August Outing to Lytle Creek (Guns)

[Vettezuki]

Click here (http://motorgen.com/forum/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1273&day=2010-8-28&c=1) for the event on the calendar. Let us know if you're going.

Date: August 28
Location: Lytle Creek
Time: Meet at the Shell Station (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=gWl&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&q=3864+Sierra+Avenue,+Fontana&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=3864+Sierra+Ave,+Fontana,+CA+92336&gl=us&ei=TR94TNikMpSCsQP-kMytBQ&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBMQ8gEwAA) close to the range at 10:00~. There's also a Del Taco in the complex ,etc. We'll leave there about 10:20~ for the range just up the road. We'll shoot til 1:30 or so.

See here (http://www.lytlecreekrange.com/Default.htm)for Lytle Creek info and location.

After shooting we'll go to BJ's in Rancho Coucamounga.

See here (http://maps.google.com/maps/place?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=xzL&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=BJ%27s+rancho+Cucamonga&fb=1&gl=us&hq=BJ%27s&hnear=Rancho+Cucamonga,+CA&cid=8599899293318639300)for BJ's location.

[Sonic03SVT]

would love to get to make it to one, but would really, REALLY prefer that it be outdoor. Need to get some time in to get my L.E. Dialed in for a CMP match. :thumbs_up:

[Vettezuki]

would love to get to make it to one, but would really, REALLY prefer that it be outdoor. Need to get some time in to get my L.E. Dialed in for a CMP match. :thumbs_up:

You mean dessert? I don't know what an L.E. is, but if it's a Rimfire, Prado has a 50 yard rifle range. :huh:

[gunfish]

sounds good. I've got both days open.

[Shaolin Crane]

Lytle Creek and Burro canyon are both outdoor ranges, Lytle Creek is off the 15 near bass pro and burro canyon is in azusa, both are good ranges. Indoor ranges are prado, and the firing line, thats $20 an hour though, but it has A/C

[Vettezuki]

Lytle Creek and Burro canyon are both outdoor ranges, Lytle Creek is off the 15 near bass pro and burro canyon is in azusa, both are good ranges. Indoor ranges are prado, and the firing line, thats $20 an hour though, but it has A/C

I keep hearing scary things about Lytle Creek. Maybe that's history. What's the current 411?

[Shaolin Crane]

I keep hearing scary things about Lytle Creek. Maybe that's history. What's the current 411?

Like what? Ive been going for 17 years, and only recall 1 idiot gangbanger looking dude who was rapid firing from the hip and the range master pulled his firearm and stopped the dude, only downside is its far away. Still my favorite range of all.

[Vettezuki]

Like what? Ive been going for 17 years, and only recall 1 idiot gangbanger looking dude who was rapid firing from the hip and the range master pulled his firearm and stopped the dude, only downside is its far away. Still my favorite range of all.

Like drink'n and shoot'n, and stuff. I'll certainly take your word for it. On our last Angeles Crest run, we ate at Fuddruckers, then my brother and I went to Bass Pros. It's seems like there's something like an attempt at a downtown strip close to BP with places to eat. We could shoot n' eat. :huh: Are the lanes fully exposed or is there shade of any kind? I'm mega-hyper white. Seriously I got a little burnt standing in the shade wearing SPF50 last Saturday.

[Shaolin Crane]

Like drink'n and shoot'n, and stuff. I'll certainly take your word for it. On our last Angeles Crest run, we ate at Fuddruckers, then my brother and I went to Bass Pros. It's seems like there's something like an attempt at a downtown strip close to BP with places to eat. We could shoot n' eat. :huh: Are the lanes fully exposed or is there shade of any kind? I'm mega-hyper white. Seriously I got a little burnt standing in the shade wearing SPF50 last Saturday.

