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Vettezuki
12-31-2008, 03:13 PM
Need and SHOULD are two different things. A cage would add strength also, especially if you gut the doors, lexan the windshield, yada yada. If you installed one first, it would keep everything square to the world before you take the sawz all to it. (IMHO):drink:

It's a good point. Wouldn't be that much more expensive and would increase the quality/value of the platform. Something to consider seriously. We know a VERY good cage builder, maybe we can get a good deal.

At what point should the cage be installed? Pretty early on right?


bird, I'm hoping you can help out all over as the mood strikes you, but maybe especially with some bad ass switchgear setup and bulletproof electrical system. :drink:

Leedom
12-31-2008, 03:25 PM
I think that installing the cage once the interior is gutted would be good. Before we worry about the drive train and suspension install. The cage and suspension should be considered together to an extent.

How about RX Snake?

I like the name! Other options would be RX-302 or Snakada.

big2bird
12-31-2008, 03:40 PM
It's a good point. Wouldn't be that much more expensive and would increase the quality/value of the platform. Something to consider seriously. We know a VERY good cage builder, maybe we can get a good deal.

At what point should the cage be installed? Pretty early on right?
Yep. After you have a plan, but before any major changes. It will never be as straight as before you begin.

bird, I'm hoping you can help out all over as the mood strikes you, but maybe especially with some bad ass switchgear setup and bulletproof electrical system. :drink:

Not a problem. Been there/done that/more times than I care to remember.:drink:

94cobra69ss396
01-03-2009, 06:17 PM
Any of you local fellers got a trailer? This car is going to have to make at least two separate trips on a trailer (pick up, cage). Or might you have a line on a decent cheap trailer. Otherwise we can just rent as needed.

Ben, I haven't read far enough to see if this was answered yet but I have a trailer. Also, if it hasn't been arranged yet I can build a cage for it. I have a couple buddies with tube benders. The only thing we would need is the tubing.

Vettezuki
01-03-2009, 07:49 PM
Ben, I haven't read far enough to see if this was answered yet but I have a trailer. Also, if it hasn't been arranged yet I can build a cage for it. I have a couple buddies with tube benders. The only thing we would need is the tubing.

How much tubing and it's yours :)

94cobra69ss396
01-03-2009, 08:13 PM
How much tubing and it's yours :)

Let me talk to Throttle Crazy and see how many sticks it will take. You want a 6 point roll bar that is NHRA legal to 10.00 correct?

94cobra69ss396
01-03-2009, 08:18 PM
I tried to look at the car from link but it has been pulled. Is it a Gen 1 or 2?

Vettezuki
01-03-2009, 10:15 PM
Let me talk to Throttle Crazy and see how many sticks it will take. You want a 6 point roll bar that is NHRA legal to 10.00 correct?

Yes. My primary concern is safety for the driver. I expect mid 11s out of the car. With a 6 point we'll also improve total torsional rigidity and make the car more capable for other than straight line performance. Let's comply with NHRA rules and get it certified.

Vettezuki
01-03-2009, 10:15 PM
I tried to look at the car from link but it has been pulled. Is it a Gen 1 or 2?

Uh, what link are you talking about. I'm just getting ready to post the first pics.

94cobra69ss396
01-04-2009, 02:31 PM
I spoke to Throttle Crazy and he thinks we'll need 3 sticks to do the roll bar. We both want to get some sticks for other projects as well so we'll just pick them up. Once you guys have the car stripped let me know and I'll come pick it up to do it. We'll want to install the roll bar before you put it up on blocks.

enkeivette
01-04-2009, 02:44 PM
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/KeywordSearchCmd?storeId=10001&catalogId=10002&langId=-1&N=0&Ntt=rx7+roll+bar&Ntk=all&Nty=1&D=rx7+roll+bar&Ntx=mode%2Bmatchallany&Dx=mode%2Bmatchallany&searchTerm=rx7+roll+bar

94cobra69ss396
01-04-2009, 02:56 PM
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/KeywordSearchCmd?storeId=10001&catalogId=10002&langId=-1&N=0&Ntt=rx7+roll+bar&Ntk=all&Nty=1&D=rx7+roll+bar&Ntx=mode%2Bmatchallany&Dx=mode%2Bmatchallany&searchTerm=rx7+roll+bar

None of those are complete kits. Summit carries a kit that includes everything but the main hoop but you have to cut it all to fit anyways. It's easier just to start with 20ft sticks and make your own. This is what I'm going to build.

