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st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*
02-10-2009, 11:16 AM
We don't hear from you in days and that is all you have to say?:rolleyes:
lol ive been off in my own world of bordom and school and partys lol!
on the plus side of thing in my auto classes they taught me how to use a boring bar and a honing machine and a hydrolic spring comprssing maching all cool shit! so imma rebuild my blown block in class for extra credit...also if the rx-snake needs some of that work i can do it for free and get extra credit lol.
but besides that exciting bit of my life its been pretty boring.....you could only make yourself hydroplane so many times in the rain before it gets old lol.
i think of come to the conclusion that im essentually "done" with the evo as far as my goals and how i want the car.........so thats why ive been so removed and distant because there is nothing new......and now i found out that the starion cant take the evo engine sense there is only one tranny it will mate too and thats some automatic powerglide.....which upset me.......so now ive realized i need to jump into a new car to keep things fresh...
ive decided its gonna be the new hyundai genesis coupe when they come out.
its gonna be a nice little pocket rocket.....with a base price of 17-19k not to bad for what you get.
pretty much an:
evo 10 block with low boost @ 210hp
turbo
no maf sensor
rwd
lsd
4 pot front brembos
4 pot rear brembo brakes
*this meets my criteria of having an evo engine and being rwd and driftable lol
so this is gonna be a great platform to work with and also i really think i need to be in a current *new* car scene again.....once i got a taste of it when i had my old evo in 05...i loved that being new feeling and on the cutting edge of new products coming out for my car lol. ya it does sound kinda vain of me but damn i gotta admit i miss the stares i used to get everywhere and people asking me what kind of honda that was or saying theyve never seen that kinda car before :-(
Vettezuki
02-10-2009, 11:38 AM
The Genesis has an EvoX block? Que?
st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*
02-10-2009, 11:48 AM
The Genesis has an EvoX block? Que?
yup yup u read correctly the genesis coupe 2.0T, the evo 10, and the srt-4 caliber all share the same aluminum family of blocks but the evo 10 and gen coupe have a closer relation keeping just about everything in the block the same......the only differenced ive heard so far and they have only been speculation not proven yet are maybe a weaker rod, and the evo has a 4 bolt main while the gen coupe might get a 2 bolt main...but its yet to be proven.
also some of the koreans that already have the coupe over there in korea land also are speculating that the evo and gen coupe share the same head and might be able to interchange cams but its just a rumor so far is this guy over there has actually done it yet...he kinda dissapeared from there forums when he started his engine build up on a 2.0T
Vettezuki
02-10-2009, 12:34 PM
yup yup u read correctly the genesis coupe 2.0T, the evo 10, and the srt-4 caliber all share the same aluminum family of blocks but the evo 10 and gen coupe have a closer relation keeping just about everything in the block the same......the only differenced ive heard so far and they have only been speculation not proven yet are maybe a weaker rod, and the evo has a 4 bolt main while the gen coupe might get a 2 bolt main...but its yet to be proven.
also some of the koreans that already have the coupe over there in korea land also are speculating that the evo and gen coupe share the same head and might be able to interchange cams but its just a rumor so far is this guy over there has actually done it yet...he kinda dissapeared from there forums when he started his engine build up on a 2.0T
Interesting. Wonder if it's the same alloy for the castings.
st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*
02-10-2009, 12:59 PM
Interesting. Wonder if it's the same alloy for the castings.
who knows thats past my retaining wall of knowledge lol
but ya imma rebuild that old evo engine i got sell it for 2.5-3 grand hopefully and sell the starion for 2-3 grand hopefully and put but 5-7 grand down on an 19k genesis coupe and have low $100 dollar a month payments ill be in happy town :-D and no the evo's not getting traded.
also if i get the hyundai your gonna have to make korean or kdm section on your forum bwahahah bet u never saw that request coming!!
Vettezuki
02-10-2009, 02:41 PM
. . . also if i get the hyundai your gonna have to make korean or kdm section on your forum bwahahah bet u never saw that request coming!!
I think I'll just make it Asian to cover them all like European.
Chate
02-10-2009, 03:02 PM
hmm you've got me interested in the genesis coupe...what's the official release date?
Chate
02-10-2009, 03:08 PM
man thats one nice website too...
st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*
02-10-2009, 05:02 PM
hmm you've got me interested in the genesis coupe...what's the official release date?
the genesis coupe currently has some dealer early releases in dealerships, but i think in the next month or so they come out in full force...i know theyre taking pre-orders now and already have a cateloge out with packages.
and then in the summer the track model and R-Spec model come out.
the price break down is
base 2.0T 18-19k *no brembo, maybe lsd, no hid, no sunroof, no leather
luxury 2.0T 19-20k *maybe brembo, maybe lsd, sunrood and leather and hid
track 2.0T 20-22k *brembo, lsd, sport suspention, leather, hid, 19"rims+summer tires....and other little crap
R-Spec 2.0T 22-24k all of the above, with maybe some weight saving stuff, maybe carbon fiber, maybe a few more hp, and thats about all i know for now!
and ya vette you would generalize all asians....i guess they all do kinda look the same ?!!