Oh sure, the entire area is called Lytle Creek, but the Lytle creek shooting range is one of the best run ranges that does NOT tolerate shit like that. The lanes all have shade coverings on them so you're arent in direct sunlight the entire time, tables are bolted down so they are stable when you want to use heavy artillery. For the long range shooter they have a 100yd, 300yd, 500yd, and 1000yd range, skeet range for shot guns and they dont gouge you on ammo like prado does if you need more.

[Vettezuki]

Oh sure, the entire area is called Lytle Creek, but the Lytle creek shooting range is one of the best run ranges that does NOT tolerate shit like that. The lanes all have shade coverings on them so you're arent in direct sunlight the entire time, tables are bolted down so they are stable when you want to use heavy artillery. For the long range shooter they have a 100yd, 300yd, 500yd, and 1000yd range, skeet range for shot guns and they dont gouge you on ammo like prado does if you need more.

Cool I'll just set it for Lytle Creek. See updated poll for preferred day.

[Chuck]

I voted the 28th so the old lady can go too. I am so pissed I missed the last one I worked but I could have put it off till Sunday and gone F.

[iespeed]

That's not far from home! if I can put together some ammo, would love to make this event! Finally pulled out some of my longarms and was getting excited about using them again. Will not be very acurate, but will make alot of noise!

[Vettezuki]

Oky doky, see poll for time of day.

[Sonic03SVT]

L.E. in this case is my old Lee Enfield No.4 Mk.2 - Its the standard british rifle of WWII - Dad and I have a thing for WW2 rifles...not sure where it came from. Its .303 caliber, so roughly equivalent to something like a .308 - hence the need for an outdoor range. Fwiw Lytle Creek is my favorite range in the area for things like that, never had a bad experience there myself.

[Vettezuki]

L.E. in this case is my old Lee Enfield No.4 Mk.2 - Its the standard british rifle of WWII - Dad and I have a thing for WW2 rifles...not sure where it came from. Its .303 caliber, so roughly equivalent to something like a .308 - hence the need for an outdoor range. Fwiw Lytle Creek is my favorite range in the area for things like that, never had a bad experience there myself.

Ok cool. Set the date.

[iespeed]

Found 30 45-70 rounds, just need to find some 30-40 Krag. And I'll be set.

[Chuck]

I voted either Ben. I am going to put it in my calendar so I don't forget this time. I am still not happy about missing the last one. I have been going crazy with the moving/remodel of the new place.

[Vettezuki]

Cool Chuck.

For those of you who voted morning, is that "morning or I can't go" or "prefer morning"? Me an mornings don't get along so well, but I can make it happen if there's a strong preference for morning, it's almost even at the moment.

[94cobra69ss396]

Like drink'n and shoot'n, and stuff. I'll certainly take your word for it. On our last Angeles Crest run, we ate at Fuddruckers, then my brother and I went to Bass Pros. It's seems like there's something like an attempt at a downtown strip close to BP with places to eat. We could shoot n' eat. :huh: Are the lanes fully exposed or is there shade of any kind? I'm mega-hyper white. Seriously I got a little burnt standing in the shade wearing SPF50 last Saturday.

You use to be able to open shoot up in Lytle Creek and that's when it was bad. They shut that down about 10-12 years ago.

[Shaolin Crane]

You use to be able to open shoot up in Lytle Creek and that's when it was bad. They shut that down about 10-12 years ago.

You still can. California law states you can shoot anywhere as long as you are 1000yd away from civilization. So unless you're being completely retarded you're ok. But yes i have some bad stories of my own from up there.

[Shaolin Crane]

Cool Chuck.

For those of you who voted morning, is that "morning or I can't go" or "prefer morning"? Me an mornings don't get along so well, but I can make it happen if there's a strong preference for morning, it's almost even at the moment.

Lytle Creek closes at 4 but only allows admissions before 3pm so for the most shooting time its best for morning.

[iespeed]

For me, I can go either way. Morning or afternoon. Thanks Todd

[94cobra69ss396]

You still can. California law states you can shoot anywhere as long as you are 1000yd away from civilization. So unless you're being completely retarded you're ok. But yes i have some bad stories of my own from up there.

