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SeanPlunk
09-18-2010, 12:10 PM
Want to go drive the new F150's at California Speedway? I'm thinking of signing up... (http://www.autoblog.com/2010/09/17/ford-letting-20-000-people-drive-ecoboost-f-150-before-truck-lan/)

SoCalC55
09-18-2010, 12:48 PM
What time were you signing up for?

(early morning ftw)

SeanPlunk
09-18-2010, 01:21 PM
What time were you signing up for?

(early morning ftw)

I hadn't decided yet. I wanted to get a consensus of the interested people.

SeanPlunk
09-20-2010, 10:35 PM
They announced the final numbers for the F150 EcoBoost (http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/09/ford-f-150-with-ecoboost-rated-at-365-horsepower-420-pounds-feet.html) - 365hp/420tq :cool:

SeanPlunk
09-20-2010, 10:40 PM
That's on 87 octane by the way, I wonder what you could do with a tune and 91 octane? I bet 400/480 wouldn't be that tough...

Leedom
09-20-2010, 11:38 PM
What time are we signing up for? I say the earlier the better as it will get hotter as the day goes along.

SoCalC55
09-21-2010, 01:38 AM
Hotter, crowded, broken trucks (lol)

im down for an early showing

SeanPlunk
09-21-2010, 12:33 PM
What time specifically do you want to go? 8 is too early. I'm thinking 9ish.

Chuck
09-21-2010, 02:34 PM
Early is better if you want to keep it on schedule the later it gets the more behind it will be. Nine is cool it should still be on track.

SoCalC55
09-21-2010, 06:48 PM
9 would be good.

We can meet up before and grab some starbucks or something here in Orange County, then head that way...

SeanPlunk
09-21-2010, 08:35 PM
I registered for 9. Let's do this.

Leedom
09-21-2010, 11:11 PM
Done.

Chuck
09-22-2010, 06:44 PM
We are in 9:00 AM

gunfish
09-22-2010, 07:36 PM
I'll be anxious to hear what you guys think. I'd love to go but will hopefully be slaying bambi and his relatives that particular Saturday.

SeanPlunk
09-27-2010, 01:53 PM
Driving impressions are out. (http://www.autoblog.com/2010/09/27/2011-ford-f-150-first-drive-review-road-test/) Pretty damn impressive.

SVT should definitely make an EcoBoost Lightning/make the EcoBoost available in the Raptor.

SeanPlunk
09-27-2010, 01:55 PM
LOL, the EcoBoost is quicker than the 6.2. Come on Ford, put one in a Mustang and call it SVO.

http://blogs.cars.com/.a/6a00d83451b3c669e20133f49c18b0970b-800wi

SeanPlunk
09-27-2010, 02:00 PM
3.5-liter EcoBoost V-6 ($1,750 more than 3.7-liter V-6)

The 3.5-liter EcoBoost V-6 F-150 was the only truck we drove both empty and pulling a trailer. Ford says it can tow up to 11,300 pounds, which is today’s maximum towing rating for the F-150. That’s amazing when you imagine its displacement is smaller than a pair of 2-liter bottles of Coke.

They hype around the 365 hp (@ 5,000 rpm), 420 pounds-feet (@ 2,500 rpm) twin turbo direct-injection six-cylinder has been building for years, when it was officially announced at the 2008 Detroit Auto Show. Since then, we’ve had the opportunity to test the turbocharged powertrain several times during its development. We were very interested to try out EcoBoost with close-to-final engine and transmission calibrations.

In a wide-open-throttle drag, we measured a blistering fast zero to 60 mph time of just 6.82 seconds behind the wheel of a two-wheel-drive FX2 SuperCrew with a 3.73 rear axle. That was the fastest time of any of the 2011 F-150s we drove and faster than any of the 4WD trucks we measured during our 2008 Light-Duty Shootout. Unloaded, there was so much power that we experienced some rear axle hop and traction control intervention about 100 feet into the run.

Ford also provided 6,700-pound, 24-foot-long enclosed trailers to pull behind a 4WD Platinum SuperCrew and a 2WD XLT on a route that combined highway and stop-and-go driving. Both trucks had 3.73 rear axles.

The EcoBoost V-6 lived up to its expectations of V-8 like pulling performance towing trailers, but in our opinion it felt more like a small-displacement V-8 instead of large-displacement engine.