Chate
02-10-2009, 05:55 PM
Hmm, any idea on 6cyl pricing? Thats more along my taste (yeah its not turbo, but stock numbers are decent)
SoCalC55
02-10-2009, 08:07 PM
If any one sees one at a local dealer(where the hell is a Hundai dealerhip anyways, haha) let me know, id love to go take a look at one.
st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*
02-10-2009, 09:39 PM
If any one sees one at a local dealer(where the hell is a Hundai dealerhip anyways, haha) let me know, id love to go take a look at one.
hyundai dealers are usually packaged with another manufacture.
like over here the closes hyundai dealership is in ontario and coupled with a mazda dealership off jurupa and the I-15
there is another one in san bernardino where the 10 and 215 meet.
and chate.....oh chate chate as much as i dont aggree with the v6 because it will be limited as far as budget hp gains it is a nice starting point and a contender with the nissan 370z.
here are un-official US prices but real pricing should be somewhere in this ball park
2.0T ( 6 speed)- $17,700-$19,700
- 2.0T (automatic) - $18907-20907
- 2.0T Premium (6 speed)- $20,111-$22,111
- 2.0T Premium (automatic) - $21317-$23317
- 2.0T Track (6-speed manual transmission only) - $22725-$24725
- 2.0T R-Spec (late availability, 6-speed manual transmission only) - N/A
- 3.8 V6 (6 speed) - $24517-$26517
- 3.8 V6 (ZF auto) - $25963-$27963
- 3.8 Grand Touring - $26124-$28124
- 3.8 Track - $27569-29569
prices where essentually rough conversions of the official canadian prices.
also her are the options
Genesis Coupe 2.0T: A more efficient take on the rEAR-Wheel drive sport coupe
Standard equipment includes:
· 2.0-liter, low-pressure, turbocharged, intercooled 4-cylinder engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated 210-hp (regular), estimated 220 hp (premium), an estimated 223 ft-lbs of torque (at just 2,000 rpm), an estimated 30 mpg EPA highway rating and an estimated top speed of 137 mph
· M6VR1 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: A5SR1 5-speed electronic automatic transmission with lockup torque converter and steering wheel-mounted paddle-shift Shiftronic controls)
· 18-inch Euroflange alloy wheels with staggered Bridgestone Potenza RE92A tires (P225/45VR18 front, P245/45VR18 rear)
· Electronic Stability Control with ABS, Electronic Brake-Force Distribution and Brake Assist
· 12.6-inch ventilated front rotors with 60mm single piston floating caliper
· 12.4-inch solid rear rotors with 43mm single piston floating caliper
· Sport-tuned MacPherson strut dual-link front suspension and five-link rear independent suspension, 24mm front stabilizer bar, 19mm rear stabilizer bar
· Strut brace
· Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
· Tire Pressure Monitoring System
· Front, side, side air curtain air bags
· Active front head restraints
· Driver’s lumbar support
· Black-out front lower fascia
· Trip computer
· Air conditioning
· Satin silver and chrome interior accents
· Keyless entry system
· Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
· Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
· AM/FM/XM/CD audio system with six speakers
· USB/iPod/Aux jack connectivity
· Steering wheel audio controls
· Cruise control
· Projector beam headlamps with auto light control
· Integrated Bluetooth including steering wheel controls
· Temporary spare with steel wheel (T135/90D17)
The 2.0T Premium model adds or substitutes:
· Power driver seat
· 360-watt AM/FM/XM/CD-changer Infinity premium audio system with 10 speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier, and diversity antenna
· Smart Key with push-button start
· Electrochromic mirror with HomeLink and compass
· Sunroof
· Navigation system (mid-year availability)
The factory-tuned 2.0T Track model builds from the 2.0T Premium, adding/substituting:
· 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
· Unique Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
· Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace
· Torsen-type limited-slip differential
· Black leather bolster seats with high-friction red cloth insert
· Aluminum pedals
· Aero windshield wipers
· Rear spoiler
· Xenon HID headlamps
· Fog lamps
· Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
· Navigation system (mid-year availability)
· Note: Automatic transmission not available with 2.0T Track
Later in the model year, a tuner-focused performance model, R-Spec, will arrive at Hyundai dealerships. Genesis Coupe R-Spec is meant to be the ultimate upgradeable, affordable, turbocharged rear-wheel drive performance platform. R-Spec equipment includes:
· 2.0-liter low-pressure turbocharged intercooled four-cylinder engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated 210-hp (regular), estimated 220-hp (premium), an estimated 30 mpg EPA highway rating and an estimated top speed of 137 mph
· 6-speed manual transmission
· Electronic Stability Control with ABS, Electronic Brake-Force Distribution and Brake Assist
· 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
· Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
· Track model suspension tuning (higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace)
· Torsen-type limited-slip differential
· Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
· Tire Pressure Monitoring System
· Front, side, side air curtain air bags
· Active front head restraints
· Driver’s lumbar support
· Air conditioning
· Keyless entry system
· Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
· Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
· AM/FM/XM/CD audio system with six speakers
· USB/iPod/Aux jack connectivity
· Projector beam headlamps
· Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
· Note: Automatic transmission not available with R-Spec
Genesis 3.8: 310 horsepower and standard leather interior – a new benchmark for performance and refinement in its class
Standard equipment includes 2.0T equipment, and adds or substitutes:
· 3.8L DOHC V6 engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated 306-hp (regular), 310-hp (premium), and a top speed of 149 mph
· M6VR2 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: ZF 6HP19 6-speed electronic automatic with lockup torque converter and steering wheel-mounted paddle-shift Shiftronic controls)
· Black leather seats
· Fully automatic temperature control
· Premium door sill plates
· Chrome front fascia accents
In addition to 3.8 equipment, the 3.8 Grand Touring adds or substitutes:
· Unique brown leather seat interior environment
· Power driver seat
· Heated driver and passenger seat
· 360-watt AM/FM/XM/CD-changer Infinity premium audio system with 10 speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier, and diversity antenna
· Smart Key with push-button start
· Xenon HID headlamps
· Electrochromic mirror with HomeLink and compass
· Heated mirrors with outside turn signal indicators
· Backup warning system
· Sunroof
· Navigation system (mid-year availability)
The factory-tuned 3.8 Track model deletes backup warning system and chrome front fascia accents from the Grand Touring model, and adds or substitutes:
· Black leather seats
· 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
· Unique Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
· Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace
· Torsen-type limited-slip differential
· Aluminum pedals
· Aero windshield wipers
· Rear spoiler
· Black-out front lower fascia
· Xenon HID headlamps
· Fog lamps
· Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
ya i just realized i koreaned the hell outta this thread if anyone has anymore question regarding the genesis coupe make a thread and ill be glad to share info
SeanPlunk
02-11-2009, 10:24 PM
hyundai dealers are usually packaged with another manufacture.