The rangers won't let you shoot up there any more and for good reason. I was up there with my wife and daugthers about a year ago hiking when we heard gun shots from the creek below us. I hurried away from the area and when we got down to the creek where my Explorer was parked there were two idiots firing in the direction we were in. They were about 100 yards away from where my truck was parked. I was pissed and my wife grabbed my arm as I started to head up to them and said let's go. On our way down we ran into a Ranger who was on his way up. We stopped him to let him know and he told us that they aren't allowed to shoot up there any more.

[Chuck]

Lytle Creek closes at 4 but only allows admissions before 3pm so for the most shooting time its best for morning.

Hey do you know if they sell ammo there?:huh:

[Shaolin Crane]

Hey do you know if they sell ammo there?:huh:

Yup

[Shaolin Crane]

The rangers won't let you shoot up there any more and for good reason. I was up there with my wife and daugthers about a year ago hiking when we heard gun shots from the creek below us. I hurried away from the area and when we got down to the creek where my Explorer was parked there were two idiots firing in the direction we were in. They were about 100 yards away from where my truck was parked. I was pissed and my wife grabbed my arm as I started to head up to them and said let's go. On our way down we ran into a Ranger who was on his way up. We stopped him to let him know and he told us that they aren't allowed to shoot up there any more.

If you were in the state park portion of the area then yes, but either way if he was parked that close to your truck he broke the law either way.

[Chuck]

They don't have prices on the website.

[Shaolin Crane]

It's on their homepage
http://www.lytlecreekrange.com/

[Chuck]

Sorry for ammo.

[Shaolin Crane]

Sorry for ammo.

Ammo is whatever market cost is generally

[Vettezuki]

Is the range within relatively short distance of food, or might pizza deliver there, or can you set up a grill outside or something? I was thinking maybe starting late morning and having a early afternoon lunch break at the facility, then more shoot'n if anyone wants as an alternative to going anywhere.

[Shaolin Crane]

Is the range within relatively short distance of food, or might pizza deliver there, or can you set up a grill outside or something? I was thinking maybe starting late morning and having a early afternoon lunch break at the facility, then more shoot'n if anyone wants as an alternative to going anywhere.

i think meeting around 10am and shooting till 1-2pm then a cruise to somewhere, bass pro, ontario mills, or anything close

[Vettezuki]

i think meeting around 10am and shooting till 1-2pm then a cruise to somewhere, bass pro, ontario mills, or anything close

10am? That's like the crack of dawn. :smack: I'll take your suggestion under advisement. Seems like a sensible plan.

[Shaolin Crane]

10am? That's like the crack of dawn. :smack: I'll take your suggestion under advisement. Seems like a sensible plan.

I'm an awake person, so 10am isnt early in my book. But i think thats the best course of action.

[Shaolin Crane]

BTW there is a BJ's in Rancho, they have awesome food and would be a great place to park some muscle and enjoy some good food

[Vettezuki]

BTW there is a BJ's in Rancho, they have awesome food and would be a great place to park some muscle and enjoy some good food

I like BJ's. But Rancho what?

[Shaolin Crane]

I like BJ's. But Rancho what?

Rancho Cucamonga

[Vettezuki]

Rancho Cucamonga

Oh. That Rancho. :inout:

[Chuck]

Ben, 10am is not early at all. Wake your bitch ass up and shoot some shit. :judge:

[Vettezuki]

Ben, 10am is not early at all. Wake your bitch ass up and shoot some shit. :judge:

My brother closes a bar (he's coming too) and I'm usually up til 4:00 or so. Being there at 10:00 will require effort.

[Shaolin Crane]

My brother closes a bar (he's coming too) and I'm usually up til 4:00 or so. Being there at 10:00 will require effort.

its ok Ben we know you dont care about motorgen :pot_stir:

[Vettezuki]

its ok Ben we know you dont care about motorgen :pot_stir:

My wife sees it a bit differently . . .:judge:

[Chuck]

My wife sees it a bit differently . . .:judge:

I bet she does.:judge:

[Vettezuki]

See OP for all final info and link to event on calendar. Invite your road warrior friends. It's open to everybody.

