So I went to look at two old cars today

[big2bird]

One was a 61 T-Bird in so-so shape.
The other one was a 1974 Ferrari 365 (GT4/2+2) in showroom condition.
24,000 miles, and flawless. I almost crapped when she offered me commision to sell it for her. (Wanna guess what my reply was?)LOL
Pictures are in my album.:D

[SeanPlunk]

One was a 61 T-Bird in so-so shape.
The other one was a 1974 Ferrari 365 (GT4/2+2) in showroom condition.
24,000 miles, and flawless. I almost crapped when she offered me commision to sell it for her. (Wanna guess what my reply was?)LOL
Pictures are in my album.:D

That's awesome - you should buy it :D

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/PICT0015.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/PICT0016.JPG

Where do you go to sell something like that, something like the DuPont Registry?

[big2bird]

That's awesome - you should buy it :D

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/PICT0015.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/PICT0016.JPG

Where do you go to sell something like that, something like the DuPont Registry?

I couldn't afford the tags and license.:laugh:

Sell? I have to find the right buyer, and it will take some time. Luckily, she is in no hurry, and willing to do the right thing. IE, let me service it/detail it, and research it.
There were 470 of these made over 4 years, most came to the US, and only 2 German Verts. Is it rare, or is it desirable? I just don't know yet. I have feelers out all over the U.S. already, and have some more people to check with. Most of the people I DID know that had these things have passed on. (Dammit)
Post a pic of the engine. It looks like a nightmare to me. DO Twin cam V-12, fuel injected plumbers nightmare.:suicide:

[SeanPlunk]

Bird,

I'm not sure if this will help or not, but I post on this Ferrari forum from time to time and they seem to be a nice group overall. Here is a link to the 365 specific section. (http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=89) You probably know all of this already, but I just thought I'd pass it along in case it helps :drink:

[Vettezuki]

I couldn't afford the tags and license.:laugh:

Sell? I have to find the right buyer, and it will take some time. Luckily, she is in no hurry, and willing to do the right thing. IE, let me service it/detail it, and research it.
There were 470 of these made over 4 years, most came to the US, and only 2 German Verts. Is it rare, or is it desirable? I just don't know yet. I have feelers out all over the U.S. already, and have some more people to check with. Most of the people I DID know that had these things have passed on. (Dammit)
Post a pic of the engine. It looks like a nightmare to me. DO Twin cam V-12, fuel injected plumbers nightmare.:suicide:

I forgot his name, but the owner of F40 Motorsports sees to be one of the super Ferrari specialists. He buys and sells.

http://f40.com/

My mom's cousin is (was?) a Ferrari engine mechanic. Very interesting quiet fellow, working out in the woods in Wisconsin.

[big2bird]

Bird,

I'm not sure if this will help or not, but I post on this Ferrari forum from time to time and they seem to be a nice group overall. Here is a link to the 365 specific section. (http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=89) You probably know all of this already, but I just thought I'd pass it along in case it helps :drink:

Thank you Sean. I joined this morning to get some more input. I learned already the engine is from a 1983 400I, because it is injected. I ASSUME this will greatly devalue the car. The original engine had 6 DOCE carbs.:bang:

[big2bird]

I forgot his name, but the owner of F40 Motorsports sees to be one of the super Ferrari specialists. He buys and sells.

http://f40.com/


Thank you Ben. I have e-mailed him this AM.

My professor friend at CSUF wrenched on them in the 70's as well.

[SexyLxy]

I wonder if Vince, his father, or the museum would be interested. Sean, maybe you can question Vince to see if they show any interest.

Question, why is she looking to sell?

PS - Anyone got Jay Lenos email....someone drop him a line JK

[SeanPlunk]

Thank you Sean. I joined this morning to get some more input. I learned already the engine is from a 1983 400I, because it is injected. I ASSUME this will greatly devalue the car. The original engine had 6 DOCE carbs.:bang:

That's too bad - is their any possibility the owner kept the original carbs in a box somewhere?