like over here the closes hyundai dealership is in ontario and coupled with a mazda dealership off jurupa and the I-15
there is another one in san bernardino where the 10 and 215 meet.
and chate.....oh chate chate as much as i dont aggree with the v6 because it will be limited as far as budget hp gains it is a nice starting point and a contender with the nissan 370z.
here are un-official US prices but real pricing should be somewhere in this ball park
2.0T ( 6 speed)- $17,700-$19,700
- 2.0T (automatic) - $18907-20907
- 2.0T Premium (6 speed)- $20,111-$22,111
- 2.0T Premium (automatic) - $21317-$23317
- 2.0T Track (6-speed manual transmission only) - $22725-$24725
- 2.0T R-Spec (late availability, 6-speed manual transmission only) - N/A
- 3.8 V6 (6 speed) - $24517-$26517
- 3.8 V6 (ZF auto) - $25963-$27963
- 3.8 Grand Touring - $26124-$28124
- 3.8 Track - $27569-29569
prices where essentually rough conversions of the official canadian prices.
also her are the options
Genesis Coupe 2.0T: A more efficient take on the rEAR-Wheel drive sport coupe
Standard equipment includes:
· 2.0-liter, low-pressure, turbocharged, intercooled 4-cylinder engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated 210-hp (regular), estimated 220 hp (premium), an estimated 223 ft-lbs of torque (at just 2,000 rpm), an estimated 30 mpg EPA highway rating and an estimated top speed of 137 mph
· M6VR1 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: A5SR1 5-speed electronic automatic transmission with lockup torque converter and steering wheel-mounted paddle-shift Shiftronic controls)
· 18-inch Euroflange alloy wheels with staggered Bridgestone Potenza RE92A tires (P225/45VR18 front, P245/45VR18 rear)
· Electronic Stability Control with ABS, Electronic Brake-Force Distribution and Brake Assist
· 12.6-inch ventilated front rotors with 60mm single piston floating caliper
· 12.4-inch solid rear rotors with 43mm single piston floating caliper
· Sport-tuned MacPherson strut dual-link front suspension and five-link rear independent suspension, 24mm front stabilizer bar, 19mm rear stabilizer bar
· Strut brace
· Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
· Tire Pressure Monitoring System
· Front, side, side air curtain air bags
· Active front head restraints
· Driver’s lumbar support
· Black-out front lower fascia
· Trip computer
· Air conditioning
· Satin silver and chrome interior accents
· Keyless entry system
· Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
· Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
· AM/FM/XM/CD audio system with six speakers
· USB/iPod/Aux jack connectivity
· Steering wheel audio controls
· Cruise control
· Projector beam headlamps with auto light control
· Integrated Bluetooth including steering wheel controls
· Temporary spare with steel wheel (T135/90D17)
The 2.0T Premium model adds or substitutes:
· Power driver seat
· 360-watt AM/FM/XM/CD-changer Infinity premium audio system with 10 speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier, and diversity antenna
· Smart Key with push-button start
· Electrochromic mirror with HomeLink and compass
· Sunroof
· Navigation system (mid-year availability)
The factory-tuned 2.0T Track model builds from the 2.0T Premium, adding/substituting:
· 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
· Unique Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
· Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace
· Torsen-type limited-slip differential
· Black leather bolster seats with high-friction red cloth insert
· Aluminum pedals
· Aero windshield wipers
· Rear spoiler
· Xenon HID headlamps
· Fog lamps
· Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
· Navigation system (mid-year availability)
· Note: Automatic transmission not available with 2.0T Track
Later in the model year, a tuner-focused performance model, R-Spec, will arrive at Hyundai dealerships. Genesis Coupe R-Spec is meant to be the ultimate upgradeable, affordable, turbocharged rear-wheel drive performance platform. R-Spec equipment includes:
· 2.0-liter low-pressure turbocharged intercooled four-cylinder engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated 210-hp (regular), estimated 220-hp (premium), an estimated 30 mpg EPA highway rating and an estimated top speed of 137 mph
· 6-speed manual transmission
· Electronic Stability Control with ABS, Electronic Brake-Force Distribution and Brake Assist
· 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
· Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
· Track model suspension tuning (higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace)
· Torsen-type limited-slip differential
· Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
· Tire Pressure Monitoring System
· Front, side, side air curtain air bags
· Active front head restraints
· Driver’s lumbar support
· Air conditioning
· Keyless entry system
· Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
· Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
· AM/FM/XM/CD audio system with six speakers
· USB/iPod/Aux jack connectivity
· Projector beam headlamps
· Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
· Note: Automatic transmission not available with R-Spec
Genesis 3.8: 310 horsepower and standard leather interior – a new benchmark for performance and refinement in its class
Standard equipment includes 2.0T equipment, and adds or substitutes:
· 3.8L DOHC V6 engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated 306-hp (regular), 310-hp (premium), and a top speed of 149 mph