[Shaolin Crane]

See OP for all final info and link to event on calendar. Invite your road warrior friends. It's open to everybody.

Uhm the only problem with meeting outside is there really is no, outside, road ends into the shooting range, and there is a small lot thats used only for registration and they make you move to a new spot when done shooting, we could all meet at the gas station at the freeway, large lot that usually trailers park in during tow season. Or just have everyone register as they arrive.

[Chuck]

We need a banner for this to get the troops together. I am trying to get Leedom to go I think he will.

[Vettezuki]

We need a banner for this to get the troops together. I am trying to get Leedom to go I think he will.

We have an event before this to promote as soon as Sean decides. After that I don't see why not. My brother will be bringing several friends, it'll easy be a group of ten or so . . . I think.

[Chuck]

Cool sounds good.

[SeanPlunk]

Working on it, this one is tough!

[Chuck]

Sean get to work. :judge:

[iespeed]

More info on when and where to meet. Also will someone be bringing targets or should I bring some?

[Chuck]

If anyone needs .45 acp ammo pm my self or Ben (Vettezuki) for info on the discounted reloads we will be bringing on the 28th. I would like to get a rough count on rounds I need to make and bring.

[Vettezuki]

More info on when and where to meet. Also will someone be bringing targets or should I bring some?

See OP. There's not really a meetup place outside Lytle apparently, so just go in around 10:00am on the 28th. I've never been so I don't know if they have targets or how much they are if they do, so you might want to bring some. PM me with your cell and give me a buzz as you get near. I'll let you know what the lane situation is. It's my first time there, so I'm not sure what the sharing arrangements can be.

As Chuck said, we'll have some paper punch'n .45 ACP at low prices if that's what you shoot and need ammo.

[Shaolin Crane]

See OP. There's not really a meetup place outside Lytle apparently, so just go in around 10:00am on the 28th. I've never been so I don't know if they have targets or how much they are if they do, so you might want to bring some. PM me with your cell and give me a buzz as you get near. I'll let you know what the lane situation is. It's my first time there, so I'm not sure what the sharing arrangements can be.

As Chuck said, we'll have some paper punch'n .45 ACP at low prices if that's what you shoot and need ammo.

We could all meet at Shell station off the freeway and cruise up together.

[Vettezuki]

We could all meet at Shell station off the freeway and cruise up together.

I don't know how many people are coming. Is it big enough to accommodate 5+ cars just haning?

[Shaolin Crane]

I don't know how many people are coming. Is it big enough to accommodate 5+ cars just haning?

For Sure, Large area meant for trucks with trailers and RV's

[iespeed]

Would You consider reloading some rifle ammo in the future? Ammo for my antique rifles is hard to find and pricey when I can find it. Maybe If I buy the dies?

[Vettezuki]

Would You consider reloading some rifle ammo in the future? Ammo for my antique rifles is hard to find and pricey when I can find it. Maybe If I buy the dies?

You don't need to buy the dies, but an initial minimum purchase might expedite the overall process. :)

I don't know about Chuck, but I'm particularly interested in the precision loading of rifle ammo, which brings a whole set of micro details not (so) relevant to loading for pistols, especially when just punching paper.

What are we talking about here? I have one friend who has the same problem for Mauser 8x57. There's surplus ammo, but it's all corrosive stuff.

Are there many others interested in this caliber as well?

Also, for my calculation purposes, what kind of a "fair market price" and quantities are you theoretically interested in?

No commitments here, just discussion. This all just helps us make a reasonable calculation.

