arrives.
I know of auto parts store owners that said no more. Buyers wanted the cheap junk and then were Po'd because it failed. The returns were over whelming. My son told me they would order 5 alternators even though they only stocked 2. Why, because the bench test would send 3 back.
Chinese bad mfg put Schwinn bicycles out of business.
Perhaps one key difference is that we run our factories and train the staff to Japanese standards. SPC is in place and there are no differences in what comes off the line.
Interestingly, Buick has been a superior quality product within the Chinese domestic market than it has been until quite recently, in its home market of the US.
There shouldn't really be any barriers at all between trade amongst people around the globe. The exploitation stuff is demonstrably wrong and frankly Marxist in basic theory. Specialization and division of labor is the essence of production efficiency in high order economies; absolute and relative advantages of regions should always be free to float if maximization of total utility is your goal.
Chuck
05-13-2011, 08:34 PM
Ben, I think your company is an exception to the rule. Generally speaking Chinese products are completely SUB PAR. Yeah they make the fuck out of finger traps but...
jedhead
05-14-2011, 01:24 AM
Quality of the products has to do with the process involved in making the products not where they are made. Japanese stuff were pretty shabby in the early 1950's. Then a man W. Edwards Deming came to Japan and taught them Statistical Process Control methods which reduced cost and increase quality of the products. I am sure Ben's company is using these methods at their plants in China.
Bob
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