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SeanPlunk
03-23-2009, 10:59 PM
Link to article (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0903_2010_chevrolet_camaro_ss_vs_2009_dodge_ch allenger_rt_vs_2010_ford_mustang_gt/index.html)

Finish Lines

Going into this test, and knowing the basic stats, we had an inkling how it might turn out. (All three cars, by the way, eke out impressive and nearly identical fuel-economy results -- though the Mustang's lack of a six-speed means it finishes last on EPA.) Never did we guess, though, how close the overall finish would turn out to be.

In third place, the Dodge Challenger R/T. Third of three, but hardly last. As MacKenzie well sums up: "Hugely endearing personality. Even though the Challenger starts to fall apart dynamically above 7/10ths you can't help but like the big guy. It's sorta like a Heritage Soft-Tail Harley; a carefully crafted and easy to own reminder of a simpler, sunnier America." Astutely executed, fast, and sit-back comfortable, the Challenger is the pony you'd ride for a 50-state tour. On the downside, the orange bruiser simply can't carve with the precision of its rivals, and though it starts with a mid-pack base sticker ($30,945), adding the good stuff (six-speed manual, 3.92 rear axle, limited-slip diff, 20-in. wheels and tires, etc.) pushed the price of our tester to a trio-topping $38,270.

Finishing in second place . . . the Ford Mustang GT. Mind you, this was a photo-finish. The Mustang with Track Pack blew us all away with its sublime steering, incredible front-end grip, stylish cockpit, and beauteous V-8. As Loh notes, "That's what most impressed me: Ford's two competitors had the advantage of sampling 45 years of Mustang DNA, yet they still couldn't pull out a runaway win." The Mustang scores well on value, too: base price for the GT is $28,845, and with Premium package, Track Pack, security package, and the comfort group, our test car totaled $34,330. The Ford might even have scored an upset, except it cannot match the Camaro's unfailing poise, its breathtaking power, or its styling drama. Those quality issues sure didn't help, either.

And so . . . our winner, the Prime Pony of the 21st Century is . . . the 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS. Considering all the ways GM could easily have got this car wrong, it's nothing short of a triumph how unquestionably the company got it right. The Camaro might trail the Mustang in handling sharpness, and there's no doubt it finishes last for cabin and trunk volume, but, well, you don't pick your pony for the size of its saddlebags. Graced with massive power, excellent efficiency, unfailing refinement, and show-stopping looks, the Camaro SS nails every essential for its segment. What's more, it's priced to steal. Base sticker for the 1SS manual: just $30,995. With the Boston Acoustics audio package, our cloth-seat tester climbed only to $31,490. Go nuts with the options pencil -- adding leather, power sunroof, ground effects, six-speed auto, and more stuff you really don't need -- and you can nudge the SS just over $40K.

So there you have it: Chevrolet claims the ponycar title, circa 2009. Now, go to it, Hatfields, McCoys, and HatCoys. We've been waiting 35 years to witness once again perhaps the all-time greatest feud in Autoland. Where's my cigar? Ah, there's the opening bell!

SeanPlunk
03-23-2009, 11:04 PM
A link to the numbers. (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0903_2010_chevrolet_camaro_ss_vs_2009_dodge_ch allenger_rt_vs_2010_ford_mustang_gt/specs_and_road_test_data.html)

And some pictures:

http://image.motortrend.com/f/17120191/112_0903_02z+2010_american_muscle_car_comparison+f acing_each_other.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/17120194/112_0903_08z+2010_american_muscle_car_comparison+t rio_rear_closeup.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/17120197/112_0903_24z+2010_american_muscle_car_comparison+d odge_challenger_front.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/17120200/112_0903_18z+2010_american_muscle_car_comparison20 10_ford_mustang_gt_front.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/17120203/112_0903_13z+2010_american_muscle_car_comparison+2 010_camaro_front_view.jpg

SoCalC55
03-23-2009, 11:41 PM
Still cant wait to pull up next to a SS at a light =)

SexyLxy
03-24-2009, 09:25 AM
I'm still a challanger girl. It's the best representation of a current model that looks closest to its roots. (even though it's a FAT PIG!...I still love it).