[iespeed]

I have not been out in a couple of years, but if this turns into something that I still enjoy doing. I am interested in 45-70, 30-40 krag and probably 38-55. Would need not more than 80 rounds of each at a time. I am checking into max breech pressures for each paticular rifle. Probably would be wanting to mix and match, whether I am punching targets or trying to hurt my friends shoulders! I might still check into my own loading setup, me and my dad loaded our own ammo for alot of years. But like I said, that will depend on whether shooting still rocks my world. Oh yeah, prices. Well I'm paying about $40 for 20 45-70, have not checked into the 38-55 yet and the 30-40 I can not purchase yet. National backorder since Nov. '09. But those were going for about $30 for 20. What if I bought the dies? would that help the bottom line?

[Vettezuki]

I have not been out in a couple of years, but if this turns into something that I still enjoy doing. I am interested in 45-70, 30-40 krag and probably 38-55. Would need not more than 80 rounds of each at a time. I am checking into max breech pressures for each paticular rifle. Probably would be wanting to mix and match, whether I am punching targets or trying to hurt my friends shoulders! I might still check into my own loading setup, me and my dad loaded our own ammo for alot of years. But like I said, that will depend on whether shooting still rocks my world. Oh yeah, prices. Well I'm paying about $40 for 20 45-70, have not checked into the 38-55 yet and the 30-40 I can not purchase yet. National backorder since Nov. '09. But those were going for about $30 for 20. What if I bought the dies? would that help the bottom line?

Man you were serious about antique!

As for dies, that lowers cost a whole bunch, and if there isn't a market sufficient market for these rounds, that'd make all the difference in the world. Another way to do the same thing is just commit to an initial purchase of rounds suffecient to cover cost. It's the same to you cost wise, but you end with a bunch more ammo.

Let me do a little research. The brass ain't cheap that's for sure. Do you have any?

[iespeed]

So far all I have is 45-70, going to check with a couple of local's about getting some brass. Like I was saying, if I'm going to go out more often then I could possible make this work. I also have a 1911 a1, but it needs some work. So 45 acp could also be right up my alley. Might also be interested in 45 lc and 44 mag. Just waiting to see how thing's go.

[Shaolin Crane]

So far all I have is 45-70, going to check with a couple of local's about getting some brass. Like I was saying, if I'm going to go out more often then I could possible make this work. I also have a 1911 a1, but it needs some work. So 45 acp could also be right up my alley. Might also be interested in 45 lc and 44 mag. Just waiting to see how thing's go.

Whats wrong with your 1911, cause i can probably fix it...

[iespeed]

Hey would You have a spare bench pad? All my shooting recently ( in the last 20 some odd years has been plinking ) I have not been to a range in along time. I'll bring the 45 with me, You could ck. it out?

[Shaolin Crane]

Hey would You have a spare bench pad? All my shooting recently ( in the last 20 some odd years has been plinking ) I have not been to a range in along time. I'll bring the 45 with me, You could ck. it out?

no bench pad, all my rifles have bipods. But go ahead and bring it with you and i'll give it a good once over. If it turns out to be something i can fix, i can take it back to my shop and strip it down and fix it.

[Vettezuki]

So far all I have is 45-70, going to check with a couple of local's about getting some brass. Like I was saying, if I'm going to go out more often then I could possible make this work. I also have a 1911 a1, but it needs some work. So 45 acp could also be right up my alley. Might also be interested in 45 lc and 44 mag. Just waiting to see how thing's go.

.45 ACP is what we're starting with. We'll have plenty this Saturday in fact. We'd be happy to be your supplier and even work up custom loads for your rifles over time.

[iespeed]

Hey do You guys know people that might be able to help me with my quest to find info on my 1870 Krag experimental. Heres a link ck. it out.http://dutchman.rebooty.com/krag.html

[Shaolin Crane]

possibly, but it wont be cheap

[Chuck]

I am absolutely interested in loading custom rifle rounds. I am in the market for a rifle and would like to make rounds for it. I defiantly something very accurate at long range but I don't know a lot about what is good so I am open to suggestions.