Fuel economy was also V-8-like. We observed a range of 8.9 mpg to 9.7 mpg, though it seemed like Ford is prioritizing fuel economy over stoplight sprint performance when the truck is pulling a trailer. It made us wonder how the truck would do with a full 11,300 pounds behind it.

Still, we’re firm believers in the engine’s broad, diesel-like torque curve, 90 percent of which is available from 1,700 rpm to 5,000 rpm. Deep accelerator requests while towing were consistently met with refined single-step transmission downshifts and smooth power, which never felt jumpy or spiky.

At 65 mph on the highway, the EcoBoost powertrain preferred to hang in fifth gear (first overdrive) instead of sixth gear (second overdrive). It loped along at about 2,100 rpm over small, widely-spaced rolling hills. This was with the transmission in tow/haul mode, which holds gears longer and has higher rpm to keep the truck in the engine’s optimal powerband.

Using the 6R80 six-speed transmission’s new manual shift mode -- which makes the gearbox perform like a manual transmission as long as you don’t redline -- we could have forced a shift into sixth gear to lug the engine around 1,800 rpm, but we kept the transmission in full auto.

Of note, Ford has cleverly placed the manual shift mode button on the console shifter in F-150 models equipped with this option (its standard position is on the gear shift stalk), which helped reinforce its substitution as a virtual handshaker.

The 6R140 also features Progressive Range Select for every engine, which allows a driver to reduce the number of available gears so it’s easier to tow up a grade and hold a specific top gear, like fifth, without worrying about the truck upshifting and getting bogged down.

In addition, we drove about 60 miles in an unloaded EcoBoost F-150 with a 3.15 rear axle. A Ford-instigated fuel economy challenge between journalists yielded at least five trucks with fuel economy north of 30 mpg from the miserly hyper-milers behind their wheels. If that's any indication, most drivers are likely to hit about 21 mpg to 23 mpg on the highway. We hear that Ford officially hopes to score a 24 mpg rating from the EPA.

We didn’t participate in the mpg challenge. Instead, we chose to get a better feel for the 3.5-liter V-6 driving over longer distances. We’d swear the 3.15 rear axle was geared 25% shorter because when empty, it was just waiting to soak up the revs.

The 3.5 V-6 has a tougher exhaust note than the 3.7. It’s a unique sound that we’d consider a third type of powertrain signature to add to naturally aspirated gas V-8’s rumble or a diesel’s clatter.

The 3.5’s twin-turbo setup should also prove ideal for towing at altitude, where a naturally aspirated engine can have difficulty feeding air to its cylinders.

As hard as Ford is pushing EcoBoost, the only chance you'll have to drive an F-150 with the 3.5 TT GDI V-6 is at Ford's Built Ford Tough F-150 2.0 Round-Up until it hits dealers late in the first quarter of 2011.

Zero to 30 MPH (SuperCrew): 2.74 seconds
Zero to 60 MPH (SuperCrew): 6.82 seconds

What We Like

* Every bit the power equal of a V-8
* Virtually no turbo lag
* Can’t tell it’s a V-6 when the truck is unloaded
* Excellent highway fuel economy

What We Don’t

* Needs a boost gauge, like the F-Series Super Duty offers for its 6.7-liter turbodiesel
* V-8-like fuel economy when towing
* Wouldn’t hold sixth gear when towing on gentle rolling hills

Vettezuki
09-27-2010, 02:33 PM
I quite like the 11' Explorer. Maybe in a couple years if I'm in need of a new DD, and they have a V6 Ecoboost Explorer, I'll be all about it.

SeanPlunk
10-07-2010, 11:29 PM
I quite like the 11' Explorer. Maybe in a couple years if I'm in need of a new DD, and they have a V6 Ecoboost Explorer, I'll be all about it.

The new Motor Trend came today and they say the Ecoboost 6 will be in the Explorer at some point :judge:

Vettezuki
10-08-2010, 01:36 AM
The new Motor Trend came today and they say the Ecoboost 6 will be in the Explorer at some point :judge:

:bigthumbsup:

SeanPlunk
11-02-2010, 10:23 PM
Grandpa is going too :)

SeanPlunk
11-12-2010, 08:20 PM
Anyone that wants to meet up, I'm going to be at the Starbucks in the Canyon Plaza Shopping center at around 7:45a.m.

Use this address:

Anaheim Hills

5747 E. Santa Ana Canyon Rd.
Anaheim, CA 92807