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/cee-3021.jpg

This is the same that I have in my Chevelle.

enkeivette
01-04-2009, 04:21 PM
None of those are complete kits. Summit carries a kit that includes everything but the main hoop but you have to cut it all to fit anyways. It's easier just to start with 20ft sticks and make your own. This is what I'm going to build.

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/cee-3021.jpg

This is the same that I have in my Chevelle.

:beer: I'm excited to watch you build it.

big2bird
01-04-2009, 06:51 PM
So, on a unibody, what do you anchor the cage to? Bulkhead the stress points?
I peeked at the car today. The boys were stripping away.(The car):D
Save the oil cooler, but a straight line car doesn't need one.
Keep up the good work.;)

94cobra69ss396
01-04-2009, 07:39 PM
So, on a unibody, what do you anchor the cage to? Bulkhead the stress points?
I peeked at the car today. The boys were stripping away.(The car):D
Save the oil cooler, but a straight line car doesn't need one.
Keep up the good work.;)

NHRA rules say that the roll bar needs to be attached to the body on a unibody car (RX7) or to the frame on full frame cars (like my Chevelle). I'm going to use 6x6 inch plate to attach it to the floor pan. On my Chevelle I cut the floor out and welded the roll bar to the frame and then I used plate to fill in the holes I cut and welded the plate to the cage as well.

Vettezuki
01-04-2009, 07:47 PM
NHRA rules say that the roll bar needs to be attached to the body on a unibody car (RX7) or to the frame on full frame cars (like my Chevelle). I'm going to use 6x6 inch plate to attach it to the floor pan. On my Chevelle I cut the floor out and welded the roll bar to the frame and then I used plate to fill in the holes I cut and welded the plate to the cage as well.

You'll see, but there is some (hopefully irrelevent) damage to the underside. Looks like it had been picked up with fork lift or something once. I think I'll have her ready for pick up by the end of the week. Does next weekend work for you? Are you going to CSW on the 10th?

94cobra69ss396
01-04-2009, 08:03 PM
You'll see, but there is some (hopefully irrelevent) damage to the underside. Looks like it had been picked up with fork lift or something once. I think I'll have her ready for pick up by the end of the week. Does next weekend work for you? Are you going to CSW on the 10th?

I think I am going to CSW on the 10th. If I do I'll be in the Cobra because I don't have DOT legal slicks for the Chevelle.

Are you sure the car is straight? Throttle Crazy has a frame machine in his body shop. I might be able to get him to put it on and make sure it's straight before we fab up the cage. If it's not maybe we can straighten it first and then do the cage.

Thottle Crazy and I are putting together a ZZ383 for his Jimmy this week and I think we're going to drop it in this weekend. If you can get the car stripped by Sunday maybe I can come down and pick it up then.

Vettezuki
01-04-2009, 08:07 PM
I think I am going to CSW on the 10th. If I do I'll be in the Cobra because I don't have DOT legal slicks for the Chevelle.

Are you sure the car is straight? Throttle Crazy has a frame machine in his body shop. I might be able to get him to put it on and make sure it's straight before we fab up the cage. If it's not maybe we can straighten it first and then do the cage.

Thottle Crazy and I are putting together a ZZ383 for his Jimmy this week and I think we're going to drop it in this weekend. If you can get the car stripped by Sunday maybe I can come down and pick it up then.

If it works for you Sunday will be great. I'm not sure its straight, however, nothing is obviously out of place. Doors open and close correctly and line up with the body acceptably. Some for the hood. So I think it's ok. But if it can be technically verified on a frame straightener, all the better. :thumbs_up:

enkeivette
01-04-2009, 08:09 PM
I haven't seen any evidence of body work on this car, I'd be willing to bet that it's straight. You guys might want to heat it up and pound the floor out before you get started though.

94cobra69ss396
01-11-2009, 08:45 PM
I picked up the car today from Ben and I took it over to my buddy Joe's house to make the main hoop. The first thing we did was measure the height and width where we are going to install the main hoop. Joe already has some pre bent tubes so we used those to check the fitment. Once we had a the mesurements Joe drew up a diagram using those measurements. We then cut a section of tube and proceeded to make the bends. After each bend we laid the main hoop down on the diagram to make sure it matched up.

This is a picture of the diagram drawn on the garage floor.