[Shaolin Crane]

I am absolutely interested in loading custom rifle rounds. I am in the market for a rifle and would like to make rounds for it. I defiantly something very accurate at long range but I don't know a lot about what is good so I am open to suggestions.

http://www.m1arifles.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/jae-100-g2.png

[Vettezuki]

http://www.m1arifles.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/jae-100-g2.png

Well, what receiver would you put in the durn thing?

[Chuck]

That thing kicks ass, but what's the price tag on a machine like that?

[Shaolin Crane]

That thing kicks ass, but what's the price tag on a machine like that?

bout 3-4k depending, it WILL be my next rifle

[Vettezuki]

bout 3-4k depending, it WILL be my next rifle

It's "just" a stock right? You have to select what "rifle" you're going to put in it. What do you plan to put in it and why?

[Shaolin Crane]

It's "just" a stock right? You have to select what "rifle" you're going to put in it. What do you plan to put in it and why?

Its not "just" a stock. Its a rifle system. And it was designed specifically for the M1A. To make it the ultimate battle/sniper rifler.
http://www.jallenenterprises.com/jae100gen2pricing.htm

[Vettezuki]

Its not "just" a stock. Its a rifle system. And it was designed specifically for the M1A. To make it the ultimate battle/sniper rifler.
http://www.jallenenterprises.com/jae100gen2pricing.htm

What I meant is you have to plug in the bang bang bits separately, and there seems to be quite a range of options.

See No. 2.

http://www.jallenenterprises.com/jae100gsfaq.htm

[Shaolin Crane]

I would just buy a whole Springer long barrel M1A and swap everything over

[iespeed]

Got me some targets today, man it's hard to find something big enough for me to see at 100 yds. Thought about taking some poster board and drawing a big circle on it. Should be fun to see if I can hit a target, usually just shoot at beer cans and rocks.

[Shaolin Crane]

Got me some targets today, man it's hard to find something big enough for me to see at 100 yds. Thought about taking some poster board and drawing a big circle on it. Should be fun to see if I can hit a target, usually just shoot at beer cans and rocks.

try finding silhouette targets, many counties and cities have laws against selling them.

[Chuck]

So what's the plan tomorrow Shell at 9:30? Address?

[Vettezuki]

Updated OP also.

Meet at the Shell Station (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=gWl&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&q=3864+Sierra+Avenue,+Fontana&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=3864+Sierra+Ave,+Fontana,+CA+92336&gl=us&ei=TR94TNikMpSCsQP-kMytBQ&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBMQ8gEwAA) close to the range at 10:00~. There's also a Del Taco in the complex ,etc. Feel free to meet a little earlier if you like. We'll leave there about 10:20~ for the range just up the road.

[iespeed]

Umm Del Taco, breakfast of Champions!

[iespeed]

Has anyone been to this range? Was wondering if I should bring sodas and snacks? Tried calling but they were already closed.

[Vettezuki]

Has anyone been to this range? Was wondering if I should bring sodas and snacks? Tried calling but they were already closed.

I haven't been, but Shaolin can fill you in. In any event, probably not a bad idea, just nothing melt-able. :smack:

[iespeed]

Would You happen to have a bench pad I could borrow for the day? I do not usually go to ranges. So that has not been something I have had a use for.

[Vettezuki]

Would You happen to have a bench pad I could borrow for the day? I do not usually go to ranges. So that has not been something I have had a use for.

No, but I have a packing blanket I can bring that's probably better than nothing.

[Vettezuki]

Had a, uh, blast today! Thanks to all who came. Let's do that again sometime.

[iespeed]

Ben, pic's? I have a few. What is the max size I can post? Todd

[Vettezuki]

Ben, pic's? I have a few. What is the max size I can post? Todd

Technically, max size is 5MB (AIR, would have to check). But that's ginormous and will load awefully slow. *Generally* I find pics around 800x640 in a higher quality JPEG format look pretty decent and hover around the 150Kbyte mark. Thems load just fine. I'm beginning to work on mine now.