BRUTAL64
03-24-2009, 10:10 AM
I have nothing to say.:p

SeanPlunk
03-24-2009, 10:12 AM
Still cant wait to pull up next to a SS at a light =)

With a good driver, it should take you. A car pulling 111mph traps is no joke :judge:

Leedom
03-24-2009, 01:27 PM
With a good driver, it should take you. A car pulling 111mph traps is no joke :judge:

So Sean what Sean is trying to say is that if he (SeanPlunk) were driving it you could take it otherwise no you could not.

SeanPlunk
03-24-2009, 02:01 PM
http://image.motortrend.com/f/15324392/112_0903_21z+2010_american_muscle_car_comparison+2 010_ford_mustang_gt_steering_wheel.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/17120158/112_0903_27z+2010_american_muscle_car_comparison+d odge_challenger_steering_wheel.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/17120170/112_0903_12z+2010_american_muscle_car_comparison+2 010_camaro_steering_wheel.jpg


http://image.motortrend.com/f/15324389/112_0903_20z+2010_american_muscle_car_comparison+2 010_ford_mustang_gt_engine.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/17120161/112_0903_28z+2010_american_muscle_car_comparison+d odge_challenger_engine.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/17120173/112_0903_12z+2010_american_muscle_car_comparison+2 010_camaro_v8_engine.jpg

SeanPlunk
03-24-2009, 02:13 PM
So Sean what Sean is trying to say is that if he (SeanPlunk) were driving it you could take it otherwise no you could not.

Judging by the 1/4 times you've run so far, the new Camaro in your hands would also be a 13.5+sec car :p

SeanPlunk
03-24-2009, 11:50 PM
So gentleman, if you were buying tomorrow what's your order? For me it would be:

1) Camaro
2) Challenger
3) Mustang

Now, if the Mustang really gets the 400hp 5.0 DOHC engine next year then it moves to the top of the list :bigthumbsup:

Vettezuki
03-25-2009, 01:51 AM
So gentleman, if you were buying tomorrow what's your order? For me it would be:

1) Camaro
2) Challenger
3) Mustang

Now, if the Mustang really gets the 400hp 5.0 DOHC engine next year then it moves to the top of the list :bigthumbsup:

Order agreed.

BRUTAL64
03-25-2009, 05:33 PM
Order agreed.

Yea, sure, you say that now.:censored:

Chate
03-25-2009, 07:44 PM
Camaro
Mustang
Challenger

Iono why the challenger doesnt do much for me in the looks department :(

SeanPlunk
03-25-2009, 09:39 PM
Camaro
Mustang
Challenger

Iono why the challenger doesnt do much for me in the looks department :(

It's a big car, but otherwise I really like it.

SoCalC55
03-26-2009, 01:56 AM
Camaro
Mustang
Challenger

Iono why the challenger doesnt do much for me in the looks department :(
Yep Yep

I absolutely loved that Challenger at the meet but damn its gigantic!


pft we'll see, I get to be cocky until I get rocked by an SS :crutches:

keithc
03-31-2009, 04:47 PM
So gentleman, if you were buying tomorrow what's your order? For me it would be:

1) Camaro
2) Challenger
3) Mustang

Now, if the Mustang really gets the 400hp 5.0 DOHC engine next year then it moves to the top of the list :bigthumbsup:

:iagree:

I wasn't a fan of the Challenger at first (looks-wise, at least) until I saw one in person and it's flippin sweet Napoleon. Although I'm just a bit biased towards the Camaro.

enkeivette
03-31-2009, 05:25 PM
The Camaro came out ahead of the Mustang? Surprising, it's not like that happened with the last gen of Camaros and Mustangs, and the gen before that... and before that. :leaving:

And who gives a crap about a 400hp Mustang, I needs me some LS9 in a new Camaro. :D

SeanPlunk
03-31-2009, 05:31 PM
The Camaro came out ahead of the Mustang? Surprising, it's not like that happened with the last gen of Camaros and Mustangs, and the gen before that... and before that. :leaving:

And who gives a crap about a 400hp Mustang, I needs me some LS9 in a new Camaro. :D

GM won't last long enough to make that happen. Plus, it's probably not a good idea to make a muscle car that gets 14mpg if you want any hope of getting more government money...