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/051.JPG

Here's one of Joe marking the tube before bending it.

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/053.JPG

Here's one after the first two bends.

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/056.JPG

I didn't get one of the finished product. I got busy and forgot to snap some but I added a red arrow so you can see where the third bend was. Same for the fourth bend but on the other side.

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/054.JPG

Here's one of Kylie and Mya helping with the cage.

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/052.JPG

I want to thank Joe for his help and the use of the tube bender. Also for giving me some pre cut 4x4 plate for the floor attachments.

I'll start prepping the floor tomorrow night and hopefully get the main hoop welded in place. I'll post more pictures of it as well.

94cobra69ss396
01-13-2009, 11:22 PM
I finished installing the main hoop tonight. Here are some pictures. I remembered to take them this time.

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/003.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/004.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/005.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/006.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/007.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/008.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/009.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/010.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/011.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/012.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/013.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/014.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/015.JPG

SeanPlunk
01-13-2009, 11:29 PM
I finished installing the main hoop tonight. Here are some pictures. I remembered to take them this time.

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/003.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/004.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/005.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/006.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/007.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/008.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/009.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/010.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/011.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/012.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/013.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/014.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/015.JPG

Wow Ron, that looks awesome :hail:

Vettezuki
01-13-2009, 11:32 PM
Great! I'm getting even more excited than when this project started. Are those your welds?

94cobra69ss396
01-13-2009, 11:37 PM
Great! I'm getting even more excited than when this project started. Are those your welds?

Yes. They have a little splatter but I haven't cleaned them up at all. It took me about 3 1/2 hours to install it and I just finished at 10:00pm so I didn't clean them up. I figure once I finish the entire thing we can clean up the splatter.

Vettezuki
01-14-2009, 12:17 AM
Yes. They have a little splatter but I haven't cleaned them up at all. It took me about 3 1/2 hours to install it and I just finished at 10:00pm so I didn't clean them up. I figure once I finish the entire thing we can clean up the splatter.

Some of that falls into the body work category so don't sweat it too much.

BTW, there's some anti-splatter spray that works pretty good to keep that stuff down to a minimum. The pics look pretty clean.

enkeivette
01-14-2009, 02:21 AM
That is some clean work! Nice job guys!

Vettezuki
01-14-2009, 02:51 AM
That is some clean work! Nice job guys!

Maybe in a few weeks to a month or so, you'll get to start making your mark. Literally.

BTW, like your sig, though I'd go with the passive form: " Objects in the mirror have been punished."

big2bird
01-14-2009, 06:35 AM
BTW, there's some anti-splatter spray that works pretty good to keep that stuff down to a minimum. The pics look pretty clean.

WD40 does the same thing.;)

big2bird
01-14-2009, 06:37 AM
The cage looks good so far. You do nice work.
The dash is all coming out. Go wherever you need/is strongest. Maybe thru the firewall to tie in the front.
Are you putting swing outs for the front seat?

94cobra69ss396
01-14-2009, 08:23 AM
The cage looks good so far. You do nice work.
The dash is all coming out. Go wherever you need/is strongest. Maybe thru the firewall to tie in the front.
Are you putting swing outs for the front seat?

I'm not that good, I'm just making a standard 8 point roll bar. It should be plenty strong for our car and engine combo.

enkeivette
01-14-2009, 07:16 PM
Ben, if you want to buy some cheap primer, I'll spray the roll bar once it's finished to keep the rust off. :thumbs_up:

94cobra69ss396
01-14-2009, 07:34 PM
Ben, if you want to buy some cheap primer, I'll spray the roll bar once it's finished to keep the rust off. :thumbs_up:

I have some good etching primer that I'll spray it with.

big2bird
01-14-2009, 08:34 PM
I'm not that good, I'm just making a standard 8 point roll bar. It should be plenty strong for our car and engine combo.

Your doing a great job. Don't sell yourself short. Kudos.:drink:

94cobra69ss396
01-15-2009, 11:29 PM
I finished the rear bars tonight. The winds have been really bad out here so yesterday it took me 2 1/2 hours just to get one plate welded to the floor. I had to keep grinding down the weld and redo it because it was splattering bad. :bang: So if it doesn't look perfect tuff luck it still got good penetration. Also, I haven't welded the top of the bars to the main hoop for the same reason. I'll grind down what is there now and do them again.