[Shaolin Crane]

me want pictures now. I have mine currently uploading

[Vettezuki]

me want pictures now. I have mine currently uploading

Alright alright already. I got distracted. Jeesh.

[Shaolin Crane]

Alright alright already. I got distracted. Jeesh.

:D ooooooh shiny.....

[Vettezuki]

Some pics, with insightful captions.

This is what the firing line at Lytle creek looks like.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_02.jpg

The range master was always ready . . just in case the shiznit got real.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_05.jpg


Whenever Chuck gets near guns, he smiles.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_03.jpg

Guy, pronounced "guy" not "gee" (a.k.a., Shaolin Crane) never smiles. . . except when talking about guns.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_07.jpg

Seriously. Smiling is all he can do when holding a lethal weapon.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_08.jpg

Mmnm, they don't look that dangerous.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_11.jpg

Aaron's (a.k.a., Death Cult Aaronmageddon) new toy.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_13.jpg

The new meds seem to be working . . .
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_15.jpg

The alien-commie-zombie-terrorist target.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_22.jpg

Laying down on the job.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_24.jpg

Hey, what' this button do?
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_25.jpg

Yee haw bitches!
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_29.jpg

This AR was straight up badass. Tom was thinking "they're everywhere man. . they're everwhere!"
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_34.jpg

Not sure Aaron can think without that hat.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_35.jpg

[Vettezuki]

Still smiling. . .
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_36.jpg

A rare picture of me bringing the pain. Get a hair cut hippie.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_42.jpg

This may be one of the most terrifying picture ever.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_45.jpg

Wait, no this is. Chuck is still smiling. But you can sense a little worry this time. (Oh, the other captions I could have written.)
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_49.jpg

Seriously, this thing was like holding an explosion. . .
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_51.jpg

Why does Tom look so happy.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_54.jpg

Kung-Fu grip?
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_58.jpg

Abel. His mustache can actually detect danger. It's impressive.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_61.jpg

Compensating?
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_63.jpg

And the gun with the most ridiculous kick of the day. The gub-ment 45-70. Firing this thing was more like getting punched in the face than shooting. Those were some burly dudes who fired this from horse back.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_67.jpg


Yeah, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil for I am on some awesome meds.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/LytleCreek_10-08-29_71.jpg


I'm beginning to rethink my stance on gun laws. . .
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/Lytle%20Creek/LytleCreek_10-08-29_75.jpg

[Chuck]

Guns = Happy Chuck :bigthumbsup:

[Shaolin Crane]

http://s524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/ShaolinCrane/Dedicated%20Service/?action=view&current=PICT0423.mp4
http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/ShaolinCrane/Dedicated%20Service/PICT0421.jpg
http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/ShaolinCrane/Dedicated%20Service/PICT0418.jpg
http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/ShaolinCrane/Dedicated%20Service/PICT0400.jpg
http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/ShaolinCrane/Dedicated%20Service/PICT0397.jpg
http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/ShaolinCrane/Dedicated%20Service/PICT0416.jpg

[Shaolin Crane]

http://s524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/ShaolinCrane/Dedicated%20Service/?action=view&current=PICT0414.mp4
http://s524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/ShaolinCrane/Dedicated%20Service/?action=view&current=PICT0412.mp4
http://s524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/ShaolinCrane/Dedicated%20Service/?action=view&current=PICT0411.mp4
http://s524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/ShaolinCrane/Dedicated%20Service/?action=view&current=PICT0410.mp4
http://s524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/ShaolinCrane/Dedicated%20Service/?action=view&current=PICT0409.mp4
http://s524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/ShaolinCrane/Dedicated%20Service/?action=view&current=PICT0408.mp4

[injdinjn]

Is that range at the west end of the paved road.

[Shaolin Crane]

well, facing north its east of the paved road

[Vettezuki]

I gotta bring the video camera next time.