· M6VR2 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: ZF 6HP19 6-speed electronic automatic with lockup torque converter and steering wheel-mounted paddle-shift Shiftronic controls)
· Black leather seats
· Fully automatic temperature control
· Premium door sill plates
· Chrome front fascia accents
In addition to 3.8 equipment, the 3.8 Grand Touring adds or substitutes:
· Unique brown leather seat interior environment
· Power driver seat
· Heated driver and passenger seat
· 360-watt AM/FM/XM/CD-changer Infinity premium audio system with 10 speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier, and diversity antenna
· Smart Key with push-button start
· Xenon HID headlamps
· Electrochromic mirror with HomeLink and compass
· Heated mirrors with outside turn signal indicators
· Backup warning system
· Sunroof
· Navigation system (mid-year availability)
The factory-tuned 3.8 Track model deletes backup warning system and chrome front fascia accents from the Grand Touring model, and adds or substitutes:
· Black leather seats
· 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
· Unique Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
· Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace
· Torsen-type limited-slip differential
· Aluminum pedals
· Aero windshield wipers
· Rear spoiler
· Black-out front lower fascia
· Xenon HID headlamps
· Fog lamps
· Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
ya i just realized i koreaned the hell outta this thread if anyone has anymore question regarding the genesis coupe make a thread and ill be glad to share info
Some of your into turned out to be false. On the plus side the R-Spec is going to cost less than the Track model. (http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/11/chicago-2009-hyundai-introduces-r-spec-genesis-coupe-for-enthus/)
Here is the overall list of pricing and some new pictures:
2010 Hyundai Genesis
Model Engine Package Transmission MSRP
Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl.Six-Speed Manual $22,000
Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl.Five-Speed A/T SHIFTRONIC® $23,250
Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl. Premium Six-Speed Manual $24,250
Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl. Premium Five-Speed A/T SHIFTRONIC® $25,500
Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl. Track Six-Speed Manual $26,750
Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl. R-Spec Six-Speed Manual $23,750
Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 Six-Speed Manual $25,000
Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 ZF Six-Speed A/T SHIFTRONIC® $26,500
Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 Grand Touring Six-Speed Manual $27,500
Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 Grand Touring ZF Six-Speed A/T SHIFTRONIC® $29,000
Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 Track Six-Speed Manual $29,500
Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 Track ZF Six-Speed A/T SHIFTRONIC® $31,000
GENESIS COUPE SPECIFICATIONS
• Configuration: Front engine, rear-wheel drive
• Wheelbase: 2820 mm / 111.0 inches
• Overall length: 4630 mm / 182.3 inches
• Overall width: 1865 mm / 73.4 inches
• Overall height: 1380 mm / 54.3 inches
• Wheels: 18-inch or 19-inch five-spoke
• Engine types: 3.8-liter V6 or 2.0-liter 4-cylinder turbo
• Est. horsepower V6: 306 @ 6,000 rpm (regular fuel)
• Est. horsepower V6: 310 @ 6,000 rpm (premium fuel)
• Est. torque V6: 263 lb. ft. @ 4,700 rpm (regular and premium fuel)
• Est. horsepower 2.0t: 212 @ 6,000 rpm (regular fuel)
• Est. horsepower 2.0t: 223 @ 6,000 rpm (premium fuel)
• Est. torque 2.0t: 217 lb. ft. @ 2,500 rpm (regular and premium fuel)
• Block & head materials: aluminum for both engines
• Valvetrain: DOHC for both engines
• Valve timing: continuously variable valve timing for both engines (Dual for 2.0t)
• Estimated 0-60 mph V6: under 6 seconds
• Transmission types: 6-speed manual, 5-speed automatic (4-cylinder) or 6-speed manual, 6-speed automatic (V6)
• Front brakes: 12.6-inch (standard) 13.4-inch (Brembo package)
• Rear brakes: 12.4-inch (standard) 13.0-inch (Brembo package)
• Front calipers: single piston floating (standard), monobloc four-piston (Brembo package)
• Rear calipers: single piston floating (standard) monobloc four-piston (Brembo package)
• Limited slip differential (Optional)
• Est. top speed: 149 mph (V6), 137 mph (2.0t)
• Base curb weight: 3549 lbs. (V6); 3439 lbs. (4-cylinder)
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f398/Xavier1320/cars/DSCF5327_retouch_club.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f398/Xavier1320/cars/IMG_7223.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f398/Xavier1320/cars/DSC_8341.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f398/Xavier1320/cars/DSC04227.jpg
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Chate
02-11-2009, 10:35 PM
seeeeeeeeeeexy
now the question i have is, base turbo and base v6 are ~3grand difference in price and about 90hp difference
how much power can you add for 3 grand???
though i did like st-evo's price ladder :(
SeanPlunk
02-11-2009, 10:39 PM
seeeeeeeeeeexy
now the question i have is, base turbo and base v6 are ~3grand difference in price and about 90hp difference
how much power can you add for 3 grand???
though i did like st-evo's price ladder :(
If it really is an Evo engine with a smaller turbo, then 3k should get you a bigger turbo, injectors, and a tune. It seems you could easily make 350+hp? I would need to know more about the engine internals before making a decision.
Vettezuki
02-11-2009, 11:18 PM
. . .
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f398/Xavier1320/cars/DSC04227.jpg
That is a damn good looking car. I'd go for the Turbo. No question you can reach more power than the V6 with less money. HOWEVER, nobody has mentioned what trans this has or how much power/torque it will hold. Kudos to the Koreans. :drink:
Chate
02-12-2009, 12:05 AM
Is "low pressure turbocharged" the korean language phrase for "turn up the boost as soon as you buy it"????
gsteichen
02-12-2009, 08:56 AM
the genesis coupe currently has some dealer early releases in dealerships, but i think in the next month or so they come out in full force...i know theyre taking pre-orders now and already have a cateloge out with packages.
and then in the summer the track model and R-Spec model come out.
the price break down is
base 2.0T 18-19k *no brembo, maybe lsd, no hid, no sunroof, no leather
luxury 2.0T 19-20k *maybe brembo, maybe lsd, sunrood and leather and hid
track 2.0T 20-22k *brembo, lsd, sport suspention, leather, hid, 19"rims+summer tires....and other little crap
R-Spec 2.0T 22-24k all of the above, with maybe some weight saving stuff, maybe carbon fiber, maybe a few more hp, and thats about all i know for now!
and ya vette you would generalize all asians....i guess they all do kinda look the same ?!!
Has anyone published a road test?? If this performs per the #'s and has decent buld quality DAMN!
st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*
02-12-2009, 11:36 AM
lol my bad on the prices those where everyone speculations on the genesis coupe forum but the next day the official prices and specs came out from hyundai!
but the R-Spec seems fuckin perfect its the 2nd cheapest and comes with all the performance crap u want with none of the bs!! so thats what imma buy next.
also there is a tech from hyundai on the forum and he said the trannys are gonna be slightly different from v6 to I4
the turbo is get a shorter 1st and 2nd and 3rd gear *similar to evo gearing but 4-6 are the same on both models.....he said it was to make up for the lack of power on the 2.0L also the rear end LSD on both cars might be different. and then to top it off u better make sure u buy or drive a model that at leasts comes with lsd because not all do!
and ya the low pressure turbo phrase really makes it sould like they're saying turn that bitch up it supposed to boost 6-8psi......so ya it needs to be turned up to at least 22-24 to get my balls tingling!
and as for dyno numbers and modded numbers well....
if u look it up on youtube there is one 2 or 3 part video of some koreans that put this thing on a dynojet and got 19Xhp stock. and then threw some ecu tuning and upping the boost threw the ecu they got like 25xhp i believe
then there is another video of the koreans that put a similar turbo to mine in the genesis i think w/o cams but just abou tall the other mods i have are up there. and on 100octane he made 410-420hp on a dynojet something like that. on the stock block/head and tranny.....so im hoping with a little bit of ethanol and cams and a proper mans tune 500hp should be a knock knock knocking on heavens door!!!!
SeanPlunk
02-12-2009, 12:05 PM
lol my bad on the prices those where everyone speculations on the genesis coupe forum but the next day the official prices and specs came out from hyundai!
but the R-Spec seems fuckin perfect its the 2nd cheapest and comes with all the performance crap u want with none of the bs!! so thats what imma buy next.
also there is a tech from hyundai on the forum and he said the trannys are gonna be slightly different from v6 to I4
the turbo is get a shorter 1st and 2nd and 3rd gear *similar to evo gearing but 4-6 are the same on both models.....he said it was to make up for the lack of power on the 2.0L also the rear end LSD on both cars might be different. and then to top it off u better make sure u buy or drive a model that at leasts comes with lsd because not all do!
and ya the low pressure turbo phrase really makes it sould like they're saying turn that bitch up it supposed to boost 6-8psi......so ya it needs to be turned up to at least 22-24 to get my balls tingling!
and as for dyno numbers and modded numbers well....
if u look it up on youtube there is one 2 or 3 part video of some koreans that put this thing on a dynojet and got 19Xhp stock. and then threw some ecu tuning and upping the boost threw the ecu they got like 25xhp i believe
then there is another video of the koreans that put a similar turbo to mine in the genesis i think w/o cams but just abou tall the other mods i have are up there. and on 100octane he made 410-420hp on a dynojet something like that. on the stock block/head and tranny.....so im hoping with a little bit of ethanol and cams and a proper mans tune 500hp should be a knock knock knocking on heavens door!!!!
I've read it's 10psi stock, but I've also heard that the Turbo is good up until 25psi. It all seems to be a bit of speculation at this point though. I also have not heard any exact details on the rods and pistons in the turbo 4 version. I would want to know that before really turning up the boost...
Chate
02-12-2009, 12:08 PM
wow
so this car is already available in the east right? why havent people modded the crap out of it by now??? all the info on the internals should be available somewhere right?
SoCalC55
02-12-2009, 12:25 PM
hawt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pye1Iy0bjxk&eurl=http://www.dpccars.com/car-videos-09/02-13-09page-Hyundai-Genesis-Coupe-R-SPEC.htm
st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*
02-12-2009, 04:07 PM
hawt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pye1Iy0bjxk&eurl=http://www.dpccars.com/car-videos-09/02-13-09page-Hyundai-Genesis-Coupe-R-SPEC.htm
damn thats pure sex!!! also the guy who is gonna tune that car for pikes peak is the evo shop i go too :-D!!
damn i guess hyundai has been saving there pennies and waiting for the perfect moment to pounce and become a leader/performance contender in the auto market and they seem to be doing it big now! good for them.
and as far as the previous comment on the rods and pistons.
i remember someone posting on the genesis forums that the rods and 2 bolt main might be questionable on this car.
but as the youtube video from korea suggests it can take 400+hp so far no prob......but we shall see
st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*
02-12-2009, 04:25 PM
360hp 300tq on..
a similar intake side turbo as mine but bigger laggier ex. side which explains for the crappy tq
exhaust
intake
no cam
no bigger injectors
korean pump gas watever that is???
YouTube - Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0l Upgraded Turbo Dyno Run
i cant seem to find those other videos i found a week ago??? :bang:
SeanPlunk
02-12-2009, 04:56 PM
360hp 300tq on..
a similar intake side turbo as mine but bigger laggier ex. side which explains for the crappy tq
exhaust
intake
no cam
no bigger injectors
korean pump gas watever that is???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_UN0cvXr7g
i cant seem to find those other videos i found a week ago??? :bang:
I wonder what the stock turbo is good for? I'm frustrated with the lack of information on the stock bottom end :rant:
Vettezuki
02-12-2009, 05:09 PM
I wonder what the stock turbo is good for? I'm frustrated with the lack of information on the stock bottom end :rant:
Call up Hyundai North America HQ and ask to talk either the Genesis Marketing Manager or better yet (if they have one) Product Manager. If they ask who you are, tell them you're writing a tech article for an online forum and would like some details about the driveline options not covered in their press literature. You might be surprised just how open they will be with you.
Vettezuki
03-08-2009, 01:11 AM
This car is growing on my more and more. Check the gallery kiddies for some modded variants:
http://motorgen.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1986
st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*
03-08-2009, 11:17 AM
that semi glass one is nice ive seen other pics of it around and come to find out its a vinyl.
also ive been roaming across dealerships from victorville, to ontario, to temecula and they all have the same freaking V6 in automatic :-(.
im itching for a test drive an the turbo model but it doesnt get officially released till next week or maybe the week after i forgot. but there is a video on youtube of an orange turbo model in san diego where a kid is taking a test drive....lucky prick!
also when talking to all the dealerships as usual no one knows when theyre getting there invintory and no one knows anything about the car. but the vibe all of them gave off where.....that a shit load of people have already came in asking about the 2.0l manual model and that they are so suprised that people are enthusiastic about a hyundai its funny. the salesman in ontario was like you the 30th person that came in today asking about that model. you can tell theyre all excited for it to come out and sell like hot cakes.
the guy in temecula was like man u have an evo and you rather go to a hyundai then the evo 10 man either your crazy or times really hit you hard. hahaha he was funny
Vettezuki
03-08-2009, 12:58 PM
Hyundai FTW. Do you know who/where it was designed?
st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*
03-08-2009, 03:00 PM
Hyundai FTW. Do you know who/where it was designed?
idk the exact place in korea or the exact location of the plant but its basicly in korea 100%
Vettezuki
03-08-2009, 03:04 PM
idk the exact place in korea or the exact location of the plant but its basicly in korea 100%
Including Korean designers? At the risk of sounding completely racist, that's impressive. I mean it's quite a leap in design concept for Hyundai. I would have expected that they hired a European (because that's the flavor) design team. If they did it all in house with local talent, it's an even more impressive accomplishment. :bigthumbsup:
st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*
03-08-2009, 06:27 PM
Including Korean designers? At the risk of sounding completely racist, that's impressive. I mean it's quite a leap in design concept for Hyundai. I would have expected that they hired a European (because that's the flavor) design team. If they did it all in house with local talent, it's an even more impressive accomplishment. :bigthumbsup:
ya believe me thats pretty much the same reaction all around lol.
but really if you take a good look at what the genesis was supposed to go up against which is the 370z/g37/cobalt and then take a look at where it came from *the tiburon essentually* you can see the design has some borrowed features along with some natural progression looks from hyundais line of cars. but in the end of the day it came out to be a nice a looking finish.
i think where they did get help was mechanically, the V6 was their design, but the 4cyl was a group design by mitsu/chrysler/hyundai
the tranny/drivetrain *manual and paddel shift* is looking like it maybe be coming from the same parent company that made the evo's, and the suspension is looking alot like the evo design. so i really think maybe they kinda did just use alot of mitsubishi's resourses to build this car.
but for the most part its an in house car. unlike the GTR which is pretty euro
Vettezuki
03-08-2009, 08:33 PM
. . . but for the most part its an in house car. unlike the GTR which is pretty euro
Que? Except for a few bits like Brembo, the GT-R is Japanese, possibly to a fault. Though they make no bones about their mark being a Turbo Porsche. Are we talking about the same car?
SeanPlunk
03-09-2009, 05:42 PM
Here are the first details (http://www.autoblog.com/2009/03/09/beyond-redline-dissects-hyundai-genesis-coupes-new-2-0t-motor/)on the internals in the 2.0. It's not nearly as stout as an Evo, but should still hold pretty good power.
Vettezuki
03-09-2009, 06:17 PM
Here are the first details (http://www.autoblog.com/2009/03/09/beyond-redline-dissects-hyundai-genesis-coupes-new-2-0t-motor/)on the internals in the 2.0. It's not nearly as stout as an Evo, but should still hold pretty good power.
Let's define "pretty good power". From the article:
Beyond Redline expects the engine's sturdy components and 86mm stroke and bore to make 400 wheel-horsepower and rev to 8,000 RPM with the proper mods and a stock block.
Beyond that you gotta start laying down some scratch to reinforce things. I wonder if in a year or two they will go with a legit EvoX block when they see the interest is through the roof, as it seems it is. I think most of these prospective buyers would pay on the order of $1-2k more for a full-tilt, highly tunable EvoX engine. :huh:
st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*
03-10-2009, 02:13 PM
Let's define "pretty good power". From the article:
Beyond that you gotta start laying down some scratch to reinforce things. I wonder if in a year or two they will go with a legit EvoX block when they see the interest is through the roof, as it seems it is. I think most of these prospective buyers would pay on the order of $1-2k more for a full-tilt, highly tunable EvoX engine. :huh:
the gtr was the brain child of nissans new president *enter some french name* who is also the president of renault. there was a documentary about this guy and the making of the gtr on the discovery channel and how he is viewed as a god for bringing nissan back and unleashing "godzilla"
anywho as for the gen coupe, ya that redline shop had there engine tear down of the engine on the gen coupe forums for a few weeks, it does suck that 400 is seeming like the max point for the engine. i was really hopping for at learst 500 just so i can hit 500 w/o any major work. but who knows maybe it could suprise us. everyone thought the old evo motor couldnt hold past 450-500hp and there are a few out there doing 550-650 daily driving it. then again that was a beefy iron block.
and the evo 10 motor is seeing 450 pretty averagly now and give it a few more months and im sure 500 will be the daily norm. but when they first came out no one thought they would gain hp as well as the old evo motors and they estimated a 400hp cap on the hp before something broke and well they are proving both of those estimate wrong.
now as for gen coupe motor an 8k redline is just useless it doesnt have the powerband to put that to good use, and once you start adding power and bigger cams and messing with the VVT at 400hp id keep the rev limit too 7-7.5k
at the hp on a properly sized turbo like a 30r its gonna start dying off at the 6.8-7k rpm mark anyways. but on the flip side if you put in the proper supports for a bigger cam have a more top end/laggy oriented turbo the 8k redline would be nice for drag racing.
i think im just way to excited for this car and overthinking the whole thing haha
Vettezuki
03-10-2009, 03:36 PM
the gtr was the brain child of nissans new president *enter some french name* who is also the president of renault. there was a documentary about this guy and the making of the gtr on the discovery channel and how he is viewed as a god for bringing nissan back and unleashing "godzilla"
The great Carlos Goshn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Ghosn) had the corporate vision, but the GT-R is almost entirely the product of Chief Vehicle Engineer Kazutoshi Mizuno.
. . . i think im just way to excited for this car and overthinking the whole thing haha
OCD FTW LOL JK.
st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*
03-10-2009, 05:08 PM
The great Carlos Goshn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Ghosn) had the corporate vision, but the GT-R is almost entirely the product of Chief Vehicle Engineer Kazutoshi Mizuno.
OCD FTW LOL JK.
ya your right about the gtr i guess i jumped on the carlos goshn being god band wagon and gave him the full credit haha
and hell ya OCD ftw haha
ive already talked with the company that makes my turbo *buschur* and if things go a bit slow with the evo ive asked them about making a manifold/turbo exit pipe, intake, and turbo exhaust dump pipe to the stock exhaust for the genesis coupe to fit my current evo turbo on it, and the said when they get there shop gen coupe in about 2 weeks after they are done coming up with the bolt on parts they will make me a bolt on set up for the evo turbo. so if the gen coupe version i wants ends up in my hands by this year imma try and be the first with an e85 at least 400hp hyundai haha.
so we shall see how that whole plan works out :rolleyes:
Vettezuki
03-10-2009, 05:51 PM
. . .
ive already talked with the company that makes my turbo *buschur* and if things go a bit slow with the evo ive asked them about making a manifold/turbo exit pipe, intake, and turbo exhaust dump pipe to the stock exhaust for the genesis coupe to fit my current evo turbo on it, and the said when they get there shop gen coupe in about 2 weeks after they are done coming up with the bolt on parts they will make me a bolt on set up for the evo turbo. so if the gen coupe version i wants ends up in my hands by this year imma try and be the first with an e85 at least 400hp hyundai haha.
so we shall see how that whole plan works out :rolleyes:
Out of curiosity, how much does that kind of setup (custom work) cost you. I'm tempted sometimes to add significantly to my machine tool, and fabrication resources. If I thought I could make a little scratch for custom one-offs, I'd entertain the idea more.
st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*
03-10-2009, 10:30 PM
Out of curiosity, how much does that kind of setup (custom work) cost you. I'm tempted sometimes to add significantly to my machine tool, and fabrication resources. If I thought I could make a little scratch for custom one-offs, I'd entertain the idea more.
for the whole custom one off set up which migh end up being the status quo set up.
*hook up= close friend pricing
ex header - $300-400...........hook up $100
turbo ex dump piece $100-250....hook up $50
turbo outlet pipe $60-100.........hook up $40
intake pipe - $150-250............hook up $50
universal oil/coolant lines $100
so if you where to actually make a kit out of it so say bolt up an evo turbo to a gen coupe, or any car combination, you could make some ok scratch off it.
just make sure your welds are top notch and never crack, and make everything fit like a glove, and advertive as made in the USA and say u actually put r&d into your products then people will come in groves and jizz all over you.
then you can actually start buying up garrett turbo's in whole sale and doing port jobs on them and shove them into new cars you can become big. its really not hard what companys do out there just alot of them get lazy or cant weld or screw up what they ship out. as long as your ontop of ur game u could make some money!
i say do it because i dont like paying full price for stuff and you know you wanna help a motorgen OG out haha :drink:
Vettezuki
03-11-2009, 02:28 AM
for the whole custom one off set up which migh end up being the status quo set up.
*hook up= close friend pricing
ex header - $300-400...........hook up $100
turbo ex dump piece $100-250....hook up $50
turbo outlet pipe $60-100.........hook up $40
intake pipe - $150-250............hook up $50
universal oil/coolant lines $100
so if you where to actually make a kit out of it so say bolt up an evo turbo to a gen coupe, or any car combination, you could make some ok scratch off it.
just make sure your welds are top notch and never crack, and make everything fit like a glove, and advertive as made in the USA and say u actually put r&d into your products then people will come in groves and jizz all over you.
then you can actually start buying up garrett turbo's in whole sale and doing port jobs on them and shove them into new cars you can become big. its really not hard what companys do out there just alot of them get lazy or cant weld or screw up what they ship out. as long as your ontop of ur game u could make some money!
i say do it because i dont like paying full price for stuff and you know you wanna help a motorgen OG out haha :drink:
I have taken your information under advisement. I'm like totally professional when it comes to details of transactions. Welding is the key here . . . it is a real skill when you're talking about headers and especially anything in aluminum. But I always thought I could do anything I wanted . . . so we'll see. At best, wouldn't be soon. I am getting my garage wired with a sub panel,including some 240 circuits this Friday. :drink:
st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*
03-11-2009, 11:02 AM
I have taken your information under advisement. I'm like totally professional when it comes to details of transactions. Welding is the key here . . . it is a real skill when you're talking about headers and especially anything in aluminum. But I always thought I could do anything I wanted . . . so we'll see. At best, wouldn't be soon. I am getting my garage wired with a sub panel,including some 240 circuits this Friday. :drink:
ya that would be cool if you got into that and get your garage dset up like a mini shop.
my auto teacher right now has a gangster ass set up at his house! his whole garage is a machine/auto shot, he has everything in there from a baking oven, boring bar, honing machine, hydrolice spring compressor, mig welder, tig welder, pipe bender, hydrolic press, crank balancer, sonic tester, valve grinder, stone valve seat set....about to get a hydrolic valve seat serdi machine, and mani mani more machines and kits he is insane. and build crazy sbc engines, but he has done full street and race rebulds for sbf, honduh's, 53 cadi, and a crap load more.
the only downside to his work is that he charges ALOT!! to pay for his equipment but his work is amazing!!!
also if your project needs head work like bigger valves, valve guide fix or what not or if you need it bored and honed toss it my way sense im able to use the class equipment for free while im in the class, and doing that stuff is so amazingly easy, i can see the only reason machine work cost so much is to pay for the equipment pretty much.
SeanPlunk
03-11-2009, 11:46 AM
Steve,
If you're really looking for one - give Steve at Santa Ana Hyundai a call. He's a friend's dad.
Sean
Vettezuki
03-11-2009, 12:10 PM
ya that would be cool if you got into that and get your garage dset up like a mini shop.
my auto teacher right now has a gangster ass set up at his house! his whole garage is a machine/auto shot, he has everything in there from a baking oven, boring bar, honing machine, hydrolice spring compressor, mig welder, tig welder, pipe bender, hydrolic press, crank balancer, sonic tester, valve grinder, stone valve seat set....about to get a hydrolic valve seat serdi machine, and mani mani more machines and kits he is insane. and build crazy sbc engines, but he has done full street and race rebulds for sbf, honduh's, 53 cadi, and a crap load more.
the only downside to his work is that he charges ALOT!! to pay for his equipment but his work is amazing!!!
also if your project needs head work like bigger valves, valve guide fix or what not or if you need it bored and honed toss it my way sense im able to use the class equipment for free while im in the class, and doing that stuff is so amazingly easy, i can see the only reason machine work cost so much is to pay for the equipment pretty much.
Yeah, you gotta recoup your capital investment. For that kind of stuff it gets heavy fast, especially if you start talking about mills and lathes etc.
Our heads have BIG valves, but our pistons don't have big enough reliefs. We "could" fly cut them in place, but if we could remove the whole rotating assembly, fly cut the pistons and balance the whole assembly after said fly cutting, that'd be something to consider. Is this something you can handle without hurting yourself or someone else? :smack:
st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*
03-11-2009, 03:57 PM
Yeah, you gotta recoup your capital investment. For that kind of stuff it gets heavy fast, especially if you start talking about mills and lathes etc.
Our heads have BIG valves, but our pistons don't have big enough reliefs. We "could" fly cut them in place, but if we could remove the whole rotating assembly, fly cut the pistons and balance the whole assembly after said fly cutting, that'd be something to consider. Is this something you can handle without hurting yourself or someone else? :smack:
as far as the cranks balancer or w/e that he will be teaching us in the next few weeks or so, my teacher would be walking us threw the whole thing on a one by one basis for anyone who brings in there own projects and like i said if its a ford/chevey v8 he can bang it out with his eyes closed. just let me know what exactly you guys want and ill let him know and bring it in.
i think the only other thing you guys will have to give me besides the engine will be an engine stand to keep it set on,
as far as my evo engine the only thing im waiting on is for the classes soda blast machine to come in sometime this semester hopefully, they have a sand blaster but im really shakey about the idea or little sand pelets getting stuck in my oil and coolant journals if i dont wash it out well or if the washer doesnt fully get them out, being as how its my first engine build i can see little things like this getting sour quick :suicide: haha
st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*
03-11-2009, 08:54 PM
Steve,
If you're really looking for one - give Steve at Santa Ana Hyundai a call. He's a friend's dad.
Sean
ya for sure when im ready ill give him a call, like i said before he is willing to hook it up below msrp i know every tom dick and jane on the genesiscoupe forum in socal will purchase from there and maybe if they couls set up a "forum member" discount for cars and parts they would be set.
you can tell that hyundai dealerships havent had any car group followings, like nissan/mitsu/toyota etc.. from there car forum groups alot of the guys where like there is a group forum already and the cars not out? hahah it was cute
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