I didn't take any pictures of the tubes while I was making them but all I did was measured the length that I wanted then used a 1 3/4 hole saw to cut the tube in half. That way I already had the notched ends. Then I cut them to length and angle cut the bottom with a saws all.

Here's some pictures from last night and tonight.

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/0051.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/0061.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/0071.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/0081.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/0091.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/0101.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/0111.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/0121.JPG

94cobra69ss396
01-28-2009, 12:47 PM
I finished the cross bar and seat belt mount on Saturday. Here are a couple pictures.

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/DSCF3320.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/DSCF3321.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/DSCF3323.JPG

Vettezuki
01-28-2009, 02:36 PM
:drink::thumbs_up:

94cobra69ss396
01-28-2009, 04:52 PM
Sorry it's taking so long. I just got the second stick of tubing yesterday so I can start on the door bars and the main hoop supports. I'll start with the mian hoop supports tonight and see how far I get. I'm going to reinforce the area where they are going to be welded to the floor with some 3" plate first. I'll take some pictures as I go along.

94cobra69ss396
01-28-2009, 05:44 PM
You can see in this picture the area that I'm going to add plate to from the green arrow on the right and then what I plan on it looking like on the left. The plate I'm going to use is on the far right laying on the floor.
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/main_support_diagram.JPG

Leedom
01-28-2009, 11:39 PM
Ron,

You are doing a hell of a job!! Keep up the good work.:thumbs_up:

94cobra69ss396
01-29-2009, 12:23 AM
Thanks Adam. I worked on it for about 3.5 hours tonight. I finished the plates for the main hoop supports and got them welded in and I made one support bar and got it welded in. Here are some more pictures.

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/0151.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/016.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/017.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/018.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/019.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/020.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/021.JPG

Vettezuki
01-31-2009, 10:23 PM
Ron, I have an aquainence at work he had a V8-RX7. He still has the Granny Speed Cross Member and trans mount for a SBC with TKO. (I didn't know this until after we started our project.) I can get these to look at if not use. Would these be of use to you or do you already have a clear idea in mind?

94cobra69ss396
01-31-2009, 10:32 PM
Ron, I have an aquainence at work he had a V8-RX7. He still has the Granny Speed Cross Member and trans mount for a SBC with TKO. (I didn't know this until after we started our project.) I can get these to look at if not use. Would these be of use to you or do you already have a clear idea in mind?

Get them from him if he'll give them to you. I'm not sure what we need to do yet to install the engine and trans but I'll look at that when the cage is done. When I looked at the kit that Grannys Speed was selling for the 2nd gen with a SBF it was just an engine cross memeber and a trans cross member. I just took a look at the one for the SBC and it looks the same so I have a feeling it's just to clear the oil pan.

Vettezuki
01-31-2009, 10:35 PM
Get them from him if he'll give them to you. I'm not sure what we need to do yet to install the engine and trans but I'll look at that when the cage is done. When I looked at the kit that Grannys Speed was selling for the 2nd gen with a SBF it was just an engine cross memeber and a trans cross member. I just took a look at the one for the SBC and it looks the same so I have a feeling it's just to clear the oil pan.

He said he'd give them to us if he could make one pass. He's driven several 11 second cars, including his own V8 RX-7 and a fairly aggressive STi. Seems reasonable to me.

94cobra69ss396
01-31-2009, 10:37 PM
They are for the 2nd Gen car, right?

Vettezuki
01-31-2009, 10:39 PM
They are for the 2nd Gen car, right?

Yes.

94cobra69ss396
01-31-2009, 11:19 PM
I didn't take the time to take any pictures today as I was working so I ran out and took a few tonight of the completed work so that I could post up some.

Here they are.

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0138.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0139.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0140.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0141.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0142.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0143.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0144.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0145.JPG

Leedom
02-01-2009, 01:01 AM
Great job Ron.:bigthumbsup:

I still smile every time I see those Pep Boy pedal covers.:thumbs_up:

Vettezuki
02-01-2009, 01:48 AM
Great job Ron.:bigthumbsup:

I still smile every time I see those Pep Boy pedal covers.:thumbs_up:

I'll be taking those off. You know, weight savings.

94cobra69ss396
02-01-2009, 01:11 PM
Great job Ron.:bigthumbsup:

I still smile every time I see those Pep Boy pedal covers.:thumbs_up:

I think we should get these to replace them.