[SeanPlunk]

I wonder if Vince, his father, or the museum would be interested. Sean, maybe you can question Vince to see if they show any interest.

Question, why is she looking to sell?

PS - Anyone got Jay Lenos email....someone drop him a line JK

I think the museum is more into the Ferrari supercars. As I recall they have two F50's, an F40, etc.

[big2bird]

That's too bad - is their any possibility the owner kept the original carbs in a box somewhere?

Nope. The engine was changed in 1983. They bought it in 1991.

[Vettezuki]

Thank you Sean. I joined this morning to get some more input. I learned already the engine is from a 1983 400I, because it is injected. I ASSUME this will greatly devalue the car. The original engine had 6 DOCE carbs.:bang:

I would assume you're correct. Moreover, the market for the car probably is much smaller too. I get the impression most of F boys almost regard their cars as stock or something. They basically expect appreciation. But that appreciation seems to very highly dependent on total originality. Anyway, you'll find the right guys to give you actual information. ;)

[big2bird]

PS - Anyone got Jay Lenos email....someone drop him a line JK

Jay likes Lambos. ;)

[big2bird]

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t196/big2bird/Ferrari/

[big2bird]

Well, we took the car down to Ferrari of O.C. today. They are resealing the water pump, and tuning her up. Then off to the detailers, and hopefully into the Newport Beach Ferrari Showroom in time for the Lido Yacht Show.
(Got to sit in a 430)Sweet.
Newport RR moved, so they are trying to move a couple $1,000,000 cars into there, to make room for the "oldie but goodie."
They were totally blown away by the condition of this car.:thumbs_up:

[Vettezuki]

Well, we took the car down to Ferrari of O.C. today. They are resealing the water pump, and tuning her up. Then off to the detailers, and hopefully into the Newport Beach Ferrari Showroom in time for the Lido Yacht Show.
(Got to sit in a 430)Sweet.
Newport RR moved, so they are trying to move a couple $1,000,000 cars into there, to make room for the "oldie but goodie."
They were totally blown away by the condition of this car.:thumbs_up:

What'd they say about the engine?

[big2bird]

What'd they say about the engine?

They are going to give me an estimate Monday. Glad its' not my car. However, if it was, I would do my own work, and it would not be running crappy.

[Vettezuki]

They are going to give me an estimate Monday. Glad its' not my car. However, if it was, I would do my own work, and it would not be running crappy.

I meant more in terms of general valuation? In other words if an all original cost X, what's this one potentially going to fetch relatively speaking?

[big2bird]

I meant more in terms of general valuation? In other words if an all original cost X, what's this one potentially going to fetch relatively speaking?

I see. It's a "nich" collector car. There is quite a bit to how they appraise these things, and like real estate, it's worth what you can get for it,.
That being said, there are a few select guys out there that eat a car like this up, just BECAUSE it is a vert, and one of only two sent to Germany by Ferrari for the vert conversion that year. The engine change seems to matter very little.

SO, the asking price is starting at $100,000.00. (I get a piece of that).:nuts:


It was a blast driving from Norwalk to Costa Mesa today. The owner followed me down.

[Vettezuki]

I see. It's a "nich" collector car. There is quite a bit to how they appraise these things, and like real estate, it's worth what you can get for it,.
That being said, there are a few select guys out there that eat a car like this up, just BECAUSE it is a vert, and one of only two sent to Germany by Ferrari for the vert conversion that year. The engine change seems to matter very little.

SO, the asking price is starting at $100,000.00. (I get a piece of that).:nuts:


It was a blast driving from Norwalk to Costa Mesa today. The owner followed me down.

That engine has a truly great sound. Hope you get a nice piece of the $100g. Did you bring the owner a tangerine tree or something? (Inside joke.)

[big2bird]

That engine has a truly great sound. Hope you get a nice piece of the $100g. Did you bring the owner a tangerine tree or something? (Inside joke.)

Nope, just my left wing personna, and my UNION educated skills.:rolling: