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AARP
12-14-2010, 07:05 PM
Hey guys,
So, how to write this and not make it sound like a job interview...
Basically, I went along with John AKA blackax in his CTS-V on the latest GMR ride and had a great time. I'm a newbie when it comes to cars and just got my license in October. I'm currently looking for something that can keep up with you guys on the road, but won't break the bank considering insurance for a 16 year old male is crazy expensive.

I can't wait to see some of those vids from the ride! I have a couple photos I'll post to the thread.

EDIT: Crap, I forgot to put my name's Sean.

Redondo Jon
12-14-2010, 07:55 PM
Hi Sean. Clever screen name. You’re a brave soul riding with John. (just messin with you John, your burnout at the bottom was awesome)

Vettezuki
12-14-2010, 08:04 PM
Welcome aboard. As for recommendation, a pretty decent choice might be a Cobalt SS. Great handling car, fast enough to be fun, insurance is reasonable (I think), etc. In stock trim they're ho-hum looking, but decked out, I think they look pretty good.

AARP
12-14-2010, 08:14 PM
Hi Sean. Clever screen name. You’re a brave soul riding with John. (just messin with you John, your burnout at the bottom was awesome)

If you think that was awesome, you should've seen what happened a couple minutes later :censored:

Welcome aboard. As for recommendation, a pretty decent choice might be a Cobalt SS. Great handling car, fast enough to be fun, insurance is reasonable (I think), etc. In stock trim they're ho-hum looking, but decked out, I think they look pretty good.
An interesting choice, but usually the name of the game with insurance is the older the cheaper. I don't think the Cobalt has been around long enough to get those prices down.

I'm currently trying to convince the parents that $230 a month to insure a 94 Z28 is reasonable :nuts:

SoCalC55
12-14-2010, 08:29 PM
Welcome Sean


ah oh more Seans.... :inout:

Vettezuki
12-14-2010, 08:29 PM
. . . I'm currently trying to convince the parents that $230 a month to insure a 94 Z28 is reasonable :nuts:

Mmm, Gen II camaro might be good. You can pick them up sorta cheap and they really are a great platform. You probably could get the insurance way down from there.

AARP
12-14-2010, 09:09 PM
Mmm, Gen II camaro might be good. You can pick them up sorta cheap and they really are a great platform. You probably could get the insurance way down from there.

I'll keep an eye out, but the ones that show up on craigslist in my ~$4000 budget are usually beaten to holy hell. If anyone finds a good car in that range be sure to lemme know.

blackax
12-14-2010, 09:23 PM
Hi Sean. Clever screen name. You’re a brave soul riding with John. (just messin with you John, your burnout at the bottom was awesome)

too bad I still had stability control on

kdracer73
12-14-2010, 10:29 PM
Welcome ! I agree, second gen Camaros are not that cheap. The " Cheap" ones are beat to hell. And every Bubba thinks it is worth it's weight in gold.
It is a good platform (for me anyway) but, the 4th gens handle and stop way better in stock form.

blackax
12-14-2010, 10:41 PM
I'm thinking a little fiero gt or a vw with a vr6 would be nice

jedhead
12-15-2010, 01:45 AM
Welcome

Bob

Chuck
12-15-2010, 04:42 PM
Welcome, Bugatti Veyron I think that would do the trick and it meets all criteria both insurance and price range.

Sonic03SVT
12-15-2010, 05:01 PM
No third-gen F-body love? Cheap car, cheap insurance, maybe a touch down on power but a great handling car with tons of aftermarket support. Plus the 87+ T/As just look good :thumbs_up:

94cobra69ss396
12-15-2010, 09:46 PM
Welcome. Start with something that doesn't have too much power at first so that you can learn to control the car. Something that can slowly be upgraded. Then start taking it to tracks like Adams Motorsports Park, Irwindale and California Speedway for the street legal drags. That way you get both the experience and a baseline to build upon to beat.

enkeivette
12-16-2010, 02:59 AM
WRX, AWD so it'll be harder for you to lose control/ total the car/ get hurt.

AARP
12-16-2010, 04:42 PM
Welcome, Bugatti Veyron I think that would do the trick and it meets all criteria both insurance and price range.

Yep, and I think this paint job would be fantastic.
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/12/2010/12/a00e0b87f343dac4503d1c897c4c998e/340x.jpg
(Oh god, the horror)

No third-gen F-body love? Cheap car, cheap insurance, maybe a touch down on power but a great handling car with tons of aftermarket support. Plus the 87+ T/As just look good :thumbs_up:

I don't think I could grow the mullet to do it justice. And interestingly my insurance hates 3rd gens as well for some reason.

No third-gen F-body love? Cheap car, cheap insurance, maybe a touch down on power but a great handling car with tons of aftermarket support. Plus the 87+ T/As just look good :thumbs_up:

Take your best shot at something around $3000. :D
WRX, AWD so it'll be harder for you to lose control/ total the car/ get hurt.
Bit too pricey.

SeanPlunk
12-16-2010, 04:52 PM
Seriously, buy this. (http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/california-172/739802-fs-88-mustang-5-0-5-speed-socal.html) He's down to $2700. It's a steal.

AARP
12-16-2010, 05:27 PM
Seriously, buy this. (http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/california-172/739802-fs-88-mustang-5-0-5-speed-socal.html) He's down to $2700. It's a steal.

Hmm, I don't know much about Fox body 'stangs but that one looks interesting. Such a small car with so much power (and cheap insurance!). Looks like he's only a city away from me, so I'll shoot him a text. Thanks Sean!

SeanPlunk
12-16-2010, 06:19 PM
Hmm, I don't know much about Fox body 'stangs but that one looks interesting. Such a small car with so much power (and cheap insurance!). Looks like he's only a city away from me, so I'll shoot him a text. Thanks Sean!

No problem.

Fox Body stangs are excellent first cars. Not too much power stock, but suspension and drivetrain parts are cheap and they're easy to work on :drink:

Vettezuki
12-16-2010, 06:55 PM
No problem.

Fox Body stangs are excellent first cars. Not too much power stock, but suspension and drivetrain parts are cheap and they're easy to work on :drink:

:iagree: and there are several people here expert on what you can do with them.

AARP
12-16-2010, 08:17 PM
K, looks like I'm going to check it out tomorrow with John. Hope it's a match!

SeanPlunk
12-16-2010, 09:08 PM
One thing to consider. If he hasn't done the smog for the car, you're going to have to and it won't pass with that offroad x-pipe. You'd have to get a stock exhaust (should be cheap) or have the smog done...

AARP
12-16-2010, 10:03 PM
One thing to consider. If he hasn't done the smog for the car, you're going to have to and it won't pass with that offroad x-pipe. You'd have to get a stock exhaust (should be cheap) or have the smog done...

Yeah, could not having a cat be a problem even if he "knows a guy" and we get it to pass?

SeanPlunk
12-16-2010, 11:30 PM
Yeah, could not having a cat be a problem even if he "knows a guy" and we get it to pass?

If it were me, I'd try to find a stock mid-pipe and put it on the car. I'm sure you can pick one up relatively cheap and then you're smog legal again (in theory).

Here is another car in your price range. (http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2057707579.html)

Check out the classified sections on these boards:
www.corral.net
www.mustangforums.com
www.stangnet.com

I found lots of potential exhaust parts for you, and also some cars for sale too ;)

SeanPlunk
12-16-2010, 11:41 PM
Ron,

It has a MAF conversion, but it's still a 4-lug. What do you think?

blackax
12-17-2010, 12:35 AM
NOOOOOO sean you cant get a ford :inout:

jedhead
12-17-2010, 04:05 AM
MAF should not be a problem if you have the proper tune. My SHO has a Lincoln 80mm MAF. I have a tune so the EEC-IV understands the curve the different MAF is outputing.

Bob

09sscalicobalt
12-17-2010, 06:32 PM
you can get a ss/sc cobalt for pretty cheap nowadays a lil more than 10k but depends on what your price range is lol

AARP
12-17-2010, 09:24 PM
No bueno on the 'stang. Too many things fishy about it. Keep the suggestions rollin'.

SeanPlunk
12-17-2010, 09:30 PM
No bueno on the 'stang. Too many things fishy about it. Keep the suggestions rollin'.

This could be a possibility? (http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2057707579.html)

AARP
12-17-2010, 10:09 PM
This could be a possibility? (http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2057707579.html)

Yep, waitin' on a call back from him. In the meantime, I've been looking at Mitsu 3000gt vr4's/Dodge stealth t/t. Seem to get nice power from those twin turbos and I could always use the AWD, haha.

SeanPlunk
12-17-2010, 10:12 PM
Yep, waitin' on a call back from him. In the meantime, I've been looking at Mitsu 3000gt vr4's/Dodge stealth t/t. Seem to get nice power from those twin turbos and I could always use the AWD, haha.

LOL, I was just looking at DSM's for you.

This one looks interesting.
(http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2118742394.html)

SeanPlunk
12-17-2010, 10:29 PM
Eclipse. (http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2102914755.html)
Nissan 300ZX (http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2112146004.html)

SeanPlunk
12-17-2010, 10:59 PM
If you want to be different.
(http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=279466556&dealer_id=9018392&car_year=1994&doors=&systime=&model=MARK8&search_lang=en&start_year=1981&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&search_type=both&distance=75&min_price=&drive=&rdm=1292651561770&marketZipError=false&advanced=&fuel=&keywords_display=&lastBeginningStartYear=1981&end_year=2012&showZipError=y&make2=&certified=&engine=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&body_code=0&transmission=&default_sort=newsortbyprice_DESC&max_mileage=&address=92807&color=&sort_type=priceDESC&max_price=4500&awsp=false&make=LINC&seller_type=b&num_records=25&cardist=13&standard=false)
This is the only RWD car Ford made with the 4.6 DOHC motor besides a Mustang. Very similar to the 99/01 Cobra motor. They can definitely be made into a great sleeper car.
(http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lincoln+mk+viii+quarter+mile&aq=f)

AARP
12-17-2010, 11:24 PM
LOL, I was just looking at DSM's for you.

This one looks interesting.
(http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2118742394.html)

Wow, that Talon looks badass. I'll be sure to call that one.

94cobra69ss396
12-17-2010, 11:27 PM
Ron,

It has a MAF conversion, but it's still a 4-lug. What do you think?

If it's an '88 California car it would have come from the factory with MAF. That was the first year for MAF and it was only in California cars. In '89 all Mustangs had MAF.

If you want to be different.
(http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=279466556&dealer_id=9018392&car_year=1994&doors=&systime=&model=MARK8&search_lang=en&start_year=1981&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&search_type=both&distance=75&min_price=&drive=&rdm=1292651561770&marketZipError=false&advanced=&fuel=&keywords_display=&lastBeginningStartYear=1981&end_year=2012&showZipError=y&make2=&certified=&engine=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&body_code=0&transmission=&default_sort=newsortbyprice_DESC&max_mileage=&address=92807&color=&sort_type=priceDESC&max_price=4500&awsp=false&make=LINC&seller_type=b&num_records=25&cardist=13&standard=false)
This is the only RWD car Ford made with the 4.6 DOHC motor besides a Mustang. Very similar to the 99/01 Cobra motor. They can definitely be made into a great sleeper car.
(http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lincoln+mk+viii+quarter+mile&aq=f)

But they're ugly and heavy.

94cobra69ss396
12-17-2010, 11:31 PM
That Eclipse looks good plus it's AWD. The only thing that bothers me is the sellers comment "and she's up and running again". This gives me the impression that he has had issues with it and has to keep fixing it and now that it's currently running he wants to dump it before something breaks again. Make sure you get the history from him and look it over really good.

AARP
12-18-2010, 01:04 AM
Wow, that Eagle Talon costs less to insure than the 88 mustang. I also get a kick outa the fact that the eclipse cost $20 a month more to insure.

Vettezuki
12-18-2010, 02:16 AM
Kinda digg'n on the Talon. They're pretty slick, and the Mitsu motor is an extraordinary platform.

kdracer73
12-18-2010, 10:40 AM
Stay away from that Lincoln ! They are prone to very expensive electronic air suspension problems.

SeanPlunk
12-18-2010, 11:25 AM
But they're ugly and heavy.

That's part of their charm :p

SeanPlunk
12-18-2010, 12:50 PM
How about this Mustang? (http://www.orangecountyhorsepower.com/forums/showthread.php?p=135970#post135970) It's not a foxbody, but it's the last year of the 5.0. They're a little heavier, but Ron can attest to how badass you can make them.

SeanPlunk
12-18-2010, 03:14 PM
Oh, and you can buy this (http://www.orangecountyhorsepower.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5939) to put on it.

Spending other people's money is awesome :)

Sonic03SVT
12-18-2010, 05:43 PM
Love love love the sn95 5.0 cars. Chassis is worlds better than a fox, and they can be made to look awful good. I seriously sometimes question having sold mine to buy the 03 cobra. My biggest car regret, ill have to do that one over someday.

AARP
12-19-2010, 11:23 PM
Went and checked out the DSM today with John. Definitely one I will be pursuing after the new year. Clean interior, tasteful mods. He's been running around 14 pounds of boost, but I'd probably want to lower that if I got it. Only a few problems:
1. Needs a new clutch. He's been though two clutches in 138k miles (bad driver?) and it's slipping real bad. Gonna have to look at how much that'll cost to replace.
2. Needs to be smogged, and it definitely won't pass with that 3" without a cat on it. Luckily he still has the stock exhaust but it needs to be put on to smog it.
3. Needs the stock front bumper, which he has, to be put on.

Now just to convince the parents (dad still doesn't think I need a car) to let me buy it. I'm paying for it in full, but they have to insure it.

SeanPlunk
12-19-2010, 11:35 PM
Went and checked out the DSM today with John. Definitely one I will be pursuing after the new year. Clean interior, tasteful mods. He's been running around 14 pounds of boost, but I'd probably want to lower that if I got it. Only a few problems:
1. Needs a new clutch. He's been though two clutches in 138k miles (bad driver?) and it's slipping real bad. Gonna have to look at how much that'll cost to replace.
2. Needs to be smogged, and it definitely won't pass with that 3" without a cat on it. Luckily he still has the stock exhaust but it needs to be put on to smog it.
3. Needs the stock front bumper, which he has, to be put on.

Now just to convince the parents (dad still doesn't think I need a car) to let me buy it. I'm paying for it in full, but they have to insure it.

Very cool. Time to sign up (http://www.dsmtalk.com/) for another board :thumbs_up:

SeanPlunk
12-20-2010, 10:02 PM
Bigger DSM forum. (http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/)

AARP
12-21-2010, 10:40 AM
Bigger DSM forum. (http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/)

Yep, I've been on there for a couple days now since the verification wouldn't work on the previous site :huh:

Anyways, it's starting to look like we might have to replace the whole clutch assembly depending on how long he really has been running with that clutch slipping all over the place. The second one down here http://www.tmzperformance.com/Mitsubishi%20SBC%20Clutch%20Parts.html comes with good recommendations. I doubt it'll take anywhere near the stated hp, but then again I really don't plan on getting that high. Also need to check if the BOV is recirculating, or else that could cause problems with the 5-0 (as well as trip up the ECU).

I dunno, something about the car tells me that he's hiding something. If I plan on buying it, it better pass smog, a compression test, and turbo life test with flying colors.

SeanPlunk
12-21-2010, 09:35 PM
Yep, I've been on there for a couple days now since the verification wouldn't work on the previous site :huh:

Anyways, it's starting to look like we might have to replace the whole clutch assembly depending on how long he really has been running with that clutch slipping all over the place. The second one down here http://www.tmzperformance.com/Mitsubishi%20SBC%20Clutch%20Parts.html comes with good recommendations. I doubt it'll take anywhere near the stated hp, but then again I really don't plan on getting that high. Also need to check if the BOV is recirculating, or else that could cause problems with the 5-0 (as well as trip up the ECU).

I dunno, something about the car tells me that he's hiding something. If I plan on buying it, it better pass smog, a compression test, and turbo life test with flying colors.

Hopefully not, but this (http://www.orangecountyhorsepower.com/forums/showthread.php?p=135970#post135970) is a great backup car :drink:

AARP
12-21-2010, 10:47 PM
Hopefully not, but this (http://www.orangecountyhorsepower.com/forums/showthread.php?p=135970#post135970) is a great backup car :drink:

Unfortunately insurance is through the roof on that thing.

AARP
12-28-2010, 03:21 AM
Eclipse. (http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2102914755.html)


I'm going to check this one out after the new year. It's scary how accurate you predictions are Sean.

Texted the guy a bit, the reason he said it wasn't running is because he had to swap the motor for another 4G63T due to the timing tensioner going out and destroying the head. He said mileage unknown on the new motor...

SeanPlunk
12-28-2010, 01:57 PM
Even though the insurance is high, I would buy that 95 Mustang GT. It's a fantastic starter car and I think it'll be less work for you than a DSM. I LOVE DSM's, but I'm not sure I'd want one as my first car. What insurance carrier are you working with?

AARP
12-28-2010, 07:45 PM
Even though the insurance is high, I would buy that 95 Mustang GT. It's a fantastic starter car and I think it'll be less work for you than a DSM. I LOVE DSM's, but I'm not sure I'd want one as my first car. What insurance carrier are you working with?

Unfortunately it seems to be just a bit high for my budget. I'm really shooting for around 3k. I also don't know how I feel yet about using a cable clutch as I've never had to. My insurance is Allstate and I'll be on my family's policy.

Keep sending in the rec's to check out though, Sean. You seem to have a knack for picking the best :thumbs_up:

blackax
12-28-2010, 08:06 PM
Unfortunately it seems to be just a bit high for my budget. I'm really shooting for around 3k. I also don't know how I feel yet about using a cable clutch as I've never had to. My insurance is Allstate and I'll be on my family's policy.

Keep sending in the rec's to check out though, Sean. You seem to have a knack for picking the best :thumbs_up:

The cable clutch isn't that bad...its only a tiny bit worse then the V.


I need to take you out in the truck again

AARP
01-04-2011, 06:22 PM
Well, there's been a pretty drastic change in plans after talking with the family mechanic who we've been going to since forever and would presumably have to fix my car if something really went wrong. Bad news first. He pretty much shot me down on everything I proposed including: dsm eclipse, mustang, camaro, 240z, 300zx. However, luckily it wasn't all bad news. He advised me and the mom to look for a 70's-early 80's BMW which I've wanted since forever but always assumed they were too much to fix. One thing he said though is no automatic windows which I'm fine with. Also, he said he had a customer that might be looking to sell his restored 1965 Falcon and will get back to me. In the meantime, I'm looking on craigslist for either a 2002, an E21 or an E30.

SeanPlunk
01-04-2011, 09:06 PM
Well, there's been a pretty drastic change in plans after talking with the family mechanic who we've been going to since forever and would presumably have to fix my car if something really went wrong. Bad news first. He pretty much shot me down on everything I proposed including: dsm eclipse, mustang, camaro, 240z, 300zx. However, luckily it wasn't all bad news. He advised me and the mom to look for a 70's-early 80's BMW which I've wanted since forever but always assumed they were too much to fix. One thing he said though is no automatic windows which I'm fine with. Also, he said he had a customer that might be looking to sell his restored 1965 Falcon and will get back to me. In the meantime, I'm looking on craigslist for either a 2002, an E21 or an E30.

Sounds fishy. A mustang is considerably easier/cheaper to work on than a BMW....

AARP
01-04-2011, 09:39 PM
Sounds fishy. A mustang is considerably easier/cheaper to work on than a BMW....

Exactly what I thought. But hey, it beats the camry/accord offer my parents had on the table.

blackax
01-04-2011, 11:10 PM
Sounds fishy. A mustang is considerably easier/cheaper to work on than a BMW....

your right the BMW is a pain in the ass to work on and they break alot...So he is just looking after his boat payment lol


I dont think the BMW is the right call here

AARP
01-08-2011, 05:24 PM
Going to check this one out sometime this week. 71 2002 with engine and 5 spd trans from an E30.

http://www.bmw2002faq.com/component/option,com_forum/Itemid,57/page,viewtopic/t,348121/highlight,/

Talked to the owner, really nice guy. He needs to put a new slave cylinder in sometime this week and will call me when it's done. As you can see, the body, paint, and interior look like hell but it's rust free. What really matters to me is that it's mechanically sound.

blackax
01-08-2011, 05:30 PM
there is rust.. that thing is a pile! worth maybe 2k if you can drive it home... only to strip it and sell it out piece by piece!

~Bradshaw

blackax
01-08-2011, 06:23 PM
here's some cars we found...

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2147505551.html <~~ M3 :)

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2149852160.html <~~ NO SMOG!!

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2149686317.html <~~300hp turbo awd

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2150467396.html <~~ 5.9l V8

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2150858272.html <~~ 350/350 4bbl pre smog

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2150504353.html <~~ Luxury RWD V8

AARP
01-08-2011, 07:00 PM
here's some cars we found...

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2147505551.html <~~ M3 :)

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2149852160.html <~~ NO SMOG!!

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2149686317.html <~~300hp turbo awd

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2150467396.html <~~ 5.9l V8

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2150858272.html <~~ 350/350 4bbl pre smog

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2150504353.html <~~ Luxury RWD V8

Gah, too bad most of those are autos. I'm liking that m3 but it may be a little out of my range and aren't parts on m3's super expensive?

SeanPlunk
01-08-2011, 09:54 PM
That 92 stealth is cool...

blackax
01-09-2011, 07:48 AM
I'm really liking the rambler

AARP
01-11-2011, 01:09 AM
So we finally came up with something cheap, modern, and something the parents will like (little do they know the plans I have in store for it...). A Volvo 850 Turbo Wagon.

This here unmolested 96' is pushin out 222 ponies from the 5 cylinder, and boy do I plan on more. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/2149548492.html

Nothing says humiliation like getting smoked in a quarter by a Swedish wagon.

Kozak
01-11-2011, 01:56 AM
I'm with Sean, I liked the Stealth. But I'm curious...what plans do you have for a 5 banger swedish safety box?

AARP
01-11-2011, 04:56 PM
I'm with Sean, I liked the Stealth. But I'm curious...what plans do you have for a 5 banger swedish safety box?

Not too much right now, but eventually I'd like to swap in a bigger turbo. Right now I'd be just glad to get from Point A to B.

89StangGuy
01-11-2011, 05:10 PM
I'm a fan of Volvos. Right now I'm driving a 98 Volvo S70. That thing goes. My Uncle had a Volvo T5R. Turbo, AWD, 5 Speed, pushing over 300 horses. They're kinda hard to find. But well worth it. Stock 240HP! Debadge it and you have a sick sleeper.

Chuck
01-11-2011, 09:52 PM
I clicked on the stealth and almost wanted it for a DD but I don't really drive a DD I have a work truck.

AARP
01-11-2011, 10:41 PM
I'm a fan of Volvos. Right now I'm driving a 98 Volvo S70. That thing goes. My Uncle had a Volvo T5R. Turbo, AWD, 5 Speed, pushing over 300 horses. They're kinda hard to find. But well worth it. Stock 240HP! Debadge it and you have a sick sleeper.

Yeah right now I'm looking at V70 T5's also since their cheap and cheap to insure. Now if only I could find one with a stick...

Actually I'm going to check this one out tomorrow: http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/2145805301.html

Also, here's a nice T-5R I might look into:
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/2154374730.html

AARP
01-12-2011, 11:50 PM
Actually I'm going to check this one out tomorrow: http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/2145805301.html


Okay, went all the way out to Muirietta(:eek:) to check this one out today. First impression- this thing is clean. The paint has a couple of scratches here and there but hey, it was a family vehicle. It drove very nice and smooth but when you put your foot into it you could definitely feel that power it has (specs from factory: 176 kW , 236 HP @ 5,400 rpm; 244 ft lb , 330 Nm @ 2,400 rpm). The family has owned it since 55,000 miles and since then have replaced the alternator, turbo, and a few other things I forgot. Right now it has 133,000 miles. All maintenance has been done by either the Volvo dealer when it was under warranty or by the family mechanic. The dad doesn't know very much about it. Now since we don't live in a perfect world, I'll list the problems I had with it, ranging from most to least important.

1. Has a problem with surging at idle. Doesn't happen all the time, but happens frequently enough to where it's a pain in the ass. When I drove it the RPMs would bounce inbetween 700-850. I asked him how bad it had gotten before and he said 700-1100 RPMs were the the worst he's seen. He's been driving with it for about a year now. My question is what the heck is causing this? My prediction is that either the MAF sensor or the throttlebody have something off. Best case scenario is they just need to be cleaned. Worst case is they need replacing (:surrender:).

2. Timing belt and serpentine belt need replacing. The owner has no idea the last time the belts were changed. Fluids looked ok from what I could tell. Dipstick looked clean.

3. Rear top brake light is out. When you brake a light on the dashboard comes on, but I couldn't tell if it was the CEL or not.

I'm having it checked out either tomorrow or Friday by a guy I found in Temecula that specializes in Volvo's. I'm hoping for positive news.

EDIT: In other news, the parents shot me down on the Datsun idea once again :(
However, the mom really likes the Volvo.

AARP
01-13-2011, 11:35 PM
Best $89 I ever spent. Enough stuff wrong with the wagon to total it. The owner couldn't believe that his volvo shop had been lying to him about everything about the car. I don't think the timing belt was even replaced once.

In other news, pretty much I just want something that can beat my friend's 02 maxima in a 1/4. My standards are very low at this point.

kdracer73
01-16-2011, 02:03 PM
I remember @ Palomar, you mentioned Datsun Roadsters. Here is a V8 one in Irvine ! :nuts:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Roadster-2000-V8-/110634432231?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item19c25376e7#ht_1501wt_1165


YouTube - V8 Datsun Roadster

Little outta your price range though.. I just told Frankie I would trade the Camaro for this ! She said " NNOOOOOO !! " Good thing we ain't married yet !

blackax
01-16-2011, 07:13 PM
I remember @ Palomar, you mentioned Datsun Roadsters. Here is a V8 one in Irvine ! :nuts:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Roadster-2000-V8-/110634432231?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item19c25376e7#ht_1501wt_1165


YouTube - V8 Datsun Roadster (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC_lPfVV_9k&NR=1)

Little outta your price range though.. I just told Frankie I would trade the Camaro for this ! She said " NNOOOOOO !! " Good thing we ain't married yet !


Damn that things still so low in the front.

AARP
01-17-2011, 03:22 PM
I remember @ Palomar, you mentioned Datsun Roadsters. Here is a V8 one in Irvine ! :nuts:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Roadster-2000-V8-/110634432231?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item19c25376e7#ht_1501wt_1165


YouTube - V8 Datsun Roadster (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC_lPfVV_9k&NR=1)

Little outta your price range though.. I just told Frankie I would trade the Camaro for this ! She said " NNOOOOOO !! " Good thing we ain't married yet !

Yeah, if that thing was a couple grand cheaper I would be on it like white on rice.

And then I'd probably be in the ICU for wrapping it around a tree a week later, haha.:D

AARP
01-17-2011, 11:09 PM
Hokay, right now in the Volvo sector I'm looking at these 3.

2 2001 Volvo T5 Wagons:
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/2150276595.html
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/2160024977.html

And a 1995 T5R:
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/2154374730.html

In other news, turns out my insurance will allow me to have up to a 95' Camaro Z28 or up to a 99 Mustang GT (but 99 is really the only year I'm interested in).

For you guys who know Mustangs, what would a general mileage be where it wouldn't be worth it to pursue it? 130,000?

SeanPlunk
01-17-2011, 11:21 PM
Hokay, right now in the Volvo sector I'm looking at these 3.

2 2001 Volvo T5 Wagons:
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/2150276595.html
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/2160024977.html

And a 1995 T5R:
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/2154374730.html

In other news, turns out my insurance will allow me to have up to a 95' Camaro Z28 or up to a 99 Mustang GT (but 99 is really the only year I'm interested in).

For you guys who know Mustangs, what would a general mileage be where it wouldn't be worth it to pursue it? 130,000?

I would buy a 99 GT or a 94-95GT only in that range. The 96-98 SOHC GT's were not particularly quick stock and it's very difficult to make power out of the motor without doing extensive work.

Do it. (http://www.orangecountyhorsepower.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5945)

AARP
01-18-2011, 12:37 AM
I would buy a 99 GT or a 94-95GT only in that range. The 96-98 SOHC GT's were not particularly quick stock and it's very difficult to make power out of the motor without doing extensive work.

Do it. (http://www.orangecountyhorsepower.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5945)

I've thought about it, but 215 hp in the 5.0 vs 260 in the 99 GT is quite the jump. Plus it seems that particular 5.0 has quite the mileage on it. Also, the 99 and ups just look good compared to earlier 4th gens.

Thinkin along the lines of:
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/cto/2155304676.html

SeanPlunk
01-18-2011, 09:36 AM
I've thought about it, but 215 hp in the 5.0 vs 260 in the 99 GT is quite the jump. Plus it seems that particular 5.0 has quite the mileage on it. Also, the 99 and ups just look good compared to earlier 4th gens.

Thinkin along the lines of:
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/cto/2155304676.html

Getting a 5.0 to 260hp and beyond is easy and cheap. Getting a 99 GT much beyond 260 is expensive.

AARP
01-18-2011, 04:40 PM
Getting a 5.0 to 260hp and beyond is easy and cheap. Getting a 99 GT much beyond 260 is expensive.

Hmm, I'll keep an eye out for 5.0's then. I still kinda think that one you posted is asking high for the mileage on it. If I were to get a 5.0, what would you recommend as some first upgrades?

SeanPlunk
01-19-2011, 10:35 PM
Hmm, I'll keep an eye out for 5.0's then. I still kinda think that one you posted is asking high for the mileage on it. If I were to get a 5.0, what would you recommend as some first upgrades?

Intake and exhaust probably :drink:

AARP
01-19-2011, 11:02 PM
Back to DSM's, this one popped up on craigslist. Looks like shit, but could be worth checking out.
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2165899643.html

And 2 Camaros:
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/cto/2165860549.html

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/2169286680.html

Kozak
01-20-2011, 03:26 AM
Back to DSM's, this one popped up on craigslist. Looks like shit, but could be worth checking out.
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2165899643.html

And 2 Camaros:
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/cto/2165860549.html

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/2169286680.html

As far as the eclipse goes, looks like shit as in you don't personally like the way they look right? Cause that's one of the cleaner ones I've seen

My expertise on the Camaros and the LT1 in general, the one with a new waterpump is beneficial to you, so ask the white one's owner when(or if) he did a waterpump on that car(I noticed "new rebuild" but you never know), they're gonna blow, trust me. Pertaining to unmentioned things, also I'd ask them both if they've replaced the distributor(Optispark) it's basically the notorious weak point of the motor and I needed to replace it on both a 100k example I owned and a 70k vehicle and all 3 of the LT1 cars I've owned, including the one my little bro currently DDs needed a waterpump at least once.

AARP
01-20-2011, 07:40 AM
As far as the eclipse goes, looks like shit as in you don't personally like the way they look right? Cause that's one of the cleaner ones I've seen
I more meant the fact that it was converted to the 97-99 body style and has a mitsu badge when it' a 95 Talon, haha. But other then that it is in fact one of the nicer examples I have seen.
My expertise on the Camaros and the LT1 in general, the one with a new waterpump is beneficial to you, so ask the white one's owner when(or if) he did a waterpump on that car(I noticed "new rebuild" but you never know), they're gonna blow, trust me. Pertaining to unmentioned things, also I'd ask them both if they've replaced the distributor(Optispark) it's basically the notorious weak point of the motor and I needed to replace it on both a 100k example I owned and a 70k vehicle and all 3 of the LT1 cars I've owned, including the one my little bro currently DDs needed a waterpump at least once.
Yeah definitely, I'm interested to see the mileage on the one that's been rebuilt.

AARP
01-20-2011, 09:45 PM
Also found a transam:
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/2169993318.html

And then I've been looking more and more at mr2's. It's like a fiero that goes faster and doesn't erupt in flames.

http://www.mr2.com/forums/mk-2-cars/Toyota-MR2-60883-1991-mr2-turbo-t-top-sale.html

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/2170802402.html

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2165818995.html

And a non-turbo:
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/2168182039.html

AARP
01-22-2011, 11:13 AM
Mmm, turbo miata...
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/2169816381.html

I'm worried this one might just have too many miles on it.

Another possibility would be taking this bone stock one:
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2172344625.html
And bolting this on it:
http://www.bellengineering.net/product_info.php?cPath=5_11_49&products_id=242

Anyone have any experience turbo-ing a car that would come in handy?

AARP
01-26-2011, 10:30 PM
So, I just got home from buying my new toy. :bigthumbsup:

I'll take lotsa' pictures tomorrow but for now here's the CL ad:
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2174864663.html
http://i51.tinypic.com/wmb7lk.png



The seller was a real nice guy, let John test it out and took me for a spin on Sunday. Today I was prepared to go all the way up to the $5700 asking price when I offered $5000. He said his wife was going to be pissed, but countered with $5300 and that was an offer I couldn't refuse. This miata is drop dead gorgeous for $5300!

Only things that need to be fixed is the horn needs to be hooked up on the MOMO wheel and my lack of skill driving a stick :D I've almost got regular starts down to a science and only stall about 1 in 10 times but haven't even thought about hill starts yet. Not bad for only my 3rd time driving stick if I do say so myself. The seller was actually such a nice guy that he guided me through my constant stalls when I was first getting used to the clutch. I can't wait to get good enough to take this thing out to the track!

blackax
01-26-2011, 10:38 PM
Congratulations on the killer ride. Now you just need to get some more time behind the wheel.

kdracer73
01-27-2011, 09:06 AM
Now gotta go this route.... more low end torque will make it harder to stall !
http://monstermiata.com/