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Gary Wells
02-17-2011, 06:23 AM
I just bought a new Wilson Combat Classic Super Grade a couple of Tuesdays ago and just picked it up from Fowler Gun Room last Sat. Nice gun. Actually a very beautiful gun. Black over stainless, all hand fitted, all bullet proof parts, naturally .45 auto. Haven't shot it yet, just changed the spring down to 14 lb. for target light load status. Came with a 17 lb. installed. I'm kicking around a Nighthawk too. Pretty broke now, and will be for a while.

Chuck
02-17-2011, 08:30 AM
:need_pics:

Chuck
02-17-2011, 08:30 AM
No, but seriously I want to see it.

Gary Wells
02-17-2011, 11:52 AM
:need_pics:

I totally agree with you, Chuck, but I don't currently have a camera set-up for my computer. I shoot several times a week at the Firing Line in Huntington Beach. I generally shoot at opening time and am out within a half-hour or so. Let me know if you want to come by and check it out sometime. I probably won't always have it with me, as I alternate between several other .45's. I might be able to get a buddy to take a couple of pics this weekend. I generally shoot with a buddy Sunday mornings at 10:00 AM & we're out by about 10:45 AM or so.

jedhead
02-17-2011, 12:22 PM
I sold my Tussey Custom .45 to a friend many years ago, he kept raising the offer until I said yes. I have been dreaming of buying a Les Baer Custom .45 for a while. I have been shooting for many years.

Bob

Gary Wells
02-17-2011, 03:40 PM
I sold my Tussey Custom .45 to a friend many years ago, he kept raising the offer until I said yes. I have been dreaming of buying a Les Baer Custom .45 for a while. I have been shooting for many years.

Bob

Bob:
I knew Terry pretty well and had a few of his guns years back. I have a Les Baer Premier II, bob, and you are welcome to meet me at the range and you can shoot it. It is not for sale, but if you have never shot a Baer PII, you should do so. You would, naturally, have to use my ammo.

Gary Wells
02-17-2011, 03:42 PM
No, but seriously I want to see it.

Something tells me you did a Dunn & Bradstreet on it and looked up the price. That would explain why you want to see it.

Chuck
02-17-2011, 04:58 PM
Something tells me you did a Dunn & Bradstreet on it and looked up the price. That would explain why you want to see it.

I did not, but now I really want to see it. I bought my Sig .45 form Fowler I know they are priced a little high. Though I think its worth it for the how helpful the staff is. I would love to get out to the range with you, Guy (Shaolin Crane) has been asking me. I have no time though, we do need to set up another MG range day!!!

jedhead
02-17-2011, 05:51 PM
Bob:
I knew Terry pretty well and had a few of his guns years back. I have a Les Baer Premier II, bob, and you are welcome to meet me at the range and you can shoot it. It is not for sale, but if you have never shot a Baer PII, you should do so. You would, naturally, have to use my ammo.

Gary,
I will take you up on your offer when I am ready. I will be busy the next few weekends. I am also considering getting a good forged 1911 to send to Terry to perform a tune and add a few features. My friend, who bought the gun from me later, and I went to the desert for a "Hogan's Alley" type shoot over a weekend. We shot 4000 rounds of reloaded semi-wadcutters over the weekend. No one miss fire and no jams. At the end of the day I just sprayed some break free and cycle the gun. I shot well over 20000 rounds through the gun before I sold it. I took it to Terry twice for a through cleaning and tune up. It was the only .45 that would chamber a empty case. Terry used to come down here to OC at the gun show, but I guess he is staying in Reno these days. Thanks for the offer.
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Bob

Vettezuki
02-17-2011, 06:15 PM
When I get a little scratch, I'll be picking up a .45. Probably just gonna start with a dirt simple Rock Island, right off the original Colt dies as I understand.

Gary Wells
02-17-2011, 08:06 PM
I did not, but now I really want to see it. I bought my Sig .45 form Fowler I know they are priced a little high. Though I think its worth it for the how helpful the staff is. I would love to get out to the range with you, Guy (Shaolin Crane) has been asking me. I have no time though, we do need to set up another MG range day!!!
Don't even get me started on Fowler, I think the world of them, I don't think that they are high compared to the level of integrity that they maintain. If you think that they are high, go try their sister ship. Fowler's are good people, they're very helpful without making you think that if you don't buy something within the next 2 minutes, they won't serve you. Their sister ship has a serious 'tude problem. and they, well, we will continue this conversation at a later time & place. Fowler's treated me right every time that I have visited them, the other place did not.

Gary Wells
02-18-2011, 12:05 PM
I took the WC Classic SG to the range yesterday and put 15 rounds through it.
All reloads, all 3.4 grains of old Hercules Bullseye backing a 185 grain button LSWC. The gun functioned flawlessly. 5 rounds through one of my old Metalform mags, another 5 rounds through another of my old Metalform mags, and the last 5 through the Wilson Elite Tactical Mags. I not only love the gun, I also love the ET Mags. I only tried one ET mag but I could not believe how smooth and effortless the magazine was to load. Now I need to order some of the ET mags with the metal plate floors. It was really a great experience. It even improved my shooting somewhat. My hats off to WC and their gang for developing such a fine firearm and mag. I am running a 14 lb spring in it currently, which is what I am running in my Baer & Hoag longslide. I only wish that I had money for another. It would be.........? I dunno, but I would love another.

Gary Wells
02-18-2011, 12:11 PM
I took the WC Classic SG to the range yesterday and put 15 rounds through it.
All reloads, all 3.4 grains of old Hercules Bullseye backing a 185 grain button LSWC. The gun functioned flawlessly. 5 rounds through one of my old Metalform mags, another 5 rounds through another of my old Metalform mags, and the last 5 through the Wilson Elite Tactical Mags. I not only love the gun, I also love the ET Mags. I only tried one ET mag but I could not believe how smooth and effortless the magazine was to load. Now I need to order some of the ET mags with the metal plate floors. It was really a great experience. It even improved my shooting somewhat. My hats off to WC and their gang for developing such a fine firearm and mag. I am running a 14 lb spring in it currently, which is what I am running in my Baer & Hoag longslide. I only wish that I had money for another. It would be.........? I dunno, but I would love another.

Shaolin Crane
02-18-2011, 04:53 PM
I did not, but now I really want to see it. I bought my Sig .45 form Fowler I know they are priced a little high. Though I think its worth it for the how helpful the staff is. I would love to get out to the range with you, Guy (Shaolin Crane) has been asking me. I have no time though, we do need to set up another MG range day!!!

Yeah, get that setup. :thumbs_up:

Shaolin Crane
02-18-2011, 04:55 PM
When I get a little scratch, I'll be picking up a .45. Probably just gonna start with a dirt simple Rock Island, right off the original Colt dies as I understand.

You're always welcome to use my hardware until then, or you can let me source a used springer like i did, i picked up mine for $400 :D of course i did the other goodies to it.

Vettezuki
02-18-2011, 05:12 PM
You're always welcome to use my hardware until then, or you can let me source a used springer like i did, i picked up mine for $400 :D of course i did the other goodies to it.

Thanks man. If I bought a gun right now my wife would shoot me with it. But I won't be poor forever . . . I think.

In other news my brother is about done with his AR.

Chuck
02-18-2011, 06:09 PM
Thanks man. If I bought a gun right now my wife would shoot me with it. But I won't be poor forever . . . I think.

In other news my brother is about done with his AR.

Do what I did with my parents, DON'T tell her!!! :uh:

Chuck
02-18-2011, 06:11 PM
The few times I have been in the stockaid, I have had good experiences. So I can't really say anything bad about em. But I do like Fowler and its closer.

Gary Wells
02-18-2011, 07:34 PM
The few times I have been in the stockaid, I have had good experiences. So I can't really say anything bad about em. But I do like Fowler and its closer.

Even though they are owned by the same, they are run totally different. Ever compare prices at the 2? Even the prices are different, and Fowler's prices are definitely cheaper. I asked at the Stockade once to see some Dillon Calipers. They advised that they were out of stock on the $28.00 Dillons, but they had some $58.00 RCBS in stock. When i asked Fowler's if they had the Dillons in stock, they replied "No, but we'll be happy to order some for you". They didn't even try and push me towards the pricier ones. Fowler is much farther for me, but they are friendlier, cheaper, and not so pushy. I cannot say the same about the other one from my experiences with them. Fowler gets my vote.

Vettezuki
02-19-2011, 03:51 AM
Do what I did with my parents, DON'T tell her!!! :uh:

I live with my wife. Anyway, it's no problem with me having toys and playing around, it's just prioities. Ain't scratch in the play bucket right now. That's all. Plus friends and family are armed to the teeth, so I can go out and snap off some rounds for giggles without a big cost. When I get into it, I will do it like I do everything, OCD style.

Gary Wells
02-19-2011, 06:12 AM
http://www.wilsoncombat.com/p_supergrade.htm

Shaolin Crane
02-19-2011, 03:43 PM
I live with my wife. Anyway, it's no problem with me having toys and playing around, it's just prioities. Ain't scratch in the play bucket right now. That's all. Plus friends and family are armed to the teeth, so I can go out and snap off some rounds for giggles without a big cost. When I get into it, I will do it like I do everything, OCD style.
Like going out and buying tons of reloading equipment and no firearm to test with :p

Vettezuki
02-19-2011, 03:49 PM
Like going out and buying tons of reloading equipment and no firearm to test with :p

Yeah, like that. Chuck and Aaron do the testing. I like technical stuff and enjoy the reloading process almost for its own sake. Someday, I could see getting into the nutty level of loading precision rifle rounds.

Gary Wells
02-19-2011, 06:39 PM
Yeah, like that. Chuck and Aaron do the testing. I like technical stuff and enjoy the reloading process almost for its own sake. Someday, I could see getting into the nutty level of loading precision rifle rounds.

I have also gotten to the point that I like reloading as much as I like shooting.

jedhead
02-20-2011, 12:21 AM
I did both for many years. I stopped shooting and reloading in the mid nineties. I wish that I did not sell all my reloading stuff. I had a RCBS and dillion. I reloaded .38 Super, .45ACP and 9mm. I mostly reloaded .45 ACP. I had over 4000 .45ACP cases at one time. I had dies for .233, .308 and 30-06 but I never reloaded them.

Bob

Gary Wells
02-20-2011, 07:24 AM
I'm strictly a slut for .45 autos. I've got 4 of them now, The new Wilson Combat Classic SG, a Springfield Trophy Match with a reliability package done by Terry Tussey, A Les Baer Premier II, & a custom Jim Hoag long-slide built on a very early series 70 frame & slide.
Going back into the mid '90's, I collected Detonics and bought everything marked with the early Detonics name attached to it. I had about 70 Detonics in various models & calibers. Most were 45 auto, but I also had .38 super, 9mm, & .451 Detonics Mag. I sold all in the late '90's to early '00's, excluding the three shooting guns.