Neon pedals.
http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/harleynace_2040_75503573

And use this LED shift knob.

http://www2.streetglow.com/images/products/led/led_shift_knob_large.gif

enkeivette
02-01-2009, 02:34 PM
Gay or not you'll need to replace them with something, unless you like slipping off the clutch and grinding your toploader.

I bought some solid aluminum ones, threw away the mounting brackets and drilled them right into the factory pedals.

enkeivette
02-01-2009, 02:39 PM
I didn't take the time to take any pictures today as I was working so I ran out and took a few tonight of the completed work so that I could post up some.

Here they are.

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0138.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0139.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0140.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0141.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0142.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0143.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0144.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0145.JPG

You guys are amazing, this car is going to be a bad matha facka. I can already taste the goodness.

eric97srad
02-02-2009, 05:06 PM
Great job on the cage, Ron! Looks awesome!


I'm loving this idea guys! Can't wait to see it next year when I get home!
All I see here in Germany is BMW's on steelies... and the occasional Ford Ka.
:laugh:

94cobra69ss396
02-02-2009, 05:13 PM
Great job on the cage, Ron! Looks awesome!


I'm loving this idea guys! Can't wait to see it next year when I get home!
All I see here in Germany is BMW's on steelies... and the occasional Ford Ka.
:laugh:

Thanks. You know if you were here I'd make you help with it. Keep checking back on the progress when you can. I'm going to try and work on it again tonight after we put the girls to bed.

Be careful while on deployment and I'll talk to you later.

Vettezuki
02-02-2009, 05:27 PM
Great job on the cage, Ron! Looks awesome!


I'm loving this idea guys! Can't wait to see it next year when I get home!
All I see here in Germany is BMW's on steelies... and the occasional Ford Ka.
:laugh:

You must be in the South. I saw this ZO6 in Hamburg not long ago:

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Vettezuki/ZO6.jpg

Vettezuki
02-02-2009, 05:29 PM
Thanks. You know if you were here I'd make you help with it. Keep checking back on the progress when you can. I'm going to try and work on it again tonight after we put the girls to bed.

Be careful while on deployment and I'll talk to you later.

PS I talked to the guy here at work. I should get the K member and trans mount and even a drive shaft (for TKO -> TII, but ah well), this week.

94cobra69ss396
02-02-2009, 05:53 PM
PS I talked to the guy here at work. I should get the K member and trans mount and even a drive shaft (for TKO -> TII, but ah well), this week.

Cool. I'll need the oil pan as well. Do you know if Joe picked up the Fox body oil pickup with the pan or just the pan? I'm not sure if what's on there now will work with the dual sump pan. On my Cobra's engine the pump is in the front and the pickup extends the length of the engine to the back sump like this one.

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/mel-247s_w.jpg

Vettezuki
02-02-2009, 06:16 PM
Cool. I'll need the oil pan as well. Do you know if Joe picked up the Fox body oil pickup with the pan or just the pan? I'm not sure if what's on there now will work with the dual sump pan. On my Cobra's engine the pump is in the front and the pickup extends the length of the engine to the back sump like this one.

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/mel-247s_w.jpg

I believe Joe only got a pan, and I don't know if it's a rear sump or double sump. What's on now is a front sump, which I can't imagine working.

SeanPlunk
02-02-2009, 07:42 PM
You guys are amazing, this car is going to be a bad matha facka. I can already taste the goodness.

It's really a work of art Ron, good stuff :drink:

94cobra69ss396
02-02-2009, 08:27 PM
It's really a work of art Ron, good stuff :drink:

Thanks Sean. It's only my second time making a roll bar. When I did the Chevelle I fit all the bars but my buddy who's a welder by trade welded it. My first full fab and welding project was the Explorer and I think it turned out good. This roll bar is a lot easier then that was it's just time consuming. I have about 15 hours into it so far.

joedls
02-02-2009, 08:45 PM
Ron, that rollbar is looking fantastic!!! The pan I picked up is a double sump, but I didn't get a pickup. The current pickup on the engine will not work with this pan.

94cobra69ss396
02-02-2009, 09:10 PM
Ron, that rollbar is looking fantastic!!! The pan I picked up is a double sump, but I didn't get a pickup. The current pickup on the engine will not work with this pan.

Thanks Joe. No worries about the pickup Summit carries them for around $40. Do you know what year Mustang the pan came off of?

joedls
02-02-2009, 10:43 PM
Thanks Joe. No worries about the pickup Summit carries them for around $40. Do you know what year Mustang the pan came off of?

I think it was an 87 or 88.

94cobra69ss396
02-04-2009, 10:30 PM
The roll bar is finnished! :clap: Here are some pictures of the last door bar being made and installed as well as what it looks like completed. You can see how tight it was fitting the door bar by the seat. I took it in as close to the door as possible but I had to leave enough room for me to weld the plate in as well as room for the wire harness. I still need to clean it up and then primer it.

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0146.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0148.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0149.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0153.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0154.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0155.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0156.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0157.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0158.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0160.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0161.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0163.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0165.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0167.JPG

Vettezuki
02-04-2009, 10:57 PM
That is fantastic Ron. :creepy_thumbsup: I'm trying to get the K member and mounts this week. Adam and I still plan on coming this Saturday and can plan to stay and help for a while if you'd like some help with bar cleanup and priming.

SeanPlunk
02-04-2009, 11:19 PM
The roll bar is finnished! :clap: Here are some pictures of the last door bar being made and installed as well as what it looks like completed. You can see how tight it was fitting the door bar by the seat. I took it in as close to the door as possible but I had to leave enough room for me to weld the plate in as well as room for the wire harness. I still need to clean it up and then primer it.

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0146.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0148.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0149.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0153.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0154.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0155.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0156.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0157.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0158.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0160.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0161.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0163.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0165.JPG

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/medium/100_0167.JPG

Ron, it looks INCREDIBLE. Excellent work :bigthumbsup:

I'm excited to see it in person :hail:

Thank you so much for taking the time to do this.

94cobra69ss396
02-04-2009, 11:52 PM
That is fantastic Ron. :creepy_thumbsup: I'm trying to get the K member and mounts this week. Adam and I still plan on coming this Saturday and can plan to stay and help for a while if you'd like some help with bar cleanup and priming.

It's suppose to rain Saturday and my daughters have a birthday party at 1:30pm so I won't be able to work on it this Saturday. Are you still going to the Long Beach hot rod swap meet? If so, I could meet up with you there and pick up the parts. I need the cross members, oil pan and transmission now.

94cobra69ss396
02-05-2009, 12:00 AM
Ron, it looks INCREDIBLE. Excellent work :bigthumbsup:

I'm excited to see it in person :hail:

Thank you so much for taking the time to do this.

Your welcome. Just remember though that I'm not a professional fabricator or welder so it's not perfect looking. I'm even a little upset from todays work because I mismeasured for the passenger side door bar. No one will probably notice but the passenger side is 1/4 inch lower than the drivers side where I welded it to the main hoop. Like I said no one will notice but these are the little things that drive me nuts.

Vettezuki
02-05-2009, 12:31 AM
Your welcome. Just remember though that I'm not a professional fabricator or welder so it's not perfect looking. I'm even a little upset from todays work because I mismeasured for the passenger side door bar. No one will probably notice but the passenger side is 1/4 inch lower than the drivers side where I welded it to the main hoop. Like I said no one will notice but these are the little things that drive me nuts.

This project is about having fun, learning, and building skills. It looks safe and that's the main point.:bigthumbsup: We can make it pretty.

Vettezuki
02-05-2009, 02:16 AM
It's suppose to rain Saturday and my daughters have a birthday party at 1:30pm so I won't be able to work on it this Saturday. Are you still going to the Long Beach hot rod swap meet? If so, I could meet up with you there and pick up the parts. I need the cross members, oil pan and transmission now.

Yes. I'll be going to the swap meet. Joe will be there as well. We can meet up there.

enkeivette
02-06-2009, 03:43 AM
You guys are amazing. Remind me to bow next time I see you. Now scuff up that pretty metal and spray some primer before it rusts to shit. I won't count removing rust in tight impossible spots to be part of the body work. Especially when it's easily avoidable. Scuff it & spray it! Like yesterday!

94cobra69ss396
02-06-2009, 10:12 AM
You guys are amazing. Remind me to bow next time I see you. Now scuff up that pretty metal and spray some primer before it rusts to shit. I won't count removing rust in tight impossible spots to be part of the body work. Especially when it's easily avoidable. Scuff it & spray it! Like yesterday!

I will as soon as it quits raining. It won't rust that fast because it is on the inside of the car and is not getting wet. There is also a slight film of oil on it that helps prevent rust. That's why I have to clean it before I spray it.